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Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of graphs inredhat6.2

by Charles R. Anderson

On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 12:22:31PM -0600, Sudhaker P wrote: perams27> Hi Marc, perams27> The KDE for the server was not working for it so I fixed it, removing all perams27> the rpms and re-installing them, I even reinstalled "gd".So I was wondering perams27> if any other libraries related to X-server were broken too. Do "rpm -V packagename" to see if it is broken, or "rpm -Va" to check all packages. To reinstall packages, use "rpm -ivh --replacepkgs package1.rpm package2.rpm ..." -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

Oct. 30, 2002

RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of graphsinredhat6.2

by Marc Hughes

So you're saying that you can use X on the machine, right? If so, I'd look other places for the problem. Double check that your DISPLAY is set properly and access is enabled. This was the exact same error message I used to get when java couldn't connect to the xserver. I find doing something like this: nohup Xvfb :1 -screen 0 800x600x24 & sleep 5 export DISPLAY=localhost:1 xhost + SERVERCOMMAND <- (Whatever you need to do to start the server) Is best since it uses a virtual x server instead of the real one. This works around your problem, but is probably the "correct" way to do it anyways. -Marc -----Original Message----- From: Sudhaker P [mailto:perams27@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 1:23 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of graphsinredhat6.2 Hi Marc, The KDE for the server was not working for it so I fixed it, removing all the rpms and re-installing them, I even reinstalled "gd".So I was wondering if any other libraries related to X-server were broken too. My output for $ps auwx | grep X is as below root 14500 0.0 0.0 2220 980 tty1 S 09:44 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/X11R6/bin/startx root 14507 0.0 0.0 2344 668 tty1 S 09:44 0:00 xinit /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc -- root 14508 0.7 0.3 18156 7956 ? S< 09:44 1:07 /etc/X11/X :0 I'd appreciate your suggestions and comments in this regard. Thanks, Peram >From: "Marc Hughes" <HughesM(a)tomsnyder.com> >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation >of >graphs inredhat6.2 >Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:55:29 -0500 > >What do you mean when you say it seems broken? Are there other >symptoms >besides the java connection to it? > >Can you sit down at the machine and use X? If this is a server, you >probably don't want that ability (that's where Xvfb comes in). What >Xserver are you running? > >If you "ps aux |grep X" do you see an xserver running? > >-Marc > >-----Original Message----- >From: Sudhaker P [mailto:perams27@hotmail.com] >Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:46 AM >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation >of >graphs inredhat6.2 > > >Hi Marc, >Thanks for the reply. >I agree with you Marc, it is a servlet(I'm sorry about that) and its on >the server. The display settings seems to be proper, but my X- server >seems to be broken. I'd appreciate if you can guide me to any kind of >information with the help of which I can fix the issue of broken >X-windows. > >Thanks, > >Peram > > > > > > > >From: "Marc Hughes" <HughesM(a)tomsnyder.com> > >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation > >of graphs inredhat 6.2 > >Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:16:11 -0500 > > > >I'm guessing this is a server (the errors you showed before made it > >look more like a servlet than an applet)... So are you running X? If > >so, when you start the server do you set your DISPLAY variable > >correctly? Does >the > >server process have access to the Xserver? > > > >If you're not running an Xserver, you need to. Weird, huh? Without > >a running X-Server the JRE can't do most graphical operations, even > >if >those > >operations never render to the display. It's a long standing issue > >that >a > >whole lot of people have complained about. What you can do is run > >Xvfb >... > >It's a non graphical X server. It just gives programs an Xserver to > >play with, and never displays the results of those programs. > > > > > > > > > >-Marc > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Sudhaker P [mailto:perams27@hotmail.com] > >Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 9:08 AM > >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation > >of graphs inredhat 6.2 > > > > > >Hi, > >With reply to my previous mail I've figured out that Java "awt" is > >looking for some parameters in X-windows. I think the X is broken. > >I'd appreciate if any of you gurus can guide me with fixing of > >X-windows. > > > >Thanks, > > > >Peram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Sudhaker P" <perams27(a)hotmail.com> > > >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > >Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the > > >generation of graphs in redhat 6.2 > > >Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:07:13 -0600 > > > > > >Hi Karl, > > >Thanks a lot for the response. > > >I'm running it as an applet as in the below mentioned weblogic log > > >java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError > > > at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method) > > > at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:120) > > > at > > > >java.awt.GraphicsEnvironment.getLocalGraphicsEnvironment(GraphicsEnvi > >ronment.java:58) > > > at java.awt.Window.<init>(Window.java:189) > > > at java.awt.Frame.<init>(Frame.java:315) > > > at java.awt.Frame.<init>(Frame.java:262) > > > at com.rivenet.graphingaction.Graphit.runGraph2D(Unknown >Source) > > > at > > >com.rivenet.reporting.InformalFundingComparisonGraph.makeGraph(Unkn > > >ow > > >n > > >Source) > > > at > > > >jsp_servlet._plan._Model_controller._jspService(_Model_controller.jav > >a:356) > > > at weblogic.servlet.jsp.JspBase.service(JspBase.java:27) > > > at > > > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletStubImpl.invokeServlet(ServletStubIm > >pl.java:123) > > > at > > > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextImpl.invokeServlet(ServletCon > >textImpl.java:761) > > > at > > > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextImpl.invokeServlet(ServletCon > >textImpl.java:708) > > > at > > > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextManager.invokeServlet(Servlet > >ContextManager.java:252) > > > at > > > >weblogic.socket.MuxableSocketHTTP.invokeServlet(MuxableSocketHTTP.jav > >a:346) > > > at > > >weblogic.socket.MuxableSocketHTTP.execute(MuxableSocketHTTP.java:246) > > > at > > >weblogic.kernel.ExecuteThread.run(ExecuteThread.java:135) > > > > > >So I was wondering if "awt" since it needs X to generate graphs > > >could be the reason and X might be broken. > > > > > >In your opinion if x is broken what could the rpms that I need to > > >install. I'd appreciate your comments and suggestions. > > > > > >Thanks, > > > > > >Peram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>From: Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)zoop.org> > > >>Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > >>To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > >>Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the > > >>generation of graphs in redhat 6.2 > > >>Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:43:56 -0500 (EST) > > >> > > >> > > >>are you running it from the comand line? or an applet? > > >> > > >>Get any errors on your command line? > > >> > > >> > > >>Did you try on the same machine booting 2.4.16 and 2.4.7 to verify > > >>that it is the kernel? > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Sudhaker P wrote: > > >> > > >> > Hi , > > >> > I've a program that generates graphs with Java 1.3.1_01. The > > >> > same > > >>program is > > >> > able to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel 2.4.16 > > >> > but it > > >>fails > > >> > to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel 2.4.7-10 on > > >> > which it > > >>used > > >> > to generate before. I've installed KDE and gd thinking that > > >> > something > > >>may > > >> > broken in the OS on the jpegs generation part. But that doesn't > > >> > seem to help. I'd appreciate if any of you gurus can guide me > > >> > in this issue with your comments and suggestions. > > >> > > > >> > Thanks, > > >> > > > >> > Peram > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > _______________________________________________________________ > > >> > __ > > >> > Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! > > >> > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > >> > Wlug mailing list > > >> > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >> > > > >> > > >>-- > > >> > > >>¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø > > >>Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> > > >>Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 > > >>Cell: 508-517-4819 > > >>Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ > > >>Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ > > >>Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ > > >>KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ > > >>AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto > > >>¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø > > >> > > >>Confirmed bachelor: > > >> A man who goes through life without a hitch. > > >> > > >> > > >>_______________________________________________ > > >>Wlug mailing list > > >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > >Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! 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Oct. 30, 2002

RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of graphs inredhat6.2

by Sudhaker P

Hi Marc, The KDE for the server was not working for it so I fixed it, removing all the rpms and re-installing them, I even reinstalled "gd".So I was wondering if any other libraries related to X-server were broken too. My output for $ps auwx | grep X is as below root 14500 0.0 0.0 2220 980 tty1 S 09:44 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/X11R6/bin/startx root 14507 0.0 0.0 2344 668 tty1 S 09:44 0:00 xinit /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc -- root 14508 0.7 0.3 18156 7956 ? S< 09:44 1:07 /etc/X11/X :0 I'd appreciate your suggestions and comments in this regard. Thanks, Peram >From: "Marc Hughes" <HughesM(a)tomsnyder.com> >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of >graphs inredhat6.2 >Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 10:55:29 -0500 > >What do you mean when you say it seems broken? Are there other symptoms >besides the java connection to it? > >Can you sit down at the machine and use X? If this is a server, you >probably don't want that ability (that's where Xvfb comes in). What >Xserver are you running? > >If you "ps aux |grep X" do you see an xserver running? > >-Marc > >-----Original Message----- >From: Sudhaker P [mailto:perams27@hotmail.com] >Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:46 AM >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of >graphs inredhat6.2 > > >Hi Marc, >Thanks for the reply. >I agree with you Marc, it is a servlet(I'm sorry about that) and its on the >server. The display settings seems to be proper, but my X- server seems to >be broken. >I'd appreciate if you can guide me to any kind of information with the help >of which I can fix the issue of broken X-windows. > >Thanks, > >Peram > > > > > > > >From: "Marc Hughes" <HughesM(a)tomsnyder.com> > >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation > >of > >graphs inredhat 6.2 > >Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:16:11 -0500 > > > >I'm guessing this is a server (the errors you showed before made it > >look > >more like a servlet than an applet)... So are you running X? If so, when > >you start the server do you set your DISPLAY variable correctly? Does >the > >server process have access to the Xserver? > > > >If you're not running an Xserver, you need to. Weird, huh? Without a > >running X-Server the JRE can't do most graphical operations, even if >those > >operations never render to the display. It's a long standing issue that >a > >whole lot of people have complained about. What you can do is run Xvfb >... > >It's a non graphical X server. It just gives programs an Xserver to play > >with, and never displays the results of those programs. > > > > > > > > > >-Marc > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Sudhaker P [mailto:perams27@hotmail.com] > >Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 9:08 AM > >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation > >of > >graphs inredhat 6.2 > > > > > >Hi, > >With reply to my previous mail I've figured out that Java "awt" is > >looking for some parameters in X-windows. I think the X is broken. I'd > >appreciate if any of you gurus can guide me with fixing of X-windows. > > > >Thanks, > > > >Peram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: "Sudhaker P" <perams27(a)hotmail.com> > > >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > >Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation > > >of graphs in redhat 6.2 > > >Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:07:13 -0600 > > > > > >Hi Karl, > > >Thanks a lot for the response. > > >I'm running it as an applet as in the below mentioned weblogic log > > >java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError > > > at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method) > > > at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:120) > > > at > > > >java.awt.GraphicsEnvironment.getLocalGraphicsEnvironment(GraphicsEnvironment.java:58) > > > at java.awt.Window.<init>(Window.java:189) > > > at java.awt.Frame.<init>(Frame.java:315) > > > at java.awt.Frame.<init>(Frame.java:262) > > > at com.rivenet.graphingaction.Graphit.runGraph2D(Unknown >Source) > > > at > > >com.rivenet.reporting.InformalFundingComparisonGraph.makeGraph(Unknow > > >n > > >Source) > > > at > > > >jsp_servlet._plan._Model_controller._jspService(_Model_controller.java:356) > > > at weblogic.servlet.jsp.JspBase.service(JspBase.java:27) > > > at > > > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletStubImpl.invokeServlet(ServletStubImpl.java:123) > > > at > > > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextImpl.invokeServlet(ServletContextImpl.java:761) > > > at > > > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextImpl.invokeServlet(ServletContextImpl.java:708) > > > at > > > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextManager.invokeServlet(ServletContextManager.java:252) > > > at > > > >weblogic.socket.MuxableSocketHTTP.invokeServlet(MuxableSocketHTTP.java:346) > > > at > > >weblogic.socket.MuxableSocketHTTP.execute(MuxableSocketHTTP.java:246) > > > at weblogic.kernel.ExecuteThread.run(ExecuteThread.java:135) > > > > > >So I was wondering if "awt" since it needs X to generate graphs could > > >be the reason and X might be broken. > > > > > >In your opinion if x is broken what could the rpms that I need to > > >install. I'd appreciate your comments and suggestions. > > > > > >Thanks, > > > > > >Peram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>From: Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)zoop.org> > > >>Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > >>To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > >>Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the > > >>generation of graphs in redhat 6.2 > > >>Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:43:56 -0500 (EST) > > >> > > >> > > >>are you running it from the comand line? or an applet? > > >> > > >>Get any errors on your command line? > > >> > > >> > > >>Did you try on the same machine booting 2.4.16 and 2.4.7 to verify > > >>that it is the kernel? > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Sudhaker P wrote: > > >> > > >> > Hi , > > >> > I've a program that generates graphs with Java 1.3.1_01. The same > > >>program is > > >> > able to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel 2.4.16 > > >> > but it > > >>fails > > >> > to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel 2.4.7-10 on > > >> > which it > > >>used > > >> > to generate before. I've installed KDE and gd thinking that > > >> > something > > >>may > > >> > broken in the OS on the jpegs generation part. But that doesn't > > >> > seem to help. I'd appreciate if any of you gurus can guide me in > > >> > this issue with your comments and suggestions. > > >> > > > >> > Thanks, > > >> > > > >> > Peram > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > _________________________________________________________________ > > >> > Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! > > >> > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > _______________________________________________ > > >> > Wlug mailing list > > >> > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >> > > > >> > > >>-- > > >> > > >>€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø > > >>Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> > > >>Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 > > >>Cell: 508-517-4819 > > >>Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ > > >>Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ > > >>Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ > > >>KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ > > >>AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto > > >>€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø > > >> > > >>Confirmed bachelor: > > >> A man who goes through life without a hitch. > > >> > > >> > > >>_______________________________________________ > > >>Wlug mailing list > > >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > >Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! Try MSN. > > >http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Wlug mailing list > > >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. > >http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Wlug mailing list > >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Wlug mailing list > >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online >http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _________________________________________________________________ Broadband? 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Oct. 30, 2002

Thanks for usb help

by Wes Allen

Hi all, Thanks to everyone who tried to help me with my usb problems, it's always a pain when you know WHAT is wrong, but you don't know how to FIX it. Today I went to compUSA got their cheap-o usb2.0 cardbus card for $50, took it home and installed it. IT WORKS. So, when the next kernel fixes this apic promlem I'll have my 2 usb 1.1 ports AND 2 usb2.0 ports as well. I love linux sometimes, well, most times really. Wes -- ------ This message may be signed using GPG, for my public key please send me a message with "Key Request" in the subject line.

Oct. 30, 2002

RE: [Wlug] noseguy text

by Keller, Tim

Look here... http://cx.capsi.com/code-matrixfortunes.html Tim. "Why are my eyes sore?" "You've never used them before. Rest, Neo. The answers are coming." -- Neo and Morpheus, "The Matrix" -----Original Message----- From: Clint Moyer [mailto:cdmoyer@charter.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 11:03 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: RE: [Wlug] noseguy text Link? -----Original Message----- From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org]On Behalf Of Keller, Tim Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 9:01 AM To: 'wlug(a)mail.wlug.org' Subject: RE: [Wlug] noseguy text As a side note, for you Matrix fans out there, so guy has a whole fortunes file that's matrix quotes (I know cause I have it installed...) It is not the spoon you bend, but your mind... there is no spoon. -----Original Message----- From: Theo Van Dinter [mailto:felicity@kluge.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 22:18 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] noseguy text On Fri, Oct 25, 2002 at 09:07:32PM -0400, reavey wrote: > I would like to use noseguy but don't understand how it works?? > I have read it likes to run fortunes, and yet when I use either the text > files or .dat it won't read.Permission denial, chmod 777== can't execute > binary?? Regular text files are not parsed and it deadlocks. > What do you think? Should I write a program in python to parse a text > file(out of my ken). There is probably something stupid I can't see FYI: fortune has 2 files, the text file, and a "database" dat file which specifies how many fortunes there are, what offsets in the text file they're at, etc, etc. If you only edit the text file, fortune will get very confused. doing a "man strfile" will help you out. I also wrote a perl version (for the perl power tools project) which you can find on their website (do a google search for "perl power tools"...) -- Randomly Generated Tagline: We are Pentium of Borg. Division is futile. You will be approximated. (seen in someone's .signature) _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Oct. 30, 2002

RE: [Wlug] noseguy text

by Clint Moyer

Link? -----Original Message----- From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org]On Behalf Of Keller, Tim Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 9:01 AM To: 'wlug(a)mail.wlug.org' Subject: RE: [Wlug] noseguy text As a side note, for you Matrix fans out there, so guy has a whole fortunes file that's matrix quotes (I know cause I have it installed...) It is not the spoon you bend, but your mind... there is no spoon. -----Original Message----- From: Theo Van Dinter [mailto:felicity@kluge.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 22:18 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] noseguy text On Fri, Oct 25, 2002 at 09:07:32PM -0400, reavey wrote: > I would like to use noseguy but don't understand how it works?? > I have read it likes to run fortunes, and yet when I use either the text > files or .dat it won't read.Permission denial, chmod 777== can't execute > binary?? Regular text files are not parsed and it deadlocks. > What do you think? Should I write a program in python to parse a text > file(out of my ken). There is probably something stupid I can't see FYI: fortune has 2 files, the text file, and a "database" dat file which specifies how many fortunes there are, what offsets in the text file they're at, etc, etc. If you only edit the text file, fortune will get very confused. doing a "man strfile" will help you out. I also wrote a perl version (for the perl power tools project) which you can find on their website (do a google search for "perl power tools"...) -- Randomly Generated Tagline: We are Pentium of Borg. Division is futile. You will be approximated. (seen in someone's .signature) _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Oct. 30, 2002

RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of graphs inredhat6.2

by Marc Hughes

What do you mean when you say it seems broken? Are there other symptoms besides the java connection to it? Can you sit down at the machine and use X? If this is a server, you probably don't want that ability (that's where Xvfb comes in). What Xserver are you running? If you "ps aux |grep X" do you see an xserver running? -Marc -----Original Message----- From: Sudhaker P [mailto:perams27@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 10:46 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of graphs inredhat6.2 Hi Marc, Thanks for the reply. I agree with you Marc, it is a servlet(I'm sorry about that) and its on the server. The display settings seems to be proper, but my X- server seems to be broken. I'd appreciate if you can guide me to any kind of information with the help of which I can fix the issue of broken X-windows. Thanks, Peram >From: "Marc Hughes" <HughesM(a)tomsnyder.com> >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation >of >graphs inredhat 6.2 >Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:16:11 -0500 > >I'm guessing this is a server (the errors you showed before made it >look >more like a servlet than an applet)... So are you running X? If so, when >you start the server do you set your DISPLAY variable correctly? Does the >server process have access to the Xserver? > >If you're not running an Xserver, you need to. Weird, huh? Without a >running X-Server the JRE can't do most graphical operations, even if those >operations never render to the display. It's a long standing issue that a >whole lot of people have complained about. What you can do is run Xvfb ... >It's a non graphical X server. It just gives programs an Xserver to play >with, and never displays the results of those programs. > > > > >-Marc > >-----Original Message----- >From: Sudhaker P [mailto:perams27@hotmail.com] >Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 9:08 AM >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation >of >graphs inredhat 6.2 > > >Hi, >With reply to my previous mail I've figured out that Java "awt" is >looking for some parameters in X-windows. I think the X is broken. I'd >appreciate if any of you gurus can guide me with fixing of X-windows. > >Thanks, > >Peram > > > > > > > >From: "Sudhaker P" <perams27(a)hotmail.com> > >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation > >of graphs in redhat 6.2 > >Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:07:13 -0600 > > > >Hi Karl, > >Thanks a lot for the response. > >I'm running it as an applet as in the below mentioned weblogic log > >java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError > > at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method) > > at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:120) > > at > >java.awt.GraphicsEnvironment.getLocalGraphicsEnvironment(GraphicsEnvironment.java:58) > > at java.awt.Window.<init>(Window.java:189) > > at java.awt.Frame.<init>(Frame.java:315) > > at java.awt.Frame.<init>(Frame.java:262) > > at com.rivenet.graphingaction.Graphit.runGraph2D(Unknown Source) > > at > >com.rivenet.reporting.InformalFundingComparisonGraph.makeGraph(Unknow > >n > >Source) > > at > >jsp_servlet._plan._Model_controller._jspService(_Model_controller.java:356) > > at weblogic.servlet.jsp.JspBase.service(JspBase.java:27) > > at > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletStubImpl.invokeServlet(ServletStubImpl.java:123) > > at > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextImpl.invokeServlet(ServletContextImpl.java:761) > > at > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextImpl.invokeServlet(ServletContextImpl.java:708) > > at > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextManager.invokeServlet(ServletContextManager.java:252) > > at > >weblogic.socket.MuxableSocketHTTP.invokeServlet(MuxableSocketHTTP.java:346) > > at > >weblogic.socket.MuxableSocketHTTP.execute(MuxableSocketHTTP.java:246) > > at weblogic.kernel.ExecuteThread.run(ExecuteThread.java:135) > > > >So I was wondering if "awt" since it needs X to generate graphs could > >be the reason and X might be broken. > > > >In your opinion if x is broken what could the rpms that I need to > >install. I'd appreciate your comments and suggestions. > > > >Thanks, > > > >Peram > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>From: Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)zoop.org> > >>Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >>To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >>Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the > >>generation of graphs in redhat 6.2 > >>Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:43:56 -0500 (EST) > >> > >> > >>are you running it from the comand line? or an applet? > >> > >>Get any errors on your command line? > >> > >> > >>Did you try on the same machine booting 2.4.16 and 2.4.7 to verify > >>that it is the kernel? > >> > >> > >> > >>On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Sudhaker P wrote: > >> > >> > Hi , > >> > I've a program that generates graphs with Java 1.3.1_01. The same > >>program is > >> > able to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel 2.4.16 > >> > but it > >>fails > >> > to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel 2.4.7-10 on > >> > which it > >>used > >> > to generate before. I've installed KDE and gd thinking that > >> > something > >>may > >> > broken in the OS on the jpegs generation part. But that doesn't > >> > seem to help. I'd appreciate if any of you gurus can guide me in > >> > this issue with your comments and suggestions. > >> > > >> > Thanks, > >> > > >> > Peram > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > _________________________________________________________________ > >> > Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! > >> > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Wlug mailing list > >> > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >> > > >> > >>-- > >> > >>¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø > >>Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> > >>Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 > >>Cell: 508-517-4819 > >>Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ > >>Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ > >>Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ > >>KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ > >>AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto > >>¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø > >> > >>Confirmed bachelor: > >> A man who goes through life without a hitch. > >> > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Wlug mailing list > >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! Try MSN. > >http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Wlug mailing list > >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. >http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp > > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Oct. 30, 2002

RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of graphs inredhat 6.2

by Sudhaker P

Hi Marc, Thanks for the reply. I agree with you Marc, it is a servlet(I'm sorry about that) and its on the server. The display settings seems to be proper, but my X- server seems to be broken. I'd appreciate if you can guide me to any kind of information with the help of which I can fix the issue of broken X-windows. Thanks, Peram >From: "Marc Hughes" <HughesM(a)tomsnyder.com> >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >Subject: RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of >graphs inredhat 6.2 >Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2002 09:16:11 -0500 > >I'm guessing this is a server (the errors you showed before made it look >more like a servlet than an applet)... So are you running X? If so, when >you start the server do you set your DISPLAY variable correctly? Does the >server process have access to the Xserver? > >If you're not running an Xserver, you need to. Weird, huh? Without a >running X-Server the JRE can't do most graphical operations, even if those >operations never render to the display. It's a long standing issue that a >whole lot of people have complained about. What you can do is run Xvfb ... >It's a non graphical X server. It just gives programs an Xserver to play >with, and never displays the results of those programs. > > > > >-Marc > >-----Original Message----- >From: Sudhaker P [mailto:perams27@hotmail.com] >Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 9:08 AM >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of >graphs inredhat 6.2 > > >Hi, >With reply to my previous mail I've figured out that Java "awt" is looking >for some parameters in X-windows. I think the X is broken. >I'd appreciate if any of you gurus can guide me with fixing of X-windows. > >Thanks, > >Peram > > > > > > > >From: "Sudhaker P" <perams27(a)hotmail.com> > >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation > >of > >graphs in redhat 6.2 > >Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:07:13 -0600 > > > >Hi Karl, > >Thanks a lot for the response. > >I'm running it as an applet as in the below mentioned weblogic log > >java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError > > at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method) > > at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:120) > > at > >java.awt.GraphicsEnvironment.getLocalGraphicsEnvironment(GraphicsEnvironment.java:58) > > at java.awt.Window.<init>(Window.java:189) > > at java.awt.Frame.<init>(Frame.java:315) > > at java.awt.Frame.<init>(Frame.java:262) > > at com.rivenet.graphingaction.Graphit.runGraph2D(Unknown Source) > > at > >com.rivenet.reporting.InformalFundingComparisonGraph.makeGraph(Unknown > >Source) > > at > >jsp_servlet._plan._Model_controller._jspService(_Model_controller.java:356) > > at weblogic.servlet.jsp.JspBase.service(JspBase.java:27) > > at > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletStubImpl.invokeServlet(ServletStubImpl.java:123) > > at > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextImpl.invokeServlet(ServletContextImpl.java:761) > > at > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextImpl.invokeServlet(ServletContextImpl.java:708) > > at > >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextManager.invokeServlet(ServletContextManager.java:252) > > at > >weblogic.socket.MuxableSocketHTTP.invokeServlet(MuxableSocketHTTP.java:346) > > at > >weblogic.socket.MuxableSocketHTTP.execute(MuxableSocketHTTP.java:246) > > at weblogic.kernel.ExecuteThread.run(ExecuteThread.java:135) > > > >So I was wondering if "awt" since it needs X to generate graphs could > >be > >the reason and X might be broken. > > > >In your opinion if x is broken what could the rpms that I need to > >install. I'd appreciate your comments and suggestions. > > > >Thanks, > > > >Peram > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>From: Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)zoop.org> > >>Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >>To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >>Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation > >>of > >>graphs in redhat 6.2 > >>Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:43:56 -0500 (EST) > >> > >> > >>are you running it from the comand line? or an applet? > >> > >>Get any errors on your command line? > >> > >> > >>Did you try on the same machine booting 2.4.16 and 2.4.7 to verify > >>that it is the kernel? > >> > >> > >> > >>On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Sudhaker P wrote: > >> > >> > Hi , > >> > I've a program that generates graphs with Java 1.3.1_01. The same > >>program is > >> > able to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel 2.4.16 but > >> > it > >>fails > >> > to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel 2.4.7-10 on > >> > which it > >>used > >> > to generate before. I've installed KDE and gd thinking that > >> > something > >>may > >> > broken in the OS on the jpegs generation part. But that doesn't > >> > seem to help. I'd appreciate if any of you gurus can guide me in > >> > this issue with your comments and suggestions. > >> > > >> > Thanks, > >> > > >> > Peram > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > _________________________________________________________________ > >> > Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! > >> > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Wlug mailing list > >> > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >> > > >> > >>-- > >> > >>€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø > >>Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> > >>Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 > >>Cell: 508-517-4819 > >>Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ > >>Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ > >>Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ > >>KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ > >>AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto > >>€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø,žž,ø€º°`°º€ø > >> > >>Confirmed bachelor: > >> A man who goes through life without a hitch. > >> > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Wlug mailing list > >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! 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Oct. 30, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Building RH7.3 server after 7.0 hacked -second request

by Richard Goodman

>On Tue, 2002-10-29 at 23:37, Richard Goodman wrote: >> >> SECOND REQUEST >> Additional information >> >> This does not appear to be just a problem with server (A). I cannot send >> mail between any of my three RH7.3 mail servers, but all will send mail >> locally, and all will send to / receive from the outside world. >> >> I am using a RH7.3 /etc/mail/sendmail.mc except for commenting out the >> DAEMON-OPTIONS line to allow outside mail, and turning off > > FEATURE(`accept_unresolvable_domains') >> >> Is there some change to the sendmail in RH7.3 of which I am unaware that >> could cause this? >> ....... > >Dick, > >Did you add a 'sendmail: ALL' to your /etc/hosts.allow? (I believe that >a big difference in sendmail between RHL 7.0 and 7.1 ff was linking >against libwrap [TCP Wrappers]) > >-Peter Gutowski Modified /etc/hosts.allow on two of the servers, and restarted both sendmails (not sure if that was needed) -- no change. This ONLY happens between my own RH7.3 servers, the sending sendmail log says "DSN: Local configuration error" and "SYSERR(root): <destination domain> config error: mail loops back to me (MX problem?)" -- but I don't use MX records Any other differences after RH 7.0 ?? This all used to work between two RH7.0 servers Dick

Oct. 30, 2002

RE: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of graphs inredhat 6.2

by Marc Hughes

I'm guessing this is a server (the errors you showed before made it look more like a servlet than an applet)... So are you running X? If so, when you start the server do you set your DISPLAY variable correctly? Does the server process have access to the Xserver? If you're not running an Xserver, you need to. Weird, huh? Without a running X-Server the JRE can't do most graphical operations, even if those operations never render to the display. It's a long standing issue that a whole lot of people have complained about. What you can do is run Xvfb ... It's a non graphical X server. It just gives programs an Xserver to play with, and never displays the results of those programs. -Marc -----Original Message----- From: Sudhaker P [mailto:perams27@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 9:08 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation of graphs inredhat 6.2 Hi, With reply to my previous mail I've figured out that Java "awt" is looking for some parameters in X-windows. I think the X is broken. I'd appreciate if any of you gurus can guide me with fixing of X-windows. Thanks, Peram >From: "Sudhaker P" <perams27(a)hotmail.com> >Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation >of >graphs in redhat 6.2 >Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:07:13 -0600 > >Hi Karl, >Thanks a lot for the response. >I'm running it as an applet as in the below mentioned weblogic log >java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError > at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method) > at java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:120) > at >java.awt.GraphicsEnvironment.getLocalGraphicsEnvironment(GraphicsEnvironment.java:58) > at java.awt.Window.<init>(Window.java:189) > at java.awt.Frame.<init>(Frame.java:315) > at java.awt.Frame.<init>(Frame.java:262) > at com.rivenet.graphingaction.Graphit.runGraph2D(Unknown Source) > at >com.rivenet.reporting.InformalFundingComparisonGraph.makeGraph(Unknown >Source) > at >jsp_servlet._plan._Model_controller._jspService(_Model_controller.java:356) > at weblogic.servlet.jsp.JspBase.service(JspBase.java:27) > at >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletStubImpl.invokeServlet(ServletStubImpl.java:123) > at >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextImpl.invokeServlet(ServletContextImpl.java:761) > at >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextImpl.invokeServlet(ServletContextImpl.java:708) > at >weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletContextManager.invokeServlet(ServletContextManager.java:252) > at >weblogic.socket.MuxableSocketHTTP.invokeServlet(MuxableSocketHTTP.java:346) > at >weblogic.socket.MuxableSocketHTTP.execute(MuxableSocketHTTP.java:246) > at weblogic.kernel.ExecuteThread.run(ExecuteThread.java:135) > >So I was wondering if "awt" since it needs X to generate graphs could >be >the reason and X might be broken. > >In your opinion if x is broken what could the rpms that I need to >install. I'd appreciate your comments and suggestions. > >Thanks, > >Peram > > > > > > >>From: Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)zoop.org> >>Reply-To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>Subject: Re: [Wlug] Newbie to mailing list- Issue with the generation >>of >>graphs in redhat 6.2 >>Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 14:43:56 -0500 (EST) >> >> >>are you running it from the comand line? or an applet? >> >>Get any errors on your command line? >> >> >>Did you try on the same machine booting 2.4.16 and 2.4.7 to verify >>that it is the kernel? >> >> >> >>On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Sudhaker P wrote: >> >> > Hi , >> > I've a program that generates graphs with Java 1.3.1_01. The same >>program is >> > able to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel 2.4.16 but >> > it >>fails >> > to generate graphs on a machine with RH 6.2 kernel 2.4.7-10 on >> > which it >>used >> > to generate before. I've installed KDE and gd thinking that >> > something >>may >> > broken in the OS on the jpegs generation part. But that doesn't >> > seem to help. I'd appreciate if any of you gurus can guide me in >> > this issue with your comments and suggestions. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> > Peram >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > _________________________________________________________________ >> > Choose an Internet access plan right for you -- try MSN! >> > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Wlug mailing list >> > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > >> >>-- >> >>¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø >>Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> >>Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 >>Cell: 508-517-4819 >>Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ >>Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ >>Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ >>KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ >>AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto >>¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø >> >>Confirmed bachelor: >> A man who goes through life without a hitch. >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Wlug mailing list >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Unlimited Internet access -- and 2 months free! Try MSN. >http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp > > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _________________________________________________________________ Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Oct. 30, 2002