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Re: [Wlug] Question about WLUG BBQ

by Stephen C. Daukas

At 01:04 AM 7/19/2002, Andy wrote: >On Friday 19 July 2002 12:37 am, Bill Smith wrote: > > > Question: If Theo does his lecture on Anti-Spam stuff, how will that be > > done at a BBQ? (of course, one could ask how ANY computer related > > subject, shy of wireless networking, could be done at a BBQ!) [snip] >Last time we had a BBQ, about a dozen people showed up, so something like the >aforementioned might work in that case. If, however, about 30 people showed >up(!), this idea probably wouldn't work so well. I'm not sure if Doug (WLUG >BBQ host) has a 60" projection screen TV that he could connect to his >laptop. >If we asked him, maybe he'd buy one for the occasion. :-) I have a projector, or I should say I have access to one, that I can plug a laptop into. Doug and I were trying to figure where to project and onto what, and we do have some ideas in mind (generated fog, multiple sprinklers, side of house, bed sheets, et al.). In fact, I think we should use the projector regardless of how many attend - it will be easier for all to see. However, I doubt either of us would mention this to his wife, so buying a 60"+ HDTV, for example, is not entirely ruled out! ;-) If there are any unforeseen issues, my place would be backup, and there is high-speed Internet at both locations, so that shouldn't be an issue (But Doug has a pool!). Given the appropriate technology, like building on the wireless stuff we did this week, it shouldn't matter where the meeting is held (distractions like food and drink aside!). Steve

July 19, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Question about WLUG BBQ

by Andy Stewart

On Friday 19 July 2002 6:26 am, Wesley Allen wrote: > Andy, > Did you guys set up WEP? I know it's "encryption-lite" but right now > I've only my wlan setup with mac address locking only because I can't > get wep to work at all. HI Wes, Chuck and I mentioned WEP but didn't actually configure it. I tried once at home and botched it. I'll be trying again soon. > > I actually had less trouble setting up wireless in linux than in > windows! I got it working, and at the meeting discovered that I had done it suboptimally. With help from Chuck and the meeting attendees, I was able to get my network configured optimally. Now, as soon as I plug in my wireless card, the network "magically" comes up on its own. Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

July 19, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Question about WLUG BBQ

by Wesley Allen

Hey, one more thing. My pc-card didn't come with a hard-case for storage, which kinda defeats the purpose because I'm not traveling with it if it's not in a protected case! Anyone know where I might pick one up? Wes On Fri, 2002-07-19 at 01:04, Andy Stewart wrote: > On Friday 19 July 2002 12:37 am, Bill Smith wrote: > > > Question: If Theo does his lecture on Anti-Spam stuff, how will that be > > done at a BBQ? (of course, one could ask how ANY computer related > > subject, shy of wireless networking, could be done at a BBQ!) > > Although I haven't asked Theo directly (but he's out there somewhere!), this > question did arise A few wireless laptops running VNC sessions from a host > which has Theo's slides (if he makes any) might do the trick. > > Last time we had a BBQ, about a dozen people showed up, so something like the > aforementioned might work in that case. If, however, about 30 people showed > up(!), this idea probably wouldn't work so well. I'm not sure if Doug (WLUG > BBQ host) has a 60" projection screen TV that he could connect to his laptop. > If we asked him, maybe he'd buy one for the occasion. :-) > > Later, > > Andy > > -- > Andy Stewart, Founder > Worcester Linux Users' Group > Worcester, MA USA > http://www.wlug.org > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

July 19, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Question about WLUG BBQ

by Wesley Allen

Andy, Did you guys set up WEP? I know it's "encryption-lite" but right now I've only my wlan setup with mac address locking only because I can't get wep to work at all. I actually had less trouble setting up wireless in linux than in windows! Speaking of "target practice," did any of you see that iMAC ad on e-reviews? The guy was at a target range, discussing the first iMAC and after saying how each feature was "not enough" he aimed and shot at it! Having dealt with first revision iMACS, I don't think I've ever laughed so hard! Wes On Thu, 2002-07-18 at 23:08, Andy Stewart wrote: > On Thursday 18 July 2002 10:26 pm, Wesley Allen wrote: > > I know I should just go to the site, but how was the last meeting? I > > was hoping to make this my first meeting but I ended up in a medical > > clinic with my 11 week old son instead (a 102.5 fever is NOT GOOD). > > He's doing well; I'm not. > > > > I'd like to come out, but I'd feel REALLY stupid coming to a BBQ for my > > first time; talk about bush league! > > HI Wes, > > I have 3 kids...I know what you mean, and one of them is only 7 weeks old. > The others are 6 yrs and 4 yrs. > > Come on over and meet WLUG and see if we're the kind of group that will > interest you. If we have the BBQ as stated, then you're more than welcome to > show up. If not, we'll just have our regular meeting in Kinnicutt Hall at > WPI, and you can still show up and be welcomed. :-) If you bring a > Microsoft box to the meeting for any purpose other than target practice, and > you won't be welcomed. Pretty simple, eh? :-) :-) > > I haven't posted anything on the WLUG website about our last meeting, but > here's how it went. I brought my new laptop with my wireless access point > and my wireless network card. Chuck Anderson brought his laptop, cat5 cable, > and his hub. We established a connection between the two computers and > showed the crowd how we did it. We did not prepare anything in advance, so > the 1 or 2 snags that we hit (and quickly fixed) ended up being more > realistic to the audience. Many folks commented that they liked this style > over the formal presentation style (which seldom says what to do when things > *don't* work). > > Later, > > Andy > > -- > Andy Stewart, Founder > Worcester Linux Users' Group > Worcester, MA USA > http://www.wlug.org > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

July 19, 2002

How to set "-dpi 100" for X with kdm

by Andy Stewart

HI all, When I start my SuSE 8.0 system in run level 3, it comes up in textmode. I log in and issue the startx command and KDE comes up. In my ~/.xserverrc file, I have put "-dpi 100" and the X server comes up in 100 dpi mode and I am a happy camper. Now, I think I'd like to have the graphical login from run level 5. kdm comes up with a nice screen, but the X server is only running at 75 dpi. I cannot figure out where to put the 100 dpi setting for this situation. It appears not to read the same files for the xdm/kdm method of starting the X server as it does when one types startx. So, how do I properly setup 100 dpi for kdm/xdm? Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

July 19, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Question about WLUG BBQ

by Andy Stewart

On Friday 19 July 2002 12:37 am, Bill Smith wrote: > Question: If Theo does his lecture on Anti-Spam stuff, how will that be > done at a BBQ? (of course, one could ask how ANY computer related > subject, shy of wireless networking, could be done at a BBQ!) Although I haven't asked Theo directly (but he's out there somewhere!), this question did arise A few wireless laptops running VNC sessions from a host which has Theo's slides (if he makes any) might do the trick. Last time we had a BBQ, about a dozen people showed up, so something like the aforementioned might work in that case. If, however, about 30 people showed up(!), this idea probably wouldn't work so well. I'm not sure if Doug (WLUG BBQ host) has a 60" projection screen TV that he could connect to his laptop. If we asked him, maybe he'd buy one for the occasion. :-) Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

July 19, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Question about WLUG BBQ

by Bill Smith

On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 23:08:07 -0400 Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)attbi.com> wrote: AS> Come on over and meet WLUG and see if we're the kind of group that AS> will interest you. If we have the BBQ as stated, then you're more AS> than welcome to show up. If not, we'll just have our regular AS> meeting in Kinnicutt Hall at WPI, and you can still show up and be AS> welcomed. :-) If you bring a Microsoft box to the meeting for any AS> purpose other than target practice, and you won't be welcomed. AS> Pretty simple, eh? :-) :-) Question: If Theo does his lecture on Anti-Spam stuff, how will that be done at a BBQ? (of course, one could ask how ANY computer related subject, shy of wireless networking, could be done at a BBQ!) AS> I haven't posted anything on the WLUG website about our last AS> meeting, but here's how it went. I brought my new laptop with my AS> wireless access point and my wireless network card. Chuck Anderson AS> brought his laptop, cat5 cable, and his hub. We established a AS> connection between the two computers and showed the crowd how we did AS> it. We did not prepare anything in advance, so the 1 or 2 snags AS> that we hit (and quickly fixed) ended up being more realistic to the AS> audience. Many folks commented that they liked this style over the AS> formal presentation style (which seldom says what to do when things AS> *don't* work). that sounds like a great meeting. i wish i had made it. i like the idea of showing as you go. i've learned a lot from mistakes. i learn more when the mistakes are made by someone ELSE! ;) ttyl... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com From a Marketing type: Don't give me any technical reason why something can't be done. If you really believed in the product, you'd make it work. * TAG! v3.0 *

July 19, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Question about WLUG BBQ

by Andy Stewart

On Thursday 18 July 2002 10:26 pm, Wesley Allen wrote: > I know I should just go to the site, but how was the last meeting? I > was hoping to make this my first meeting but I ended up in a medical > clinic with my 11 week old son instead (a 102.5 fever is NOT GOOD). > He's doing well; I'm not. > > I'd like to come out, but I'd feel REALLY stupid coming to a BBQ for my > first time; talk about bush league! HI Wes, I have 3 kids...I know what you mean, and one of them is only 7 weeks old. The others are 6 yrs and 4 yrs. Come on over and meet WLUG and see if we're the kind of group that will interest you. If we have the BBQ as stated, then you're more than welcome to show up. If not, we'll just have our regular meeting in Kinnicutt Hall at WPI, and you can still show up and be welcomed. :-) If you bring a Microsoft box to the meeting for any purpose other than target practice, and you won't be welcomed. Pretty simple, eh? :-) :-) I haven't posted anything on the WLUG website about our last meeting, but here's how it went. I brought my new laptop with my wireless access point and my wireless network card. Chuck Anderson brought his laptop, cat5 cable, and his hub. We established a connection between the two computers and showed the crowd how we did it. We did not prepare anything in advance, so the 1 or 2 snags that we hit (and quickly fixed) ended up being more realistic to the audience. Many folks commented that they liked this style over the formal presentation style (which seldom says what to do when things *don't* work). Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

July 19, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Question about WLUG BBQ

by Wesley Allen

I know I should just go to the site, but how was the last meeting? I was hoping to make this my first meeting but I ended up in a medical clinic with my 11 week old son instead (a 102.5 fever is NOT GOOD). He's doing well; I'm not. I'd like to come out, but I'd feel REALLY stupid coming to a BBQ for my first time; talk about bush league! Wes On Thu, 2002-07-18 at 21:02, Andy Stewart wrote: > > Hi WLUG, > > We had a suggestion last night over a few beers that perhaps we could conduct > our next Linux meeting in Shrewsbury over a few BBQd burgers, dogs, etc. > > What do people think of that idea? If this idea is accepted by enough folks, > it would be held on the same day and time as our next regularly scheduled > meeting. > > What do folks think of this proposal? > > Later, > > Andy > -- > Andy Stewart, Founder > Worcester Linux Users' Group > Worcester, MA USA > http://www.wlug.org > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

July 19, 2002

Re: [Wlug] writing to tape

by doug waud

Brad Noyes wrote: > > 512 byte chucks. How do you get the byte size of a chuck? For example, if we pipe Homic and/or Anderson to chucksize what would the output be? doug

July 19, 2002