November 2002 - WLUG - wlug.mailman3.com

Re: [Wlug] 2 *&@#&% megabyte message

by Bill Smith

On Sat, 2 Nov 2002 02:26:16 -0500 (EST) Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)zoop.org> wrote: KH> It's your own fault for having a crappy dialup and not getting KH> message headers before downloading the whole thing :) so KH> apparently ANYONE could send you a large file and cause the same KH> problem. (1) not everyone can afford Broadband or DSL. i don't even have CABLE, for crying out loud! (2) i'm not as quich to react as our friend. if i were a betting man, i'd wager my connection is slower than his (mine is a whopping 31.2kbps 'cause i have dirty (old?) lines and my lease says that i have to foot the bill to clean them if i want better), but i waited to see who was the culprit. seeing that it was Andy, i figured that if anyone should have been justified in posting something that insanely huge, it should be him. <shrug> KH> When i moved into this apartment one thing I made sure before i KH> signed the lease was that i could get broadband with a static IP for KH> my box :) maybe for me when i'm working again, but not before. KH> Sorry I just can't relate to only having a dialup.. I can't KH> imagine the pain you must have :) if you would like, i can put things in perspective for you.... i've been playing with dial-ups since '90... my first modem when at a nice quick 1200 baud. :) (yeah, i know some of you Old Timers used to communicate by tapping in Morse on the phone receiver.... <g>) to ME, 56k is nice (been there, before i moved to this "commonwealth"), but i'm not in a position to be complaining too much. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com If fifty million people say a foolish thing, it's still a foolish thing." -- Anatole France * TAG! v3.1 *

Nov. 2, 2002

Re: [Wlug] 2 goddamn megabyte message

by Karl

the IMAP protocol works great for me. Gregory Avedissian wrote: > > > Karl Hiramoto wrote: > >> It's your own fault for having a crappy dialup and not getting >> message headers before downloading the whole thing :) so apparently >> ANYONE could send you a large file and cause the same problem. >> > > What program will let you download the headers before downloading the > message? > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- €º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto €º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø You are absolute plate-glass. I see to the very back of your mind. -- Sherlock Holmes

Nov. 2, 2002

Re: [Wlug] DNS Resolve from the Internet

by Peter Gutowski

> Hello: > > Please help me get this straight. I am confused. I > have a dnscache running at home on a DMZ network. I > would like to know if I can have friends on other > networks (in the Internet) to use my server as their > resolver server? > Should be easily possible. > I have a firewall in place but, I'm directing all the > udp traffic to port 53 to my dns-server; also my > dnscache server is accepting connections from those > networks ip's. Prodvided neither you your ISP blocks the port and you IP address doesn't change, should be possible. > > Can I do this or do I need to register ($$$$$) a the > dns-server? I've never experienced a charge to setting up a service on server. If the server is Primary for a domain, you will need to register it, but that's usually part of the domain registration fee. -PG -- Peter Gutowski - peter(a)linuxchamps.com - phone: (413)531-0123

Nov. 2, 2002

Re: [Wlug] DNS Resolve from the Internet

by Peter Gutowski

> Hello: > > Please help me get this straight. I am confused. I > have a dnscache running at home on a DMZ network. I > would like to know if I can have friends on other > networks (in the Internet) to use my server as their > resolver server? > Provided neither you nor your service provider are blocking access to that port it should be easily possible. > I have a firewall in place but, I'm directing all the > udp traffic to port 53 to my dns-server; also my > dnscache server is accepting connections from those > networks ip's. > > Can I do this or do I need to register ($$$$$) a the > dns-server? > I've set up a few official and several ad hoc name servers and have never needed to do much that was hardly official. In the case of registering a domain, you do need to provide the IP addresses of registered hosts, but there was not a specific charge from network solutions, and they seem to be great ones for finding ways of charging you for things. -PG -- Peter Gutowski - peter(a)linuxchamps.com - phone: (413)531-0123

Nov. 2, 2002

Re: [Wlug] 2 goddamn megabyte message

by Gregory Avedissian

Karl Hiramoto wrote: > It's your own fault for having a crappy dialup and not getting message > headers before downloading the whole thing :) so apparently ANYONE > could send you a large file and cause the same problem. > What program will let you download the headers before downloading the message?

Nov. 2, 2002

Re: [Wlug] 2 goddamn megabyte message

by Karl Hiramoto

It's your own fault for having a crappy dialup and not getting message headers before downloading the whole thing :) so apparently ANYONE could send you a large file and cause the same problem. When i moved into this apartment one thing I made sure before i signed the lease was that i could get broadband with a static IP for my box :) Sorry I just can't relate to only having a dialup.. I can't imagine the pain you must have :) On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, Andy Stewart wrote: > On Friday 01 November 2002 10:41 pm, Keith Wright wrote: > > Somebody just sent a 2 Megabyte message to this > > mailing list, I think. I don't even know who sent > > it, because I got tired of watching it download > > and telnet'ed into my pop server to delete it > > totally unread. Since I don't know who you are > > you are safe (from me at least) if you never do > > anything like that again. > > I did it. Got a problem? Take it up with me and not the list, and please > keep your profanity to yourself. > > > > > Can the mailing list software be configured to > > throw any message more than, say, a generous > > 200K, into /dev/null and reply to the sender > > with a polite message about his mother and > > a baboon? > > > > Let's leave my mother out of this, shall we? > > The mailing list software sent my e-mail to the WLUG mailing list admin due to > its size. I believe the limit is set to 20 Kbytes. The WLUG mailing list > admin obviously approved it for posting and sent it on its way. I am not the > WLUG mailing list admin (I suspect it is either Chuck or Frank). > > > Thank you very much. > > > > -- Keith > > You're quite welcome! I'm happy to keep people informed about important > events in the Linux world, such as the Enterprise Linux Forum being held in > Boston. Ah, but you'd have known that if you hadn't deleted a partially > downloaded e-mail message. > > Now, to the more polite members of WLUG, my apologies if the aforementioned > e-mail has caused you some grief. I'll endeavor to use more care in the > future. > > Later, > > Andy > -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø I've been on this lonely road so long, Does anybody know where it goes, I remember last time the signs pointed home, A month ago. -- Carpenters, "Road Ode"

Nov. 2, 2002

Re: [Wlug] 2 goddamn megabyte message

by Keith Wright

> From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)attbi.com> > > On Friday 01 November 2002 10:41 pm, Keith Wright wrote: > > Somebody just sent a 2 Megabyte message to this > > mailing list, I think. I don't even know who sent > > it, because I got tired of watching it download > > I did it. Got a problem? Take it up with me and not the list, > and please keep your profanity to yourself. Well, you sent this message to the list, so I guess you want to continue the discussion on the list. As I said, I did not know you did it. I am surprised to say the least. > Let's leave my mother out of this, shall we? OK. > The mailing list software sent my e-mail to the WLUG mailing > list admin due to its size. I believe the limit is set to 20 > Kbytes. A very reasonable limit. > The WLUG mailing list admin obviously approved it for posting > and sent it on its way. I am not the WLUG mailing list admin > (I suspect it is either Chuck or Frank). Even more surprised. > You're quite welcome! I'm happy to keep people informed about > important events in the Linux world, such as the Enterprise > Linux Forum being held in Boston. That seems well under 20K. > Ah, but you'd have known that if you hadn't deleted a partially > downloaded e-mail message. Actually I did know, because Karl Hiramoto sent a message that quoted everything needful to know. > Now, to the more polite members of WLUG, my apologies if the > aforementioned e-mail has caused you some grief. I'll endeavor > to use more care in the future. I'm going to sleep now. -- Keith

Nov. 2, 2002

RE: [Wlug] 2 goddamn megabyte message

by Mike Peckar

Geepers, are there still dialuppers alive today that haven't set up there own (damned) rules? The roaring naughts are the age of rules and policies, baby - get with the program as they say. Lesse, lemme recount a few -- if an email contains less than 1m, send it to my watch; if its an mpeg or graphics file, send it to my media server and let it figure it out; if its anything microsoft, send it my handheld - its probably work related -- and if its got the words: sex, drugs, or rock and roll, send it to all of them, baby, cause I'm a wild and crazy guy with 'lectronic stuff, man, and I'm comin' to yer town ---- --so betta watch out, o.k.? and btb, election day is pretty much here right now, so vote for ME, (goddammit), because (I swear,) if you don't, we'll all loose... -----Original Message----- From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org]On Behalf Of Andy Stewart Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 11:09 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] 2 goddamn megabyte message On Friday 01 November 2002 10:41 pm, Keith Wright wrote: > Somebody just sent a 2 Megabyte message to this > mailing list, I think. I don't even know who sent > it, because I got tired of watching it download > and telnet'ed into my pop server to delete it > totally unread. Since I don't know who you are > you are safe (from me at least) if you never do > anything like that again. I did it. Got a problem? Take it up with me and not the list, and please keep your profanity to yourself. > > Can the mailing list software be configured to > throw any message more than, say, a generous > 200K, into /dev/null and reply to the sender > with a polite message about his mother and > a baboon? > Let's leave my mother out of this, shall we? The mailing list software sent my e-mail to the WLUG mailing list admin due to its size. I believe the limit is set to 20 Kbytes. The WLUG mailing list admin obviously approved it for posting and sent it on its way. I am not the WLUG mailing list admin (I suspect it is either Chuck or Frank). > Thank you very much. > > -- Keith You're quite welcome! I'm happy to keep people informed about important events in the Linux world, such as the Enterprise Linux Forum being held in Boston. Ah, but you'd have known that if you hadn't deleted a partially downloaded e-mail message. Now, to the more polite members of WLUG, my apologies if the aforementioned e-mail has caused you some grief. I'll endeavor to use more care in the future. Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Nov. 2, 2002

Re: [Wlug] 2 goddamn megabyte message

by Andy Stewart

On Friday 01 November 2002 10:41 pm, Keith Wright wrote: > Somebody just sent a 2 Megabyte message to this > mailing list, I think. I don't even know who sent > it, because I got tired of watching it download > and telnet'ed into my pop server to delete it > totally unread. Since I don't know who you are > you are safe (from me at least) if you never do > anything like that again. I did it. Got a problem? Take it up with me and not the list, and please keep your profanity to yourself. > > Can the mailing list software be configured to > throw any message more than, say, a generous > 200K, into /dev/null and reply to the sender > with a polite message about his mother and > a baboon? > Let's leave my mother out of this, shall we? The mailing list software sent my e-mail to the WLUG mailing list admin due to its size. I believe the limit is set to 20 Kbytes. The WLUG mailing list admin obviously approved it for posting and sent it on its way. I am not the WLUG mailing list admin (I suspect it is either Chuck or Frank). > Thank you very much. > > -- Keith You're quite welcome! I'm happy to keep people informed about important events in the Linux world, such as the Enterprise Linux Forum being held in Boston. Ah, but you'd have known that if you hadn't deleted a partially downloaded e-mail message. Now, to the more polite members of WLUG, my apologies if the aforementioned e-mail has caused you some grief. I'll endeavor to use more care in the future. Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

Nov. 2, 2002

2 goddamn megabyte message

by Keith Wright

Somebody just sent a 2 Megabyte message to this mailing list, I think. I don't even know who sent it, because I got tired of watching it download and telnet'ed into my pop server to delete it totally unread. Since I don't know who you are you are safe (from me at least) if you never do anything like that again. Can the mailing list software be configured to throw any message more than, say, a generous 200K, into /dev/null and reply to the sender with a polite message about his mother and a baboon? Thank you very much. -- Keith

Nov. 2, 2002