November 2001 - WLUG - wlug.mailman3.com

Re: [Wlug] WLUG Meeting TONIGHT Wed Nov 14th

by Keith Wright

> From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)mediaone.net> > > Unfortunately, I will be unable to attend this evening's WLUG meeting due > to a rotten cold and a low grade fever which I seem to have picked up > somewhere. I will miss you, but it's too late to get another date, so I will be there anyway. Does anybody have a copy of Redhat 7.1? If you would bring it to the meeting I will trade it for a cash incentive or pay for your beer and pizza, at your option. I was planning to save postage by ordering 7.1 and 7.2 from cheapbytes at the same time. But as soon as 7.2 came out they quit offering 7.1. Hate to have a gap in my collecion. -- -- Keith Wright <kwright(a)free-comp-shop.com> Programmer in Chief, Free Computer Shop <http://www.free-comp-shop.com> --- Food, Shelter, Source code. ---

Nov. 14, 2001

WLUG Meeting TONIGHT Wed Nov 14th

by Andy Stewart

Hi Everybody, Unfortunately, I will be unable to attend this evening's WLUG meeting due to a rotten cold and a low grade fever which I seem to have picked up somewhere. I would encourage all of you to meet this evening, and some brave soul who has been in WLUG for a long time can get up and run the meeting in my absence. Have a beer for me at the Boynton! Here is what I had planned to report to the group this evening. I would like somebody to read this to the group in case folks haven't checked their e-mail before the meeting. 1) WLUG financials I have consolidated the accounts so that all of the WLUG money is in an account at the Lowell Five bank in Chelmsford, MA. I just paid the $50 fee to join the Boston User Groups as was voted at a previous WLUG meeting, and I wrote myself a $75 check for refreshments for the calendar year 2001. That leaves us with approx. $575.00 in the bank, which has been raised through your donations as well as install fest proceeds. 2) Annual Linux Showcase This event was not attended nearly as well as in past years, due in part to the fear of flying and by the fact that many computer people have been recently laid off. There were only half as many vendors as in the past, again due to the economy, I suspect. I found the quality of the techinical talks to be very good. I heard talk that there wouldn't be an ALS next year, but that Maddog was pushing for a small number of more local conferences, perhaps one in Boston. Some cool things which I saw at ALS: a) Linux running on a Compaq iPAQ, one running X and an xterm, the other running Qt Embedded with a bunch of PDA like applications. Refer to http://www.handhelds.org for more information. b) Latest versions of Gnome and KDE in action c) A large number of kernel hackers (including Linus) on one room d) A cluster of small embedded computers built by Los Alamos National Labs, all running Linux out of FLASH memory. e) A great beer selection at the Pacific Coast Brewing Company I personally spoke to Jim Gettys and a representative from the Free Software Foundation (I think his name was Brad, but I have his card). I might be able to get one or both of these folks to come to WLUG to give a talk in the future. I guess I'll have to save the freebies until next month. See ya later, and have a great meeting! Andy -- Andy Stewart Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org

Nov. 14, 2001

Fwd: CALL FOR PAPERS: '02 Usenix Annual Technical/Freenix

by Andy Stewart

---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: CALL FOR PAPERS: '02 Usenix Annual Technical/Freenix Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 10:49:16 -0800 From: Ann Tsai <ann(a)usenix.org> To: andystewart(a)mediaone.net ATTN:Worcester linux Users' Group Dear Andy, Below is a conference announcement and call for papers for the 2002 USENIX Annual Technical Conference/Freenix Program. Please let me know if you have a more appropriate method for submitting this information. Thank you for your assistance! Best Regards, Ann Tsai USENIX Association/SAGE 2560 Ninth Street, Suite 215 Berkeley, CA. 94710 ph (510) 528-8649 fx (510) 548-5738 www.usenix.org The 2002 USENIX Technical Conference program committee needs your help in developing the best technical conference program of 2002! 2002 USENIX Annual Technical Conference June 9-14, 2002 Monterey, CA http://www.usenix.org/events/usenix02/ The program committee seeks original and innovative papers about the applications, architecture, implementation, and performance of modern computing systems. Interesting application topics include, but are not limited to: *Cluster computing *File systems and storage systems *Complexity management *Distributed caching and replication *Mobile code *Mobile/Wireless computing *Networking and network services *Multimedia *Reliability and QoS *Security and privacy *Ubiquitous computing *usage studies *Web technologies *Energy/Power Management *Interoperability of heterogeneous systems Submissions to the General Refereed Sessions Track are due on November 19, 2001. We look forward to receiving your submissions! Carla Ellis, Duke University Program Chair ------------------------------------------------------- 2002 Freenix Program Share your expertise with the open source/freely available software community by submitting a paper to the 2002 FREENIX program. The submission deadline has been extended until November 19th, 2001. Submission guidelines and sample abstracts are available on our Web site: http://www.usenix.org/events/usenix02/cfp/ FREENIX is a special track within the USENIX Annual Technical Conference that showcases the latest developments and applications in freely-redistributed technology. The FREENIX track covers the full range of software and source code including, but not limited to Apache, Darwin, FreeBSD, GNOME, GNU, KDE, Linux, NetBSD, OpenBSD, Perl, PHP, Python, Samba, Tcl/Tk and more. Areas of interest include, but are not limited to: *Cross-platform source portability and binary compatibility *Desktop metaphors *Distributed and parallel systems *Documentation *File system design *Highly-available systems *Graphical user interface tools *Storage Systems *Highly-scalable and clustered systems *Security *System and user management tools *Quality Assurance *Large scale system management *Print Systems *Free Software development/mgmt *Operating system design *Interesting deployments of free software We look forward to receiving your submissions! Chris Demetriou, Broadcom Corp. Freenix Track Program Chair Carla Ellis, Duke University Program Chair -- Ann Tsai Marketing Coordinator Usenix Association 510-528-8649 x31 ann(a)usenix.org ------------------------------------------------------- -- Andy Stewart Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org

Nov. 14, 2001

REMINDER: Meeting Wednesday, Nov 14th 7:00 PM

by Andy Stewart

HI everybody, This is a friendly reminder about the upcoming WLUG meeting, to be held on Wednesday, Nov. 14th, at 7:00 PM in Kinnicutt Hall on the WPI campus in Worcester, MA, USA. On the agenda for this meeting: 0) Update on the WLUG financial situation 1) My trip report from the recently held Annual Linux Showcase in Oakland, CA, USA 2) My stories about "airport hell" (the new security at airports) and deep sea fishing on the Pacific Ocean (or, how I paddled like crazy so we wouldn't hit the jetty when the engine died). 3) Lots of freebies from ALS - many will be given away at this meeting, including a couple of tee shirts, bags, Borland Kylix (for Linux) and Delphi (for Windows) CDs, SuSE Live Eval CDs, LNX-BBC CDs, and more! 4) Items from the audience - Q/A, etc. 5) "Refreshments" at the Boynton Restaurant after the meeting See ya there! -- Andy Stewart Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org

Nov. 13, 2001

Re: [Wlug] installing Bugzilla

by Chad Pytel

I've installed Bugzilla before, and evaluated the install, and the package itself. I found the install document altogether straightforward and on a more up-to-date distribution than the one I used, (I needed to update several packages for MySQL and some perl modules, on RH6.2) the install should be fairly easy for someone with a medium amount of Linux experience. -Chad On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Rick Gansler wrote: > I missed the last install-fest, and am anxiously awaiting the next one. I'm > considering deploying Bugzilla in my group, and was wondering if anyone has > experience installing it, or even opinions about using it. > > The doc sends mixed messages about the complexity of the install: > > "Bugzilla is not a package where you can just plop it in a directory, > twiddle a few things, and you're off." > > and then later on... > > "Installation of Bugzilla is pretty straightforward." > > The doc also makes it pretty clear that it'll run on Windows, but that > there's additional complexity. It even sounds like it'll be easier to > install on OSX than on Win2k, and that's fine with me. > > thanks in advance for any opinions, > Rick Gansler > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Nov. 12, 2001

installing Bugzilla

by Rick Gansler

I missed the last install-fest, and am anxiously awaiting the next one. I'm considering deploying Bugzilla in my group, and was wondering if anyone has experience installing it, or even opinions about using it. The doc sends mixed messages about the complexity of the install: "Bugzilla is not a package where you can just plop it in a directory, twiddle a few things, and you're off." and then later on... "Installation of Bugzilla is pretty straightforward." The doc also makes it pretty clear that it'll run on Windows, but that there's additional complexity. It even sounds like it'll be easier to install on OSX than on Win2k, and that's fine with me. thanks in advance for any opinions, Rick Gansler

Nov. 12, 2001

RE: [Wlug] DCHP Private IP Hostname Resolution

by Keller, Tim

Gary, I own the same router as you and I've got 2 linux boxes (one is pure, the other is duel boot). I just have static host files because the router has a sane DHCP server that assigns based on MAC address, so all your machines will keep the same address, regardless of OS. Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Gary J. Hanley [mailto:ghanley@world.std.com] Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 10:19 AM To: WLUG Subject: [Wlug] DCHP Private IP Hostname Resolution Greetings, I suspect this is an easy fix but somehow I can't find it.... I just installed a Netgear RP114 DSL router and I'm letting it set my private IPs with DCHP. My problem is that I need to resolve the hostnames between the 3 Linux machines on my private lan and the router isn't doing that. When they are booted in Windows the DCHP table shows the IP and hostname of each PC, but when booted in Linux the router doesn't resolve the hostname to IP...so when I ping a hostname I get nothing. Any ideas? Thanks! -- Gary _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Nov. 12, 2001

DCHP Private IP Hostname Resolution

by doug waud

Hi again I think we may be almost there! :-) > Unfortunately I can't modify any DCHP config > settings in the router To be honest, I had been having another "senior moment" and was picturing and old Linux box as the router! I really must learn how to read. :-) > so I have to find a way to > either get the Linux PCs to report their host names to the router or have > the router find the hostname from the PC. > > When booted in Windows they do that but in Linux they do not. It suddenly occurred to me that this must be the clue. So I went to the man page for dhcpcd (one dhcp client daemon) and found there is both a -H switch, which forces a hostname to that supplied by the server and a -h switch which sends the hostname to the server. I suspect the latter is what windows is already doing. (I mention the former as a reserve in case the -h does not turn out to work.) I also looked at my router (a Linux box) which happens to be using dhclient (another dhcp client daemon) and in its /etc/dhclient.conf there is a place where you can insert send host-name "box1.localdomain" which, it would appear, would do the same thing as above. (I should warn you that I am using SuSE so my /etc/dhclient.conf file may have a lot of stuff in it which is not usually there (SuSE is very good this way; they put it all in and then all you have to do is remove a comment and/or change some text. But the basic behavior of dhclient should be the same.) I'll stop here since I don't know what dhcp client you are using, but I think we are actually knocking on the door! > Of course I can always go back to a static IP and I might just ultimately do > that, but I'd like to know if there is a way to make this work. That is what has got me hooked! doug

Nov. 11, 2001

Re: [Wlug] Raw IO Howto

by Skip Gaede

On Sunday 11 November 2001 11:53 am, Jeff Moyer wrote: > sgaede> I don't understand why the output says /dev/*raw*/raw1 is bound > sgaede> when I said /dev/raw1? > > buggy error message. Open /dev/raw1 in your case. Also, when > doing IO to a raw device, the buffer you pass in needs to be > aligned on an 512 byte boundary. Most likely this is your problem. > If you would like I can send you some sample code to align your > buffs. > > - -Jeff Folks, It works, and in case someone else wants to try it out ... NOTE: this is to an IOMEGA ATAPI ZIP 100 drive, not a "real" disk! --Skip /* * a simple program showing how to do raw character-based IO to a device, * bypassing the kernel's queueing algorithm. The data is not copied to * kernel space. Instead, the user pages are mapped instead. root:/home/skip# gcc -o rwtest rwtest.c root:/home/skip# time ./rwtest (/dev/hdc1, O_SYNC) real 0m25.084s user 0m0.000s sys 0m0.000s root:/home/skip# gcc -o rwtest rwtest.c root:/home/skip# time ./rwtest (/dev/raw1) real 0m20.558s // 20% performance boost user 0m0.000s sys 0m0.050s root:/home/skip# root:/home/skip# gcc -o rwtest rwtest.c root:/home/skip# time ./rwtest (/dev/hdc1, no O_SYNC) real 0m0.112s // this really helps measure performance, no! user 0m0.010s sys 0m0.000s root:/home/skip# Thanks to Jeff Moyer <moyer(a)missioncriticallinux.com> for pointing out the need to have the buffer page alligned. */ #include <stdio.h> #include <sys/types.h> #include <unistd.h> #include <sys/stat.h> #include <fcntl.h> #include <time.h> int main (void) { int fd1,fd2; static unsigned char block[8192]; void *bp = (void *)((long) &block & 0xfffff000); // allign on page boundary int reads=0, writes=0; int k; time_t ticks; fd1 = open("/dev/raw1",O_CREAT|O_RDWR); if (fd1 < 0) { printf("Can't open /dev/raw1\n"); perror("rwtest: "); return 1; } for(k=0;k<1000;k++) { int count; if (k) { lseek( fd1, 0, SEEK_SET); } if (k % 2) { /* write */ count = write( fd1, bp, 1024); } else { /* read */ count = read( fd1, bp, 1024); } if (count != 1024) { printf("k = %d, Count = %d\n", k, count); return 2; } } close(fd1); return 0; }

Nov. 11, 2001

Re: [Wlug] Raw IO Howto

by Jeff Moyer

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 ==> Regarding Re: [Wlug] Raw IO Howto; Skip Gaede <sgaede(a)mediaone.net> adds: sgaede> On Friday 09 November 2001 10:31 pm, you wrote: >> Can you do a >> >> bash$raw -qa >> >> as root and post the output. root> /usr/src/linux# raw /dev/raw1 /dev/hdc1 sgaede> /dev/raw/raw1: bound to major 22, minor 1 ok. root> /usr/src/linux# raw -qa sgaede> /dev/raw/raw1: bound to major 22, minor 1 sgaede> I don't understand why the output says /dev/*raw*/raw1 is bound sgaede> when I said /dev/raw1? buggy error message. Open /dev/raw1 in your case. Also, when doing IO to a raw device, the buffer you pass in needs to be aligned on an 512 byte boundary. Most likely this is your problem. If you would like I can send you some sample code to align your buffs. - -Jeff -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.6 and Gnu Privacy Guard <http://www.gnupg.org/> iEYEARECAAYFAjvurPgACgkQH/inyh944bRjywCggJWGfycPznp7f8iLgdqBk5E1 AHoAn2ZaNqbhRs5ouatx08qoPVkpTZVN =/FIf -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Nov. 11, 2001