March 2002 - WLUG - wlug.mailman3.com

Re: [Wlug] VMS & CLD's -- a blast from the past

by Scott Venier

http://www.accelr8.com/dcl.html A free and commercial DCL interpreter for linux. I'm nto a big VMS fan, so I don't know who close DCL is to CLD, but it's still more VMS like then bash. Scott On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > Many moons ago, I spent my callow youth as a VMS geek and was fairly > capable for a mechanical engineer. I got around the Command Language > Definition (CLD) compiler (I can't remember the name of the compiler) and > learned to appreciate it's flexibility and power. > > UNIX/linux, etc. has nothing (that I've seen) that even comes close. > > The reason I bring this up is that a friend of mine has written a spec for > an ambitious command line interpreter that has a bit of the flavor of the > VMS CLD's. This has led me to wonder if anyone has seen a port of > anything like the VMS CLD language to UNIX/linux. I know that the syntax > would have to be different because the VMS option "/" would interfere with > the *nix directory syntax. > > Anyone have any suggestions? > > And yes, I do remember punch cards, keypunches, paper tape, disk > drives as big as washing machines, etc. > > TIA, > Bill > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

March 20, 2002

VMS & CLD's -- a blast from the past

by Bill Mills-Curran

Many moons ago, I spent my callow youth as a VMS geek and was fairly capable for a mechanical engineer. I got around the Command Language Definition (CLD) compiler (I can't remember the name of the compiler) and learned to appreciate it's flexibility and power. UNIX/linux, etc. has nothing (that I've seen) that even comes close. The reason I bring this up is that a friend of mine has written a spec for an ambitious command line interpreter that has a bit of the flavor of the VMS CLD's. This has led me to wonder if anyone has seen a port of anything like the VMS CLD language to UNIX/linux. I know that the syntax would have to be different because the VMS option "/" would interfere with the *nix directory syntax. Anyone have any suggestions? And yes, I do remember punch cards, keypunches, paper tape, disk drives as big as washing machines, etc. TIA, Bill

March 20, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Charter and MSN....

by Wesley Allen

Good grief, What a GREAT idea! How on earth could it be implemented? Wes On Wed, 20 Mar 2002 12:55:04 -0500 "Stephen C. Daukas" <stephen(a)daukas.com> wrote: >At 12:24 PM 3/20/2002, John wrote: >>On Wednesday 20 March 2002 09:58, Doug wrote: >> >>> Obviously :-) , sharing the info with Redmond would >>>*HAVE* to >>> enhance your service experience! > >[...snip...} > >>Now I don't know if Earthlkink supplies the actual >>network for Charter? >>Or something else might envolved? > >Clearly, it is time for WLUG to get into the CLEC >business and establish a co-op DSL for all its members in >central Mass! I think it would be a fine way to spend >all that WLUG surplus money. > >;-) > >Steve > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

March 20, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Charter and MSN....

by Chuck Haines

Actually, even if you were joking about this, I think this would be a WONDERFUL idea. I know that when I move off campus I would like to find a good ISP and especially one that supports linux. On Wed, 2002-03-20 at 12:55, Stephen C. Daukas wrote: > At 12:24 PM 3/20/2002, John wrote: > >On Wednesday 20 March 2002 09:58, Doug wrote: > > > > > Obviously :-) , sharing the info with Redmond would *HAVE* to > > > enhance your service experience! > > [...snip...} > > >Now I don't know if Earthlkink supplies the actual network for Charter? > >Or something else might envolved? > > Clearly, it is time for WLUG to get into the CLEC business and establish a > co-op DSL for all its members in central Mass! I think it would be a fine > way to spend all that WLUG surplus money. > > ;-) > > Steve > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- --------------------------------------------- | Chuck Haines | AIM: CyberGrex | | GDC Webmaster | ICQ: 3707881 | | WPI Class of 2005 | MSN: CyberGrex | | chaines(a)wpi.edu | Yahoo: CyberGrex_27 | ---------------------------------------------

March 20, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Charter and MSN....

by Brian J. Conway

> Actually, even if you were joking about this, I think this would be a > WONDERFUL idea. I know that when I move off campus I would like to find > a good ISP and especially one that supports linux. Which brings us back once again to everyone's favorite SpeakEasy. Game over. -b

March 20, 2002

Looking for Linux Sublaptop

by desdinova＠soupforare.net

Hi all! I know this is probably an odd question to ask the list, but I was wondering if anyone has a (relatively) small laptop they'd like to sell? I'm primarily interested in the Libretto 'CT's, Mitsu Amitys, and Sony Picturebooks. I'd *love* to find a Thinkpad 235, but considering they were never sold here (well, sold here, repackaged, as the Ricoh Magio), I'm not keeping my hopes up. Any help is appreciated, Thanks, James KB1FJQ AIM: Sailor225 | yahoo: bond225

March 20, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Charter and MSN....

by Stephen C. Daukas

At 12:24 PM 3/20/2002, John wrote: >On Wednesday 20 March 2002 09:58, Doug wrote: > > > Obviously :-) , sharing the info with Redmond would *HAVE* to > > enhance your service experience! [...snip...} >Now I don't know if Earthlkink supplies the actual network for Charter? >Or something else might envolved? Clearly, it is time for WLUG to get into the CLEC business and establish a co-op DSL for all its members in central Mass! I think it would be a fine way to spend all that WLUG surplus money. ;-) Steve

March 20, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Charter and MSN....

by John Murphy

On Wednesday 20 March 2002 09:58, you wrote: > Obviously :-) , sharing the info with Redmond would *HAVE* to > enhance your service experience! > > Incidentally, I also found > "Click to find out more about Paul Allen's Wired World (TM) > just above that "Rules and Policies" link > so Charter and Micro$oft seem to be in bed together :-) > Life is full of surprises! > > doug I had known Paul Allen was a partner in Charter Cable. Was surprised when I read back over a year ago that earthlink had formed a partnership with Charter Communications. Actually I was orginally on Earthlink before I switched to Charter Cable. After I had Charter installed I called Earthlink to cancel my account, they said there was no need to. They said I could be connected to Charter Cable but still maintain my billing with Earthlink. At that time Charter in Worcester had just come online a few days. They did not have my area of Worcester on Earthlink's list yet. Rather then getting caught up between the two I just cancelled Earthlink. Now I don't know if Earthlkink supplies the actual network for Charter? Or something else might envolved? John -- "Two roads diverged in a wood, and I -- I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference." -- Robert Frost

March 20, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Charter and MSN....

by doug waud

Hi John Stoffel wrote: > So how do we check easily? I went to Charter's web site http://www.chartercom.com/ourstory/ourstory.asp and found a "Rules and Policies" link which took me to http://www.chartercom.com/site/rules.asp where they try to spell everything out. I could not see where passing your info onto Microslop clearly fitted in :-) I did find "Charter requests certain personal information at the time you subscribe to Charter Pipeline. Charter requests your name, address, telephone number and e-mail address. The personal information is used to manage your account for billing purposes. It is not shared with a third party, except in very limited circumstances such as is required by law or in order to enhance your service experience." Obviously :-) , sharing the info with Redmond would *HAVE* to enhance your service experience! Incidentally, I also found "Click to find out more about Paul Allen's Wired World (TM) just above that "Rules and Policies" link so Charter and Micro$oft seem to be in bed together :-) Life is full of surprises! doug

March 20, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Charter and MSN....

by Keith Wright

Please don't send HTML to the wlug list, especially not fugly HTML. > From: "Thomas Carey" <tcarey70(a)hotmail.com> > > <html><div style='background-color:'><DIV> > <P>Nice Soprano's/Godfather reference!<BR><BR></P></DIV> > <DIV></DIV> > <DIV></DIV>>From: Wesley Allen <WALLEN(a)CHARTER.NET> > <DIV></DIV>>Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org ... > <DIV></DIV></div><br clear=all><hr>MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: <a href='http://g.msn.com/1HM305401/15'>Click Here</a><br></html> Can't make me! -- -- Keith Wright <kwright(a)free-comp-shop.com> Programmer in Chief, Free Computer Shop <http://www.free-comp-shop.com> --- Food, Shelter, Source code. ---

March 20, 2002