March 2002 - WLUG - wlug.mailman3.com

FYI: Upcoming speakers at Softpro in Burlington

by Andy Stewart

Several O'Reilly authors--as well as Tim O'Reilly--will be speaking in the near future at Softpro Books in Burlington (details below). If you know of ways we could spread the word about these upcoming events, please let me know at marsee(a)oreilly.com. Books will be discounted during the event, and there will be door prizes. Open Invitation to SIGS and User Groups: Softpro is happy to host your group. They have space to accomodate up to 30 people in Burlington and up to 12 in Marlborough. Reserve a time by writing to events(a)softpro.com. Softpro Events: Tim O'Reilly on Emerging Tech Trends Wednesday, March 13--6:30 PM Tim will talk about emerging tech trends that O'Reilly & Associates is following, including bioinformatics, community wireless, web services, and the evolution of what he's calling "the internet operating system." For more information on Tim O'Reilly see: http://www.oreilly.com/oreilly/tim_bio.html Jesse Liberty on ASP v. ASP.NET Wednesday, March 20--6:30 PM The principal difference between ASP.NET and ASP is that the new programming model is more object-oriented and more event-driven. This will be illustrated by extracting records from a database and filling a DataGrid in a web form, coloring some records based on their content, and responding to the ItemDataBound event. Along the way Jesse will also explain how to create code-behind pages for web forms, how to retrieve data from a database and how to populate the DataGrid. Jesse Liberty is the author of "Programming ASP.NET" and "Programming C#" among others. To see more information on Jesse Liberty or the books he has written for O'Reilly, visit: http://www.oreillynet.com/cs/catalog/view/au/239?x-t=book.view Erik Ray on Perl and XML Wednesday, April 3--6:30-8:00 PM. Erik Ray is coauthor of the upcoming book "Perl & XML" (http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlxml/) XML is a text-based markup language that has taken the programming world by storm. More powerful than HTML yet less demanding than SGML, XML has proven itself to be flexible and resilient. XML is the perfect tool for formatting documents with even the smallest bit of complexity, from Web pages to legal contracts to books. However, XML has also proven itself to be indispensable for organizing and conveying other sorts of data as well, thus its central role in web services like SOAP and XML-RPC. As the Perl programming language was tailor-made for manipulating text, few people have disputed the fact that Perl and XML are perfectly suited for one another. The only question has been what's the best way to do it. Noel Rappin on Jython Wednesday, April 24--6:30-8:00 PM. Noel Rappin is coauthor of "Jython Essentials" (http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/jythoness/) Jython is an implementation of the Python programming language written in Java, allowing Python programs to integrate seamlessly with any Java code. The secret to Jython's popularity lies in the combination of Java's libraries and tools with Python's rapid development capabilities. "Jython Essentials" provides a solid introduction to the language, numerous examples of Jython/Java interaction, and valuable reference material on modules and libraries of use to Jython programmers. All events to take place at: Softpro Books 112 Mall Road Burlington MA 01803-5300 Phone: (781) 273-2919 http://www.softpro.com/events.html --Marsee Henon %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Marsee Henon O'Reilly & Associates 1005 Gravenstein Highway North Sebastopol, CA 95472 Phone 707-827-7103 (Direct) 707-829-0515, 800-998-9938 Fax 707-829-0104 marsee(a)oreilly.com http://ug.oreilly.com/ http://www.oreilly.com/ %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ------------------------------------------------------- -- Andy Stewart Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org

March 8, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Possible swap meet?

by doug waud

Andy Stewart wrote: > I have no problem with this as long as whatever arrives also leaves. Before this gets out of hand I'd like to raise the question of whether WLUG is really an appropriate locale for wife-swapping. doug

March 8, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Possible swap meet?

by Clint Moyer

One man's trash is another's treasure... On Thu, 07 Mar 2002 21:34:59 -0500 doug waud <douglas.waud(a)umassmed.edu> wrote: >Andy Stewart wrote: > >> I have no problem with this as long as whatever arrives >>also leaves. > >Before this gets out of hand I'd like to raise the >question of whether >WLUG is really an appropriate locale for wife-swapping. > >doug >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

March 8, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Possible swap meet?

by Andy Stewart

On Thursday 07 March 2002 09:34 pm, you wrote: > Andy Stewart wrote: > > I have no problem with this as long as whatever arrives also leaves. > > Before this gets out of hand I'd like to raise the question of whether > WLUG is really an appropriate locale for wife-swapping. > > doug > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug I repeat...as long as whatever arrives also leaves. :-) -- Andy Stewart Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org

March 8, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Possible swap meet?

by Wesley Allen

Well, I guess that would explain why the last meeting was on Valentine's day! Wes doug waud wrote: >Andy Stewart wrote: > > >>I have no problem with this as long as whatever arrives also leaves. >> > >Before this gets out of hand I'd like to raise the question of whether >WLUG is really an appropriate locale for wife-swapping. > >doug >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

March 8, 2002

Re: [Wlug] nvidia with X

by Brad Noyes

ahh good question. yes, i'm using 2.4.16. I installed the GLX libraries, and kernel modules using their tar files, not with rpms. On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 07:41:16PM -0500, Charles R. Anderson wrote: > Did you recompile the NVIDIA_kernel package for your own kernel? > > On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 07:31:09PM -0500, Brad Noyes wrote: > maitre> Thanks for the idea. I think that my monitor settings are okay. I should have mentioned this before, but X starts fine with the 'nv' driver loaded, but when i try to start X with the 'nvidia' driver loaded i get nothing. > > -- > Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ > PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 > Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886 > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

March 8, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Possible swap meet?

by Andy Stewart

On Thursday 07 March 2002 05:07 pm, you wrote: > As there is currently (AFAIK) no topic for the next > Wednesday's WLUG meeting, I'd like to propose the > possibility of a kinda sorta swap meet. I have no problem with this as long as whatever arrives also leaves. -- Andy Stewart Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org

March 8, 2002

Re: [Wlug] nvidia with X

by Charles R. Anderson

Did you recompile the NVIDIA_kernel package for your own kernel? On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 07:31:09PM -0500, Brad Noyes wrote: maitre> Thanks for the idea. I think that my monitor settings are okay. I should have mentioned this before, but X starts fine with the 'nv' driver loaded, but when i try to start X with the 'nvidia' driver loaded i get nothing. -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

March 8, 2002

Re: [Wlug] nvidia with X

by Brad Noyes

Thanks for the idea. I think that my monitor settings are okay. I should have mentioned this before, but X starts fine with the 'nv' driver loaded, but when i try to start X with the 'nvidia' driver loaded i get nothing. On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 06:34:13PM -0500, Adam @ Oak wrote: > You might be driving your screen incorrectly. If you have the manual to > your monitor set the Horizontal and Vertical refresh rates to those listed > in the monitor manual. Here is a snippet of the relevent section of > XF86Config-4: > > # ********************************************************************** > # Monitor section > # ********************************************************************** > > # Any number of monitor sections may be present > > Section "Monitor" > > Identifier "My Monitor" > > # HorizSync is in kHz unless units are specified. > # HorizSync may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a > # comma separated list of ranges of values. > # NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S > # USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS. > > HorizSync 31-96 > > # HorizSync 30-64 # multisync > # HorizSync 31.5, 35.2 # multiple fixed sync frequencies > # HorizSync 15-25, 30-50 # multiple ranges of sync frequencies > > # VertRefresh is in Hz unless units are specified. > # VertRefresh may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a > # comma separated list of ranges of values. > # NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S > # USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS. > > VertRefresh 50-160 > > EndSection > > If I don't have the specs I usually set the ranges low and then widen them > bit by bit. Note the low end of the ranges are standard for almost all > monitors so you shouldn't need to change them. This works because XFree86 > 4 is aware of standard VESA modes and can figure out what's best for the > monitor. > > > -Adam > > On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, Brad Noyes wrote: > > > Hi all i've been struggling with trying to get nvidia's drivers to > > work for my TNT PCI card. The install goes fine, but when i startx, i > > only get a blank screen. Looking at the Log, i don't see any fatal > > errors. When i kill X (from a remote machine using ssh) my screen > > displays a few dozen vertical lines, and no console. I'm not very > > fluent in X, perhaps someone can spot an error in the config, or log > > file. > > > > Thanks, --brad _______________________________________________ Wlug > > mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > A> > end > > end > > ___________________________________________________ > Adam S. Keck | > | > | "Got BSD?" > Waltham | > Ma, 02452 | > --------------------------------------------------- > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

March 8, 2002

Re: [Wlug] nvidia with X

by Adam ＠ Oak

You might be driving your screen incorrectly. If you have the manual to your monitor set the Horizontal and Vertical refresh rates to those listed in the monitor manual. Here is a snippet of the relevent section of XF86Config-4: # ********************************************************************** # Monitor section # ********************************************************************** # Any number of monitor sections may be present Section "Monitor" Identifier "My Monitor" # HorizSync is in kHz unless units are specified. # HorizSync may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a # comma separated list of ranges of values. # NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S # USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS. HorizSync 31-96 # HorizSync 30-64 # multisync # HorizSync 31.5, 35.2 # multiple fixed sync frequencies # HorizSync 15-25, 30-50 # multiple ranges of sync frequencies # VertRefresh is in Hz unless units are specified. # VertRefresh may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a # comma separated list of ranges of values. # NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S # USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS. VertRefresh 50-160 EndSection If I don't have the specs I usually set the ranges low and then widen them bit by bit. Note the low end of the ranges are standard for almost all monitors so you shouldn't need to change them. This works because XFree86 4 is aware of standard VESA modes and can figure out what's best for the monitor. -Adam On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, Brad Noyes wrote: > Hi all i've been struggling with trying to get nvidia's drivers to > work for my TNT PCI card. The install goes fine, but when i startx, i > only get a blank screen. Looking at the Log, i don't see any fatal > errors. When i kill X (from a remote machine using ssh) my screen > displays a few dozen vertical lines, and no console. I'm not very > fluent in X, perhaps someone can spot an error in the config, or log > file. > > Thanks, --brad _______________________________________________ Wlug > mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug A> end end ___________________________________________________ Adam S. Keck | | | "Got BSD?" Waltham | Ma, 02452 | ---------------------------------------------------

March 7, 2002