September 2001 - WLUG - wlug.mailman3.com

Re: [Wlug] NIC's, 486's and a whole lot of frustration.

by Scott Venier

I'd suggest using something newer then slackware 3.5. Espeically since you want this to act as your web server. There have been an amazing number of secuirty holes found since 3.5 was current. If you put that up on the net, it will get r00ted. Scott

Sept. 25, 2001

NIC's, 486's and a whole lot of frustration.

by Tim Trachimowicz

Hey folks... Ok, I have a beat up Compaq ProLinea 486/50MHz, 16MB RAM, 120MB hard drive, a D-Link 220 NIC and a spare IP addres from my DSL provider. I just installed a fresh Slackware 3.5 install of the "A" and "N" disks. My goal is to set it up as a webserver to host a few web pages I've been working on. Now, I've used Linux before, in my other computer using a Win98/RH6 dual boot system, so I've got a basic understanding of what's going on. However, I was using a modem to get online at that time and everything was all well and good for what I was doing. Now, I'm clueless about setting up this sh-tbox for what I want to do with it. Here are my questions: 1) Is it worth it/can it be done? (This would defintely affect the rest of the questions...) 2) How the hell do I set up my NIC for DSL? I have tried to setup my NIC per some FAQ's, O'Reilly's Running Linux (2nd Edition), Usenet posts and a lame HOWTO from my DSL provider. They all seem to advocate different steps which is confusing and doesn't seem to work.

Sept. 25, 2001

coyote linux floppy distro

by Benjamin Zack

Another floppy distro one could use is Coyote Linux. It appears to have a more recent version of the kernel (2.2.19) than the versions of LRP I found(2.2.16). It is based on LRP and has easy install scripts that walk you through the disk creation. There is also a disk creation tool that will run on Windows. It might be worth checking out. FYI, both the Coyote and, I believe, LRP contain exploitable versions of ip_masq_irc, ip_masq_ftp, ip_masq_raudio. Links: http://www.dalantech.com/coyote-faq.shtml#vulnerable http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/3117 -Ben

Sept. 24, 2001

Re: [Wlug] Firewall on 486 w/8 MB of memory

by Keith Wright

> From: Chuck Homic <chuck(a)vvisions.com> > > On Sun, Sep 23, 2001 at 12:14:11PM -0400, Andy Stewart wrote: > > (yeah, quite a bottleneck...). > > Not really. There may be someone on this list who remembers sharing a 56K > modem 10 ways... :) We had that thing up 24/7 with auto-redial. If > you're using HTML-based websites (that is, no audio/vidio/multimedia) and > use fetchmail to bring your email messages to a local host, you'll never > notice that your internet connection is any less than badass. Smile, and they will thank you and think you are a wizard. Gumble about the modem, and you will have some geezer bending your ear about how he had to carry the paper tape from the lab to the post office. -- Keith

Sept. 23, 2001

Re: [Wlug] Firewall on 486 w/8 MB of memory

by Chuck Homic

On Sun, Sep 23, 2001 at 12:14:11PM -0400, Andy Stewart wrote: > The machine has a 56K modem in it for the Internet connection. It will be > used for light surfing and e-mail (as I understand it). There will be 2 > or 3 other machines on the net with it (yeah, quite a bottleneck...). Not really. There may be someone on this list who remembers sharing a 56K modem 10 ways... :) We had that thing up 24/7 with auto-redial. If you're using HTML-based websites (that is, no audio/vidio/multimedia) and use fetchmail to bring your email messages to a local host, you'll never notice that your internet connection is any less than badass. -Chuck

Sept. 23, 2001

Re: [Wlug] Firewall on 486 w/8 MB of memory

by Andy Stewart

Hi John et al, On Saturday 22 September 2001 12:39 pm, John Stoffel wrote: > Andy> As part of the Lancaster MA project, there is a 486 machine with > Andy> 8 MB of memory which we would like to make into a firewall. I'm > Andy> seeking recommendations on how best to do this. Are we memory > Andy> limited, or can this work, and if so, how? > > LRP is the way to go, it's a firewall on a floppy disk. I'm running > it at home and it's really nice. I saw several other recommendations for LRP, so I think we'll give that a try. > > What speed internet link are you talking about here? I might be able > to scrounge more memory and a P90-130 for you instead. Maybe. The machine has a 56K modem in it for the Internet connection. It will be used for light surfing and e-mail (as I understand it). There will be 2 or 3 other machines on the net with it (yeah, quite a bottleneck...). > > Andy> Can we put at least a minimal installation of something on this > Andy> machine, or are we going to have to explore the single floppy > Andy> firewall solutions such as the Linux Router project? > > It's not hard to do an LRP setup, and it's much more secure. You have > a problem, you reboot. The media is physically write protected. > > Andy> Finally, is there somebody who would like to volunteer for > Andy> Saturday 9/29 to explicitly help with solving this problem? > > Ummm... I might be able to help with this. John, that would be great if you were able to help out with this. Please let me know for sure. Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org

Sept. 23, 2001

Re: [Wlug] Firewall on 486 w/8 MB of memory

by cc.noyes

Linux Router Project is the way to go. You can get 'distros' for almost any thing. Check out lrp.c0wz.com, lrp.steinkuehler.net, www.linuxrouter.org. I use it and it's neat. No hard drive needed. Everything boots from a write-protected floppy. Includes a pretty good ipchains firewall. -Chuck James Baldassari wrote: > I've never used LRP before, but I've played around with ipchains under > RedHat 7.1, which are fairly easy to use and highly customizable. If you > need anyone else to help on Saturday, I might be able to stop by, but it's > parents' weekend, so I'm not sure. > -James > > -----Original Message----- > From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org]On > Behalf Of John Stoffel > Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2001 12:39 PM > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: Re: [Wlug] Firewall on 486 w/8 MB of memory > > Andy> As part of the Lancaster MA project, there is a 486 machine with > Andy> 8 MB of memory which we would like to make into a firewall. I'm > Andy> seeking recommendations on how best to do this. Are we memory > Andy> limited, or can this work, and if so, how? > > LRP is the way to go, it's a firewall on a floppy disk. I'm running > it at home and it's really nice. > > What speed internet link are you talking about here? I might be able > to scrounge more memory and a P90-130 for you instead. Maybe. > > Andy> Can we put at least a minimal installation of something on this > Andy> machine, or are we going to have to explore the single floppy > Andy> firewall solutions such as the Linux Router project? > > It's not hard to do an LRP setup, and it's much more secure. You have > a problem, you reboot. The media is physically write protected. > > Andy> Finally, is there somebody who would like to volunteer for > Andy> Saturday 9/29 to explicitly help with solving this problem? > > Ummm... I might be able to help with this. > > John > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Sept. 22, 2001

RE: [Wlug] Firewall on 486 w/8 MB of memory

by James Baldassari

I've never used LRP before, but I've played around with ipchains under RedHat 7.1, which are fairly easy to use and highly customizable. If you need anyone else to help on Saturday, I might be able to stop by, but it's parents' weekend, so I'm not sure. -James -----Original Message----- From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org]On Behalf Of John Stoffel Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2001 12:39 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Firewall on 486 w/8 MB of memory Andy> As part of the Lancaster MA project, there is a 486 machine with Andy> 8 MB of memory which we would like to make into a firewall. I'm Andy> seeking recommendations on how best to do this. Are we memory Andy> limited, or can this work, and if so, how? LRP is the way to go, it's a firewall on a floppy disk. I'm running it at home and it's really nice. What speed internet link are you talking about here? I might be able to scrounge more memory and a P90-130 for you instead. Maybe. Andy> Can we put at least a minimal installation of something on this Andy> machine, or are we going to have to explore the single floppy Andy> firewall solutions such as the Linux Router project? It's not hard to do an LRP setup, and it's much more secure. You have a problem, you reboot. The media is physically write protected. Andy> Finally, is there somebody who would like to volunteer for Andy> Saturday 9/29 to explicitly help with solving this problem? Ummm... I might be able to help with this. John _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Sept. 22, 2001

Re: [Wlug] Firewall on 486 w/8 MB of memory

by John Stoffel

Andy> As part of the Lancaster MA project, there is a 486 machine with Andy> 8 MB of memory which we would like to make into a firewall. I'm Andy> seeking recommendations on how best to do this. Are we memory Andy> limited, or can this work, and if so, how? LRP is the way to go, it's a firewall on a floppy disk. I'm running it at home and it's really nice. What speed internet link are you talking about here? I might be able to scrounge more memory and a P90-130 for you instead. Maybe. Andy> Can we put at least a minimal installation of something on this Andy> machine, or are we going to have to explore the single floppy Andy> firewall solutions such as the Linux Router project? It's not hard to do an LRP setup, and it's much more secure. You have a problem, you reboot. The media is physically write protected. Andy> Finally, is there somebody who would like to volunteer for Andy> Saturday 9/29 to explicitly help with solving this problem? Ummm... I might be able to help with this. John

Sept. 22, 2001

Firewall on 486 w/8 MB of memory

by Andy Stewart

HI gang, As part of the Lancaster MA project, there is a 486 machine with 8 MB of memory which we would like to make into a firewall. I'm seeking recommendations on how best to do this. Are we memory limited, or can this work, and if so, how? Can we put at least a minimal installation of something on this machine, or are we going to have to explore the single floppy firewall solutions such as the Linux Router project? Finally, is there somebody who would like to volunteer for Saturday 9/29 to explicitly help with solving this problem? Thanks, Andy -- Andy Stewart Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org

Sept. 22, 2001