October 2001 - WLUG - wlug.mailman3.com

Message Archive for this list?

by Sands Fish

Hello all, Just wondering if there are any plans to archive any of the messages on this list. I know that there have been issues discussed before that are long gone that I will run into in the near future. Seems like having an archive of the topics we've helped each other with would be extremely useful. Is the hardware available? I guess this would mainly be directed toward Andy. Any comments? - Sands <>< - SandsFish(a)ArtKillsYuppieBabies.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1

Oct. 8, 2001

Re: [Wlug] ATAPI (internal) ZIP drive

by Chuck Homic

On Mon, Oct 08, 2001 at 10:51:02AM -0400, Skip Gaede wrote: > The drives are being supported as ide-scsi devices. Parameters passed in at > boot time include hda=scsi and hdc=scsi I can't imagine that working! :) The kernel still has to access the drives using IDE. The SCSI emulation is just a hack to make the devices look like SCSI to the user layer. Just start the system normally using the ide support, and make sure you can access your devices with IDE. (Using the ide-cd module. You ARE using modules for everything, right??? :) ) If that works, then unload ide-cd, and install ide-scsi and sr_mod (and whatver dependencies, etc...) You should now be able to access your cdrom drive with sr0, sr1 or whatever. I don't know how it will work for the Zip drive, but the idea should be the same. However, I don't know if you'll be able to support it using SCSI emu without building more kernel modules. I don't think there's any compelling reason to use SCSI emu on it anyway, since you can just use direct IDE ATAPI support for the Zip drive. (I did this many years ago with an ATAPI Zip drive and kernel 2.0 without a hitch.) -Chuck

Oct. 8, 2001

Re: [Wlug] ATAPI (internal) ZIP drive

by John Stoffel

Skip> I upgraded my system to a new MLB and a faster CPU. With the new Skip> board, I can't read or write to my ZIP drive (under Linux). I Skip> have a SCSI system, with an Adaptec 78xx controller, an Adaptec Skip> RW CDROM (also ATAPI), and the ZIP drive. Skip> Kernel: 2.4.10 I'd probably not use 2.4.10, it's got quite a few problems. Either 2.4.11-pre[45] or use the 2.4.10-acX kernels, they're more stable at this point. Skip> Under ATAPI, I've checked only use SCSI emulation and under SCSI Skip> I've checked SCSI CDROM. Is it compiled into the kernel or is it modules? Skip> My board has both conventional ATA connectors and PROMISE ATA100 Skip> connectors. The CDROM is attached to the conventional primary Skip> controller as master and the ZIP is attached to the secondary Skip> controller as master. What does dmesg say? Does it even see the device? Can you access the CDROM properly? Skip> The drives are being supported as ide-scsi devices. Parameters Skip> passed in at boot time include hda=scsi and hdc=scsi We need more info really. John John Stoffel - Senior Unix Systems Administrator - Lucent Technologies stoffel(a)lucent.com - http://www.lucent.com - 978-952-7548

Oct. 8, 2001

ATAPI (internal) ZIP drive

by Skip Gaede

I need help! I upgraded my system to a new MLB and a faster CPU. With the new board, I can't read or write to my ZIP drive (under Linux). I have a SCSI system, with an Adaptec 78xx controller, an Adaptec RW CDROM (also ATAPI), and the ZIP drive. Kernel: 2.4.10 Under ATAPI, I've checked only use SCSI emulation and under SCSI I've checked SCSI CDROM. My board has both conventional ATA connectors and PROMISE ATA100 connectors. The CDROM is attached to the conventional primary controller as master and the ZIP is attached to the secondary controller as master. The drives are being supported as ide-scsi devices. Parameters passed in at boot time include hda=scsi and hdc=scsi Anyone have any ideas? Thanks, Skip

Oct. 8, 2001

Recycling electronics

by Michelle Vadeboncoeur

Just to note, I just found this page from Consumer Reports about sites that'll help you find your nearest steel and electronic-goods recycling center (for all of you with aged equipment and dead VCRs and the like...): http://www.consumerreports.org/main/detail.jsp?CONTENT%3C%3Ecnt_id=102315&F… -- --==*==-- --==*==-- Michelle R. Vadeboncoeur --==*==-- --==*==-- mrv(a)kluge.net: http://www.kluge.net/~mrv/

Oct. 8, 2001

Re: [Wlug] Email reader...

by William Smith

On Fri, 5 Oct 2001, Stephen C. Daukas wrote: SCD>Well, as it turns out, the version of KMail that comes with RH 7.1 is SCD>threaded, and very different from the version included with RH 6.2. So far, SCD>a pretty good mailer... Still interested in your recommendations! i've grown attached to Sylpheed. it's available at http://sylpheed.good-day.net/ ... it's certainly worth looking at. (having SAID that, i'm using Pine right now 'cause i'm on a WinDOZE box at home. <sigh>) -- William Smith wsmith(a)chezsmith.com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com

Oct. 8, 2001

Re: [Wlug] Vunerable Machine

by Tom Guilderson

Marc Hughes wrote: > > It's not my box, so I need to be sensitive of the office politics so > no one says something like, "Well, since we can't secure linux, NO MORE > LINUX" > > h4x0rs? And I guess an even bigger concern is the office politics > things. How do I bring this to the big-wigs in a "good" light? Rather that highlight that you think the box may have been compromised (because if it has it may be too late, but since the box has been running for some time it will likely continue to run for another week or two), the best approach is likely to indicate that it is time to update the software on the box; indicate that there are updated versions of the SMTP and POP servers availabe at no cost to your company. Also mention that there are also some other tools that could be installed to improve security. Don't raise what could be a false alarm by saying that the box is completely unsafe and should be immediately pulled from the network (then all MS Windows IIS boxes should be pulled according to Gartner who has been accused of being in bed with Redmond at times). Since you have more familiarity with Linux than the current maintainer - offer to head up the effort and put together a small project plan including the transition and training of the webmaster (make your life easier later by spending the time now to train the webmaster and put together some simple easy to use documentation)(not knowing your environment that could be as simple as a todo list on a napkin to a detailed plan with impact checklists etc). Rather than highlight the security holes that you know exist - HIGHLIGHT THE IMPROVEMENTS YOU WILL BE MAKING AND THE IMPROVED SECURITY YOU WILL BE PUTTING IN PLACE. Avoid getting overly technical, use simple easy to understand arguments that highlight the benefits of your proposed improvments. Make sure that the "group" taht owns the machine feels you are helping them, and not taking over for them. You need to make sure that they still feel that they are in control. You need to remain calm and show confidence in the previous choice in using Linux and use this as an oppurtunity to show the support the open source community provides with the constant improvements that are made to open source software. Also insure that you get the webmaster checking the CERT advisories for the software exposed (another reason you need good docs with version and basic config of sendmail etc.). Another great thing is that you can show that the company will not have to outlay any cash - since the software is free. They will have the time to update the software - but think about the time to update if you were running exchange on nt? Either way that is a given. Use the opportunity to highlight the benefits of open source, not the dangers of the internet! Best of luck!

Oct. 6, 2001

Re: [Wlug] Email reader...

by Skip Gaede

On Friday 05 October 2001 05:16 pm, Stephen C. Daukas wrote: > Well, as it turns out, the version of KMail that comes with RH 7.1 is > threaded, and very different from the version included with RH 6.2. So > far, a pretty good mailer... Still interested in your recommendations! The one with KDE 2.2.1 is even better!

Oct. 6, 2001

Re: [Wlug] RedHat Apps CD

by Charles R . Anderson

On Fri, Oct 05, 2001 at 05:54:29PM -0400, Bill Mills-Curran wrote: subssn594> I'm trying to burn a CD from the RedHat 7.1 distro. However the CD has a subssn594> bunch of hardlinked files that, if the files get copied as duplicates subssn594> instead of hardlinks, makes the CD too big. The mkisofs command generates subssn594> copies. I'm going to try to mount the iso image file and manipulate it subssn594> manually, but I don't know if this is right. You can't mount an ISO image file read/write and manipulate it. Are you building an ISO image from a directory tree full of files, or did you get the ISO file directly from an FTP site? Usually getting the original ISO is the best way to do things, so you get an exact replica of the original CD. If you are copying a physical CD, the best way is just like this: cdrecord -v dev=/dev/sgc speed=4 /dev/scd0 assuming /dev/scd0 contains the source CD and /dev/sgc is the CD writer device. Set the speed to only as fast as the source CD drive is. If you only have one CD-ROM drive, this obviously won't work, so you would need to 'dd' the image to disk first: dd if=/dev/scd0 of=rh71apps.iso then cdrecord that file. -- Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886

Oct. 5, 2001

RedHat Apps CD

by Bill Mills-Curran

I'm trying to burn a CD from the RedHat 7.1 distro. However the CD has a bunch of hardlinked files that, if the files get copied as duplicates instead of hardlinks, makes the CD too big. The mkisofs command generates copies. I'm going to try to mount the iso image file and manipulate it manually, but I don't know if this is right. Suggestions? Thanks, Bill

Oct. 5, 2001