December 2002 - WLUG - wlug.mailman3.com

Re: [Wlug] Meeting Ideas...

by Bill Smith

On Tue, 10 Dec 2002 09:09:29 -0500 "Marc Hughes" <mhughes(a)wpidalamar.com> wrote: MH> Since the ipaq install was described as a mini-demo, perhaps a PDA MH> night? MH> IPaqs, zauruses, palms, whatever else. MH> MH> I'd suggest... MH> How to install linux on them. (including explanation of distros, and MH> package formats) MH> How to sync them with a linux desktop. MH> How to sync the linux pda with a windows desktop. MH> Other cool stuff? MH> war-walking? well, i'm looking to see what sort of Linux distro i can get to install on my Palm IIIx... there used to be a few, but any that i found either didn't exist anymore or (in one case) they hang upon installation, even when they claim to install on my handheld.... 8\ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com "Veal-Fattening Pen: Small, cramped office workstations built of fabric-covered disassemblable wall partitions and inhabited by junior staff members. Named after the small preslaughter cubicles used by the cattle industry." -- Douglas Coupland, "Generation X: Tales for an Accelerated Culture" * TAG! v3.1 *

Dec. 12, 2002

REMINDER: WLUG Meeting

by Andy Stewart

HI everybody, The next WLUG meeting will be held on Thursday, Dec. 12th at 7:00 PM in Kinnicutt Hall on the WPI campus in Worcester. At this meeting, we'll informally discuss the Linux news and events which took place over the year 2002. Let's take a look at how far Linux has come in the past year, and muse over where it will head during the next year. Look back through your old magazines, e-mails, and newsgroups and let's see how many different things we can remember about this past year and Linux. We will also hold a brainstorming session to get more details about upcoming WLUG meetings for the year 2003. After the meeting, we'll make our monthly pilgrimage to the Boynton Restaurant for some pizza and beer as we celebrate Linux and the holidays together. See ya later! Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

Dec. 11, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Upcoming meetings

by doug waud

Hi all > Chips and Dip? ;-) > > You know, this triggered an idea. I am not going to ask for details there! :-) > Every year, before the end of the calendar year, > you see these TV shows which summarize the news from the past 12 > months. What about Linux news from this year that could be summarized > at the meeting? OK, I'm grabbing at straws here......maybe I'll just stick > with the chips and dip. Given the quasi-fiasco with the last meeting where no topic was announced, I think the WLUG site should have *some* topic. I suggest "The year in Linux" as a default (following up on your above musings). It would be better than no topic at all and is broad enougth that we should be able to kindle some sort of fire with it. Summary: get a topic, anything reasonable, up on the web page asap. :-) doug

Dec. 11, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Upcoming meetings

by Stephen C. Daukas

I agree. Put up the topic, as Doug suggested, and run with it. I should think a quick run through the year's Linux Journal, and others, would make for a good framework for the evening. Of course, anyone could always add what they did/know/heard about, etc... doug waud wrote: > Hi all > >> Chips and Dip? ;-) >> >> You know, this triggered an idea. > > > I am not going to ask for details there! :-) > >> Every year, before the end of the calendar year, >> you see these TV shows which summarize the news from the past 12 >> months. What about Linux news from this year that could be >> summarized at the meeting? OK, I'm grabbing at straws >> here......maybe I'll just stick with the chips and dip. > > > Given the quasi-fiasco with the last meeting where no topic > was announced, I think the WLUG site should have *some* > topic. I suggest "The year in Linux" as a default > (following up on your above musings). It would be > better than no topic at all and is broad enougth > that we should be able to kindle some sort of > fire with it. > > Summary: get a topic, anything reasonable, up on > the web page asap. :-) >

Dec. 11, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Upcoming meetings

by Wes Allen

Or a kernel demo, anyone running a 2.5 kernel? Wes On Wednesday 11 December 2002 8:20 am, Andy Stewart wrote: > On Wednesday 11 December 2002 7:37 am, Stephen C. Daukas wrote: > > Andy Stewart wrote: > > >HI everybody, > > > > [snip] > > > > >Given all of the above, that still leaves our December meeting open. > > > What do folks think we can pull together in the next few days? > > > > Chips and Dip? ;-) > > You know, this triggered an idea. Every year, before the end of the > calendar year, you see these TV shows which summarize the news from the > past 12 months. What about Linux news from this year that could be > summarized at the meeting? OK, I'm grabbing at straws here......maybe I'll > just stick with the chips and dip. > > Later, > > Andy -- ------ This message may be signed using GPG, for my public key please send me a message with "Key Request" in the subject line.

Dec. 11, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Upcoming meetings

by Andy Stewart

On Wednesday 11 December 2002 7:37 am, Stephen C. Daukas wrote: > Andy Stewart wrote: > >HI everybody, > > [snip] > > >Given all of the above, that still leaves our December meeting open. What > > do folks think we can pull together in the next few days? > > Chips and Dip? ;-) You know, this triggered an idea. Every year, before the end of the calendar year, you see these TV shows which summarize the news from the past 12 months. What about Linux news from this year that could be summarized at the meeting? OK, I'm grabbing at straws here......maybe I'll just stick with the chips and dip. Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

Dec. 11, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Upcoming meetings

by Stephen C. Daukas

Andy Stewart wrote: >HI everybody, > [snip] >Given all of the above, that still leaves our December meeting open. What do >folks think we can pull together in the next few days? > Chips and Dip? ;-)

Dec. 11, 2002

Upcoming meetings

by Andy Stewart

HI everybody, I like the idea of having a handhelds night, be they Zaurus, IPAQ, Palm, etc. I also would agree that January might be a good time for such a meeting. There seems to be a general consensus on this, so I'd like to propose that the January meeting will be the "Handhelds and Linux" meeting. I'll volunteer to bring my Palm IIIx and show how to sync it with Linux. Admittedly, that's not as cool as running Linux on the handheld itself, but hey, its one more thing to keep me away from Windows! I would like to hear from other volunteers who plan to bring their handheld devices so I can pencil you in. When I announce the meeting, I'd like to be able to say what types of devices will be discussed and demonstrated. That type of detail will draw people to the meeting. Note that Jon 'Maddog' Hall is scheduled to be our speaker at the February meeting. Maddog has come to WLUG meetings in the past and is an awesome speaker. You definitely do NOT want to miss this meeting! If we advertise this around the WPI campus and on the net, I don't see why we couldn't have a big crowd for this meeting. With regard to a possible LAN party, its not clear to me that we can pull it together just a few days before the meeting date (or am I wrong?), so should we plan on this for the March meeting? I propose that with all of the network gear and people's computers, we could accomodate the computer gamers as well as those who want security checks (nessus and the like), or even those who have never configured networking before and would like to give it a try. Given all of the above, that still leaves our December meeting open. What do folks think we can pull together in the next few days? Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

Dec. 11, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Meeting Ideas...

by Wes Allen

On Tuesday 10 December 2002 5:52 pm, brad wrote: > On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 01:17:53PM -0500, Brett Russ wrote: > > brad wrote: > > >Are there any other ipaq owners which would like to have this done? > > These are all good questions. > > > Yeah, I would if you tell me I can reliably sync between Linux and > > Windows > > I believe this is possible. I will look into specifics. > > > and there are capable contact/task/calendar/etc apps that work > > well on the ipaq platform. > > Calendars are pretty simple to display on different platforms with the > ical file format. Good... > > Task, contacts ... i'll have to look this up. I believe contacts can > sync okay with outlook. Again i'll look into this. How about evolution? And I'm surprised that aethera isn't slated to sync with it's own apps.... > > > How about sound recording/playback > > functionality? > > This sort of works, there's development beening done in this area. ogg playback? Using theKompany's player? Maybe? > > > What LAN/WLAN cards are supported? > > Yes, there are a few that are supported. I don't know this ones, i'll > look for a hardware compat list. I'd like to see the list, if you find a decent url.... > > > These are the worries I have. I will go to handhelds.org and read up a > > bit but sometimes experienced users find that the info read on a site is > > not as rosy IRL. > > Yeah, these are all logical concerns. For some people converting to > linux doesn't make sence. There are a few downfalls from linux on the > ipaq, off the top of head. > - no pocket word, excel, outlook etc. Opie's stuff is good, and theKompany's programs should work on an iPAQ, or so they say... > - no natural handwritting recognition (only character recognition, like > the palm) I though qtopia had trainable letter recognition? And I don't like handwriting recognition, mostly because I've got terrible handwriting.... > - Hardware is less supported. > > > thanks & I would like to start attending meetings also, > > Perhaps after i give a little demonstration, you'll have a better idea > whether converting your ipaq is for you. > > --brad I'd sugguest two computers doing the setup.... one with a serial connection to do the bootloader and initial install (if there's a couple of iPAQs) and another with usb networking setup do polish it off. How hard is it to set up usb networking? Wes > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- ------ This message may be signed using GPG, for my public key please send me a message with "Key Request" in the subject line.

Dec. 10, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Meeting Ideas...

by brad

On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 01:17:53PM -0500, Brett Russ wrote: > brad wrote: > >Are there any other ipaq owners which would like to have this done? > These are all good questions. > Yeah, I would if you tell me I can reliably sync between Linux and > Windows I believe this is possible. I will look into specifics. > and there are capable contact/task/calendar/etc apps that work > well on the ipaq platform. Calendars are pretty simple to display on different platforms with the ical file format. Task, contacts ... i'll have to look this up. I believe contacts can sync okay with outlook. Again i'll look into this. > How about sound recording/playback > functionality? This sort of works, there's development beening done in this area. > What LAN/WLAN cards are supported? Yes, there are a few that are supported. I don't know this ones, i'll look for a hardware compat list. > These are the worries I have. I will go to handhelds.org and read up a > bit but sometimes experienced users find that the info read on a site is > not as rosy IRL. Yeah, these are all logical concerns. For some people converting to linux doesn't make sence. There are a few downfalls from linux on the ipaq, off the top of head. - no pocket word, excel, outlook etc. - no natural handwritting recognition (only character recognition, like the palm) - Hardware is less supported. > thanks & I would like to start attending meetings also, Perhaps after i give a little demonstration, you'll have a better idea whether converting your ipaq is for you. --brad

Dec. 10, 2002