February 2002 - WLUG - wlug.mailman3.com

Re: [Wlug] memory

by Stephen C. Daukas

At 04:26 PM 2/26/2002, Bill wrote: >On Tue, 26 Feb 2002 16:22:17 -0500 >"Stephen C. Daukas" <stephen(a)daukas.com> wrote: > > > At 03:52 PM 2/26/2002, you wrote: > > >On Tue, 26 Feb 2002 08:24:05 -0500 > > >Gregory Avedissian <avedis(a)ma.ultranet.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Thanks, guys. Yeah, I remember $1/MB sounding good. I also > remember being > > > > able to fit a whole program into 1MB. Ah, those were the days... > > > > > >kids these days! when i was your age, the top-of-the-line system had 16k > > >RAM and four-color graphics!! And we were GRATEFUL! ;) > > > > Oh boy - here we go! > > > > "...up hill, both ways..." ;-) > > > > Steve > > > > P.S. - should I talk about using paper tape? > ><evil grin> i thought that would get a rise from those that are older >than me... <g> Don't know if I am older than you, but I've used some ancient stuff! >(for the record, the oldest system i worked on regularly was a DEC >PDP-11/70 running RSTS/E... we used Holerith cards and mag tape for >everything except programming [had dumb terminals for that], had disc >packs, and one 8" floppy drive...) My oldest was a "ruggedized" PDP-11/20 used by the US Navy (SSN 688 class subs). Other than that, I have worked on "newer" stuff that we designed for the Military, but mag tape was still a requirement - the ocean can get rough enough that you have to have a backup media for those days you just can't risk a head-crash! Steve

Feb. 26, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Linux for DEC Alpha 400 4/233 ??

by Scott Venier

Most any alpha linux distribution should work on that machine. I've seen redhat 7.1 on an alphastation 250, which is a very similar machine. Debian and SuSE should be fine too. Scott On Tue, 26 Feb 2002, Stephen C. Daukas wrote: > > I remember from one of the more recent WLUGs that some information about > Linux on Alpha was presented. I was at the Mass Academy for Math & Science > yesterday, and they have several DEC Alpha 400 4/233 machines and they > asked me if there was a Linux that might run on them. Not being a DEC kind > of guy, I couldn't answer... > > Anyone care to offer some information regarding this? > > Thanks in advance! > > Steve > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Feb. 26, 2002

RE: [Wlug] Linux for DEC Alpha 400 4/233 ??

by Evans, Robert

I think Red Hat and Mandrake both provide distributions for Alpha. I'm sure there are others too since Linus used an Alpha as a target during kernel 2.0 development. Robert N. Evans (Ex-DEC Guy) Work: Stratus Technologies N2-SWE -----Original Message----- From: Stephen C. Daukas [mailto:stephen@daukas.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 4:27 PM To: wlug(a)wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] Linux for DEC Alpha 400 4/233 ?? I remember from one of the more recent WLUGs that some information about Linux on Alpha was presented. I was at the Mass Academy for Math & Science yesterday, and they have several DEC Alpha 400 4/233 machines and they asked me if there was a Linux that might run on them. Not being a DEC kind of guy, I couldn't answer... Anyone care to offer some information regarding this? Thanks in advance! Steve _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Feb. 26, 2002

Linux for DEC Alpha 400 4/233 ??

by Stephen C. Daukas

I remember from one of the more recent WLUGs that some information about Linux on Alpha was presented. I was at the Mass Academy for Math & Science yesterday, and they have several DEC Alpha 400 4/233 machines and they asked me if there was a Linux that might run on them. Not being a DEC kind of guy, I couldn't answer... Anyone care to offer some information regarding this? Thanks in advance! Steve

Feb. 26, 2002

Re: [Wlug] memory

by Bill Smith

On Tue, 26 Feb 2002 16:22:17 -0500 "Stephen C. Daukas" <stephen(a)daukas.com> wrote: > At 03:52 PM 2/26/2002, you wrote: > >On Tue, 26 Feb 2002 08:24:05 -0500 > >Gregory Avedissian <avedis(a)ma.ultranet.com> wrote: > > > > > Thanks, guys. Yeah, I remember $1/MB sounding good. I also remember being > > > able to fit a whole program into 1MB. Ah, those were the days... > > > >kids these days! when i was your age, the top-of-the-line system had 16k > >RAM and four-color graphics!! And we were GRATEFUL! ;) > > Oh boy - here we go! > > "...up hill, both ways..." ;-) > > Steve > > P.S. - should I talk about using paper tape? <evil grin> i thought that would get a rise from those that are older than me... <g> (for the record, the oldest system i worked on regularly was a DEC PDP-11/70 running RSTS/E... we used Holerith cards and mag tape for everything except programming [had dumb terminals for that], had disc packs, and one 8" floppy drive...) -- +--------------------------------------------------------------+ | William Smith wsmith at chezsmith dot com | | Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com | +--------------------------------------------------------------+ | Therapy is expensive. Popping bubblewrap | | is cheap. You choose. | | * TAG! v2.2 * | +--------------------------------------------------------------+

Feb. 26, 2002

Re: [Wlug] memory

by Stephen C. Daukas

At 03:52 PM 2/26/2002, you wrote: >On Tue, 26 Feb 2002 08:24:05 -0500 >Gregory Avedissian <avedis(a)ma.ultranet.com> wrote: > > > Thanks, guys. Yeah, I remember $1/MB sounding good. I also remember being > > able to fit a whole program into 1MB. Ah, those were the days... > >kids these days! when i was your age, the top-of-the-line system had 16k >RAM and four-color graphics!! And we were GRATEFUL! ;) Oh boy - here we go! "...up hill, both ways..." ;-) Steve P.S. - should I talk about using paper tape?

Feb. 26, 2002

Re: [Wlug] memory

by Bill Smith

On Tue, 26 Feb 2002 08:24:05 -0500 Gregory Avedissian <avedis(a)ma.ultranet.com> wrote: > Thanks, guys. Yeah, I remember $1/MB sounding good. I also remember being > able to fit a whole program into 1MB. Ah, those were the days... kids these days! when i was your age, the top-of-the-line system had 16k RAM and four-color graphics!! And we were GRATEFUL! ;) > If you folks think memory prices are going to go higher, then maybe I better > go for it now. Thanks. have you looked on pricewatch (www.pricewatch.com)? -- +--------------------------------------------------------------+ | William Smith wsmith at chezsmith dot com | | Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com | +--------------------------------------------------------------+ | I'm weird, but around here it's barely noticeable. | | * TAG! v2.2 * | +--------------------------------------------------------------+

Feb. 26, 2002

Re: [Wlug] memory

by Gregory Avedissian

Thanks, guys. Yeah, I remember $1/MB sounding good. I also remember being able to fit a whole program into 1MB. Ah, those were the days... If you folks think memory prices are going to go higher, then maybe I better go for it now. Thanks. Greg On Monday 25 February 2002 10:45, Jeremy wrote: > http://www.crucial.com is even a few bucks cheaper. > Never had a problem ordering from Crucial either. > > --- Adam Keck <akeck(a)mathworks.com> wrote: > > http://www.thechipmerchant.com/19610-0.html > > > > Stop yer moaning! ;-) Memory is still well below the 1/mb mark we > > thought was insanely low 1 and 1/2 years ago. I thought for sure it > > would spike above that level by now given some of the Dramurai's > > willingness to close factories. It may very well, yet... I will look > > through my parts bin for you though :). > > > > -Adam > > > > On Mon, 25 Feb 2002, Gregory Avedissian wrote: > > > Since we were just on the subject of hardware, I was wondering if > > > anyone > > > > had > > > > > any PC133 memory that they wanted to part with. I have a new box > > > that's > > > > half > > > > > built and would like 256MB, but I'd settle for 64 just to get it going. > > > I'm > > > > > > stalling on the memory, hoping the price will come back down. (it > > > doubled right after christmas). Thanks. > > > > > > Greg > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wlug mailing list > > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > "lingua machinationis creo, ergo sum" > > _____________________________________________ > > Adam Keck The Mathworks > > 508-647-7298 Natick, Ma > > www.mathworks.com > > FreeNIX/Backup/Unix Administrator > > _____________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > ===== > - > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games > http://sports.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Feb. 26, 2002

Re: ssh/virtual terminal "challenge"

by Bill Mills-Curran

Found it (RTFM)! Just add: -o "StrictHostKeyChecking no" to the command line. Bill On Mon, 25 Feb 2002, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: > Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 13:10:52 -0500 (EST) > From: Bill Mills-Curran <subssn594(a)charter.net> > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Subject: ssh/virtual terminal "challenge" > > I have a situation where I'd like to run ssh from a script to connect > to a different machine. In some cases, the machine's IP will have > changed, due to DHCP. Is there a way I can either: > > 1. make ssh accept the new site without supplying the "yes" from the > keyboard. > > or > > 2. Somehow set up a controlling terminal or virtual terminal to > provide the "yes" that ssh requires? > > I have not been able to get something like "openvt" to work. I have > no experience with these things. > > TIA, > Bill > >

Feb. 25, 2002

Re: [Wlug] PalmOS download

by Stephen C. Daukas

Hi Rick! Thanks, but I don't have 3.5.x, I'm at rev 3.3. This page says it is recommended only for 3.5.x. Sorry, I should have been more explicit. Steve At 08:41 PM 2/24/2002, you wrote: > > Anyone know where I can get Palm OS version >3.5.3 for my Palm III? > >http://www.palm.com/support/downloads/update3 >53.html >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Feb. 25, 2002