June 2001 - WLUG - wlug.mailman3.com

Re: [Wlug] backup programs

by B.J. Herbison

What I would like to see in a backup program: o Simple configuration. o Simple operation -- insert bulk media and bootable media (floppy or CD to burn), and run the backup program with one parameter (the configuration name). Good logging, but ending with a clear "yes, this backup worked without any problems", or "no, you aren't safe yet". o Simple disaster recovery -- insert the bulk media and bootable media pair, turn on power, answer "yes" to "Is this a disaster recovery?" prompt, identify media, and everything gets restored. o Simple file restore -- to original location or parallel file tree. o Catalogs on tape and optionally on disk. The ability to copy take catalogs to disk. o Support for multiple operating systems/boots/file system types in one backup set. B.J. At 22:44 19-06-2001 -0400, you wrote: >Hi all, >I have noticed the lack of sufficient backup programs for >linux. A friend an i have decided to write our own. We have >come up with a good list of goals we want to hit. Before we >started seriously working on the design, i wanted to ask >the group of features they would like to see in a backup >systems. > >Thanks, >--Brad >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug -- B.J. Herbison / bj(a)herbison.com / http://www.herbison.com/herbison/bj.html The Next Asylum / 203 Long Hill Road / Bolton, MA 01740-1421 / +1 978 634-1061

June 20, 2001

Re: [Wlug] backup programs

by Andy Stewart

HI Brad, By "lack of sufficient backup programs", do you mean GPL programs? There are a few commercial offerings available such as BRU and Arkeia. Last I knew, Arkeia was available for free download for home use, but is not GPL software. OK, to answer your question about features that I like to see in a backup solution: o fits on a bootable floppy for disaster recovery o it would be nice if I didn't have to run through the whole tape to get one file restored. o GUI and command line (keeps everybody happy) o store a directory of files on the tape o sufficient error detection and corrections schemes to account for imperfect media o damaged media shouldn't prevent me from getting back the entire backup, just a file or two (unless of course the tape is shredded or something) o backup program does a read/verify to prove that the backup was really written correctly o ability to write backups to media other than tape, such as DVD-RAM or perhaps a hard disk partition That's just a few thoughts...perhaps they will stimulate some discussion. Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org

June 20, 2001

backup programs

by Brad Noyes

Hi all, I have noticed the lack of sufficient backup programs for linux. A friend an i have decided to write our own. We have come up with a good list of goals we want to hit. Before we started seriously working on the design, i wanted to ask the group of features they would like to see in a backup systems. Thanks, --Brad

June 20, 2001

Loki games for $9.99 or less

by Brian J. Conway

I came across this in a MandrakeForum.com article today. I figured that if anyone was interested in Quake III, Soldier of Fortune, or most of the other Loki games for $9.99 (or $4.99), then it's for you: http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/categories/products/deptpage.asp?web_dept=PC+Gam… -b

June 17, 2001

Re: [Wlug] GNU utils on Solaris 8

by Brian J. Conway

> Why use GNU binutils? Just install the Solaris 8 SUNWbtool and/or > SUNWbtoox (64-bit) packages. They install the toolchain utilities in > /usr/ccs/bin which GCC needs to create binaries. Thanks, I think I meant "or equivalent" with the equivalent being preferable, it was just badly phrased. -b

June 15, 2001

Re: [Wlug] GNU utils on Solaris 8

by Charles R. Anderson

Why use GNU binutils? Just install the Solaris 8 SUNWbtool and/or SUNWbtoox (64-bit) packages. They install the toolchain utilities in /usr/ccs/bin which GCC needs to create binaries. On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Brian J. Conway wrote: dogber> seem to hunt down all the GNU utilities that I need. The dogber> one that comes to mind off the top of my head is 'ar', dogber> which is part of binutils, and I can't compile binutils as dogber> it needs 'ar'. I've scoured www.sunfreeware.com to no dogber> avail (though there is some great stuff on there that I dogber> always snag), nor is there a version on my system already. dogber> Any ideas?

June 15, 2001

GNU utils on Solaris 8

by Brian J. Conway

Greetings. I'm once again picking up a project that I left off on now that Sun's site has updated the downloadble ISOs for Solaris 8 Intel to the 04/01 version. In the past I've gotten a decently customized install and had GCC and some other essentials loaded, but I can never seem to hunt down all the GNU utilities that I need. The one that comes to mind off the top of my head is 'ar', which is part of binutils, and I can't compile binutils as it needs 'ar'. I've scoured www.sunfreeware.com to no avail (though there is some great stuff on there that I always snag), nor is there a version on my system already. Any ideas? Brian J. Conway dogbert(a)clue4all.net Geek for hire: http://clue4all.net/resume Power Mac G4 Cube. Some of us are getting laid tonight. (http://www.pvponline.com/archive.php3?archive=20010509)

June 15, 2001

Re: [Wlug] vim errors

by Aaron Haviland

Brad Noyes said: > Yes, i think that you're right. I'm not sure what the term setting should be, > or even what it's used for. i'll look on the net for some info about it. > > unfortunatly i have to ues telnet becuase i can't assume that all machines that > all machines i will use will have ssh. There's a way around this, by putting a java applet on the webserver of the box you want ssh access to. Downside: it's GPL, and if you provide the applet, you have to provide the source. Also, could be considered as "exporting cryptography software" if the server is in the US. http://www.mindbright.com/products/mindterm/ v1.2.1 is GPL. other versions aren't free. This is what I use, but I don't stick it in a public place and I don't tell people about it... Hmmm. I'm gonna have to kill -9 $(pidof you) now. -- Orion orion [at] tribble [dot] dyndns [dot] org "Boys in bed, girls in bed All now go to sleep Sleep, sweet dreams Wake to a new today tomorrow"

June 14, 2001

Re: [Wlug] vim errors

by Brad Noyes

Yes, i think that you're right. I'm not sure what the term setting should be, or even what it's used for. i'll look on the net for some info about it. unfortunatly i have to ues telnet becuase i can't assume that all machines that all machines i will use will have ssh. On Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 12:53:27PM -0400, Aaron Haviland wrote: > Brad Noyes said: > > Hi all, > > I'm having troubles with using vim over a telnet session. When i telnet into > > my machine and start up vim it sits there for while, until i hit ctl-c, then > > i get this error > > > > Error detected while processing /usr/local/share/vim/vimrc > > Interrupted > > Error detected while processing /net/fire/home/bnoyes/.vimrc: > > > > regular VI works fine. vim works if i ssh into the host. vim also works fine > > if i telnet into the machine from windows (using putty). but no luck if i > > telnet from a linux machines. (btw. The host is unixware, that's a problem in > > itself). Any ideas? > > > > Thanks, > > --Brad > > Personally, I never use telnet, and I haven't run into this situation... > > But maybe this is a TERM setting problem? > > -- > Orion orion [at] tribble [dot] dyndns [dot] org > > PO ta to po ta to po ta to po > ta to po ta to po ta to po ta > to po ta to po ta to po ta to > po ta to po ta to po ta to > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

June 13, 2001

Re: [Wlug] vim errors

by Aaron Haviland

Brad Noyes said: > Hi all, > I'm having troubles with using vim over a telnet session. When i telnet into > my machine and start up vim it sits there for while, until i hit ctl-c, then > i get this error > > Error detected while processing /usr/local/share/vim/vimrc > Interrupted > Error detected while processing /net/fire/home/bnoyes/.vimrc: > > regular VI works fine. vim works if i ssh into the host. vim also works fine > if i telnet into the machine from windows (using putty). but no luck if i > telnet from a linux machines. (btw. The host is unixware, that's a problem in > itself). Any ideas? > > Thanks, > --Brad Personally, I never use telnet, and I haven't run into this situation... But maybe this is a TERM setting problem? -- Orion orion [at] tribble [dot] dyndns [dot] org PO ta to po ta to po ta to po ta to po ta to po ta to po ta to po ta to po ta to po ta to po ta to po ta to po ta to

June 13, 2001