October 2002 - WLUG - wlug.mailman3.com

Re: [Wlug] Red Hat 8.0

by Brian J.Conway

ftp://angus.ind.wpi.edu/pub/mirrors/redhat/linux/8.0/en/os/i386/README On Sat, 05 Oct 2002 10:53:09 -0400 Chris <cogren(a)charter.net> wrote: > Are all 5 iso images needed for install? I would imagine not. Does > anyone know what each iso image is titled. Historically, one has been > for sources and another for binaries, etc. > > Chris > > Charles R. Anderson wrote: > > >Come and get it: > > > >ftp://angus.ind.wpi.edu/pub/mirrors/redhat/linux/8.0/en > > > >ISO's and full install tree. > > > >wpila.org seems to be down right now, so when it comes back could one > >of you forward my message to them? Thanks. > > > > > >

Oct. 5, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Red Hat 8.0

by Chris

Are all 5 iso images needed for install? I would imagine not. Does anyone know what each iso image is titled. Historically, one has been for sources and another for binaries, etc. Chris Charles R. Anderson wrote: >Come and get it: > >ftp://angus.ind.wpi.edu/pub/mirrors/redhat/linux/8.0/en > >ISO's and full install tree. > >wpila.org seems to be down right now, so when it comes back could one of >you forward my message to them? Thanks. > > >

Oct. 5, 2002

Mr Linux basks in the limelight

by Karl Hiramoto

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/2300267.stm Linus Torvalds has revealed he is happy to be the poster boy for the anti-Microsoft campaign but would not know what to say if he met Bill Gates. Talking to BBC World ClickOnline at his home in Silicon Valley, the inventor of the Linux operating system admitted that he has never been in the same room with his arch-rival. "We have been at the same conferences but never in the same room. I wouldn't know what to say to him," he told ClickOnline. Mr Torvalds enjoys the notoriety he has achieved as the man that challenged the Microsoft empire with his open source alternative operating system. *Rising to the challenge "In a way it is fun. I'm pleased to be a poster boy. It gives me some self-importance," he said. He would not, however, want to become personally involved in the dispute with Microsoft. "I've tried to stay out of the Microsoft debate. If you start doing things because you hate others and want to screw them over the end result is bad," he said. The main reason he developed Linux in the first place had as much to do with wanting a challenge as being fed up with an operating system that would not do what he wanted it to. Like most technology projects it ran way over the time allotted to it and, to this day, is not truly finished. "It was a lot harder than I expected. I thought, like most of my projects, it would talk half a year and then I'd lose interest," he said. To the relief of his legion of followers he did persevere and eleven years on is still working on it. Reluctance to change While Linux is gradually gaining ground on Microsoft it might well not be suitable for everyone, Mr Torvalds admitted. "Most people don't want to change. They may hate Windows but they run it despite that because, quite frankly, they don't care about computers," he said. And even those that do care, often install Linux without much idea of what they want it to do, he said. Mr Torvalds is not convinced that the open source movement, which has radically altered both the operating system landscape and the mindset of Microsoft itself, will ever entirely topple the Gates empire. "I think, in the end, Linux will be a big part of why it happens but Microsoft is not going to shrink into nothingness in the foreseeable future," he said. Instead it is more likely that Microsoft will become like IBM - "still huge but not the dominant force anymore", he said. The world of coding is beginning to lose importance as Mr Torvalds, ubergeek, admits he has finally found a balance between work and play. *Uber-geek grows up "I have a life too. I have kids now. Linux has been a big part of my life but now I want to have my own time," he told ClickOnline. He revealed that he is more likely to have childrens' parties with bouncy castle and candyfloss than to have a bunch of programmers round. "Part of doing Linux was that I had to communicate a lot more instead of just being a geek in front of a computer. "It has made me more used to talking to people. I still like coding but I have other things to do," he said. Although his followers would dispute it, Mr Torvalds is not convinced the phenomenon of Linux has made him entirely cool. "No-one has ever called me a cool dude. I'm somewhere between geek and normal," he said. -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø When this load is DONE I think I'll wash it AGAIN ...

Oct. 5, 2002

Re: [Wlug] I know the problem, anyone know the commands...

by Wesley Allen

Karl, Sorry for taking so long to answer your post, devusb is mounted usb devices just aren't accepting addresses. The only fix I've seen in the web is to get the the usb bridge off irq 9 and move it to 11. I still haven't figured out how to do that manually. Wes On Thu, 2002-10-03 at 16:22, Karl Hiramoto wrote: > > Shouldn't the ACPI and USB be able to share an IRQ? > > Did you mount your devusb filesystem? > > > On 3 Oct 2002, Wesley Allen wrote: > > > Hi gang, > > I've tracked down my usb problem. It appears that both my acpi and usb > > controllers are competing for irq 9; what I need to do is set my irq > > for usb to 11 and then it should work. How do I switch irq values?? > > > > Wes > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > -- > > ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø > Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> > Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 > Cell: 508-517-4819 > Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ > Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ > KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ > AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto > ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø > > It was kinda like stuffing the wrong card in a computer, when you're > stickin' those artificial stimulants in your arm. > -- Dion, noted computer scientist > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Oct. 5, 2002

Download Plugin for Mozilla...

by Stephen C. Daukas

Hi all! I keep getting this annoying message from Mozilla 1.0 about a Download Plugin Download abvailable from Netscape. This happens almost everytime I go to a webpage to unsubscribe from some of the junk mail I get. I have tried looking for a Download Plugin Download at both Mozilla and Netscape, but have come up empty handed. Anyone know of such a thing? Thanks! Steve

Oct. 4, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Red Hat 8.0

by Wes Allen

MDK 9.0 is a nice distro, Lycoris is good as well for starters. Wes On Friday 04 October 2002 5:29 pm, joel jones wrote: > Earlier this week I installed a minimalist configuration of RH 8.0 on my > old Thinkpad 365XD (P133/40MB/6GB). The configuration works fine except > for being slow due to lack of processor and memory (40 MB RAM is max'd). > > The only snag I ran into was a hang on install just before the first RPM > installs. The machine locked up there twice during the text install. I > found this lockup only happened to me doing a "custom" install and not the > "workstation" install. > > RH 8.0 does seem improved over RH 7.X in terms of the quality of fonts and > GUI mods. I also found more things I could quickly disable features to > make life bearable on this old hardware (wallpaper,menu icons,etc). > Unfortunately, I have not tried other distributions yet and cannot > intelligently compare them to RH 7.X or 8.0. > > My next step is to find a very small window manager to hopefully make this > machine perform reasonably in X. Currently I am considering replacing the > default Gnome with either IceWM and Enlightenment. > > Joel > ===================== > > >Hello, > >About 24 months ago I gave linux RH 6.2 a try. I am not a programmer >and > >not very familiar with unix or linux. I did get the linux to run >and was > >able to connect to the internet but had a lot of trouble >getting printers > >to work and found it generally difficult for someone >with my skill level. > > > >WLUG was very helpful and I though that in a while I would try again. >I > >think that this fall I am going to make another effort. Are there >any > >suggestions of what distro to try. Basically I will have a dual >boot > >system with either xp or 2000. I have a PII 450 with 196mb ram >and 13gig > >HD. > > > >I appreciate the advice. > >Thanks > >Tom > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Oct. 4, 2002

RE:[Wlug] Red Hat 8.0

by joel jones

Earlier this week I installed a minimalist configuration of RH 8.0 on my old Thinkpad 365XD (P133/40MB/6GB). The configuration works fine except for being slow due to lack of processor and memory (40 MB RAM is max'd). The only snag I ran into was a hang on install just before the first RPM installs. The machine locked up there twice during the text install. I found this lockup only happened to me doing a "custom" install and not the "workstation" install. RH 8.0 does seem improved over RH 7.X in terms of the quality of fonts and GUI mods. I also found more things I could quickly disable features to make life bearable on this old hardware (wallpaper,menu icons,etc). Unfortunately, I have not tried other distributions yet and cannot intelligently compare them to RH 7.X or 8.0. My next step is to find a very small window manager to hopefully make this machine perform reasonably in X. Currently I am considering replacing the default Gnome with either IceWM and Enlightenment. Joel ===================== > >Hello, >About 24 months ago I gave linux RH 6.2 a try. I am not a programmer >and >not very familiar with unix or linux. I did get the linux to run >and was >able to connect to the internet but had a lot of trouble >getting printers >to work and found it generally difficult for someone >with my skill level. > >WLUG was very helpful and I though that in a while I would try again. >I >think that this fall I am going to make another effort. Are there >any >suggestions of what distro to try. Basically I will have a dual >boot >system with either xp or 2000. I have a PII 450 with 196mb ram >and 13gig >HD. > >I appreciate the advice. >Thanks >Tom _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

Oct. 4, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Sendmail

by JP LaFleur

On Tue, 2002-10-01 at 06:28, Aramico wrote: > Where can I get detail documentation about Sendmail and Qmail ? > I mean, the documentations on their site both are meaningless for me. > > Well, it's all just about the the pop3, smtp, virtualhost, etc. > > Thanks! If you want to use qmail, I've always found "Life With Qmail" to be particulary handy. http://www.lifewithqmail.org/lwq.html -JP

Oct. 4, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Red Hat 8.0

by Karl Hiramoto

I second that recomendation for mandrake 9.0 I used 8.1 and it was very full featured! On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, Charles R. Anderson wrote: > On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 06:14:33PM -0400, W. Thomas Manders wrote: > wtmanders> Are there any suggestions of what distro to try. Basically I will have a > wtmanders> dual boot system with either xp or 2000. > > Red Hat 8.0 is specifically geared, for the first time ever, for Desktop > installation and ease-of-use, so that is what I would recommend. > > Mandrake 9 was also just recently released, and it might be worth a try > also. Mandrake has historically been geared towards Desktop > ease-of-use. > > -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø because of network lag due to too many people playing deathmatch

Oct. 4, 2002

Re: [Wlug] Red Hat 8.0

by Charles R. Anderson

On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 06:14:33PM -0400, W. Thomas Manders wrote: wtmanders> Are there any suggestions of what distro to try. Basically I will have a wtmanders> dual boot system with either xp or 2000. Red Hat 8.0 is specifically geared, for the first time ever, for Desktop installation and ease-of-use, so that is what I would recommend. Mandrake 9 was also just recently released, and it might be worth a try also. Mandrake has historically been geared towards Desktop ease-of-use. -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

Oct. 3, 2002