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Re: [Wlug] ATAPI (internal) ZIP drive

by John Stoffel

Skip> I'm still stumped. I have a "spare" partition into which I can Skip> install a standard distro, and I dropped back to a Mandrake 8.0 Skip> distro I downloaded a few months ago. The distro is based on the Skip> 2.4.3 kernel. After rebooting into Mandrake, I find I'm still Skip> unable to read or format the Zip drive. I also have a BSD 4.3 CD Skip> here as well, but I think it must be something obvious we are Skip> overlooking. You don't need to drop distributions to use a new kernel, you can just download it and compile it, update /etc/lilo.conf to see the new kernel images and reboot. Skip> The Mandrake passes the Zip drive off to ide-floppy and the CDRW Skip> off to ide-scsi. Skip> What's a body to do? Just stay with ide-floppy for the Zip drive? That should work just fine. Or are you set on having a totally SCSI looking system? It's hard for me to help since I don't have a Zip drive of my own to play with. John x27548

Oct. 9, 2001

RE: [Wlug] Unix Timezone Settings

by Simoncini, Matthew

Hey folks ... meant to answer this question last week, but here is a doc i found at the Sun web site: Hope it helps. -----Original Message----- From: Keith Wright [mailto:kwright@gis.net] Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 8:25 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Unix Timezone Settings Did anybody answer this? I didn't see it. Just to show cc.noyes that we aren't ignoring em, I guess I'd better answer even though I don't know. > From: "cc.noyes" <vze284qe(a)verizon.net> > > Some Unix's (SCO Unixware for one...) uses a timezone setting in > /etc/TZ. What's the relationship between the timezone setting and the > local time? I assume the timezone is set to the local timezone (in our > case GMT+5 or US/EASTERN), but what about setting the local time? Don't know /etc/TZ. Yes, the timezone is the difference between local civil time and Universal Coordinated Time, abbreviated UTC to please the French, who refused to call it Greenwich Mean Time. What do you mean by setting local time? I have never done anything I would describe that way. > Should I set it to GMT and let the timezone offset make the adjustment > to the correct local time, or do I set the local time to the correct > local time? And if I do that, what's the purpose of the timezone > setting? I can't find where Linux uses a timezone setting. Set local time to GMT? Sounds wrong---what could it mean? Maybe you are talking about the CMOS clock on a ``standard'' ``IBM'' ``PC''. I set that in the BIOS to UTC. The TZ environment variable gives the name of the local timezone for each user, so that if people are logged on from around the world, they all get times displayed in their own local time. I think the default time zone is set in the boot scripts, which vary between distributions. There may also be a default default set when you compile the C library. What?---You don't compile your own C library before you build a kernel? RedHat, at least, asks you questions about where you live when you install the OS Try man date man hwclock man tzset man tzfile http://www.iers.org for more than you want to know. -- -- Keith Wright <kwright(a)free-comp-shop.com> Programmer in Chief, Free Computer Shop <http://www.free-comp-shop.com> --- Food, Shelter, Source code. --- _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Oct. 9, 2001

Re: [Wlug] Unix Timezone Settings

by Keith Wright

Did anybody answer this? I didn't see it. Just to show cc.noyes that we aren't ignoring em, I guess I'd better answer even though I don't know. > From: "cc.noyes" <vze284qe(a)verizon.net> > > Some Unix's (SCO Unixware for one...) uses a timezone setting in > /etc/TZ. What's the relationship between the timezone setting and the > local time? I assume the timezone is set to the local timezone (in our > case GMT+5 or US/EASTERN), but what about setting the local time? Don't know /etc/TZ. Yes, the timezone is the difference between local civil time and Universal Coordinated Time, abbreviated UTC to please the French, who refused to call it Greenwich Mean Time. What do you mean by setting local time? I have never done anything I would describe that way. > Should I set it to GMT and let the timezone offset make the adjustment > to the correct local time, or do I set the local time to the correct > local time? And if I do that, what's the purpose of the timezone > setting? I can't find where Linux uses a timezone setting. Set local time to GMT? Sounds wrong---what could it mean? Maybe you are talking about the CMOS clock on a ``standard'' ``IBM'' ``PC''. I set that in the BIOS to UTC. The TZ environment variable gives the name of the local timezone for each user, so that if people are logged on from around the world, they all get times displayed in their own local time. I think the default time zone is set in the boot scripts, which vary between distributions. There may also be a default default set when you compile the C library. What?---You don't compile your own C library before you build a kernel? RedHat, at least, asks you questions about where you live when you install the OS Try man date man hwclock man tzset man tzfile http://www.iers.org for more than you want to know. -- -- Keith Wright <kwright(a)free-comp-shop.com> Programmer in Chief, Free Computer Shop <http://www.free-comp-shop.com> --- Food, Shelter, Source code. ---

Oct. 9, 2001

Re: [Wlug] ATAPI (internal) ZIP drive

by Skip Gaede

On Monday 08 October 2001 02:40 pm, John Stoffel wrote: > Skip> I've tried it both ways. I was thinking of trying to build a > Skip> Linux distro on my Zip drive so I could use the partition for my > Skip> home directory. I can see the drive and fdisk it. When I try to > Skip> do a mke2fs /dev/sdc4 the process hangs up when it tries to > Skip> write out the accounting information. > > I think this might be the kicker here. For 2.4.10 Linus merged in > some changes to move stuff from the block cache to the page cache, > unfortunately not everything was merged properl and there are > problems. > > I'd really suggest you try 2.4.10-acX or 2.4.11-preX where X is the > highest number you can find. Then you should be all set. > Hi John, I'm still stumped. I have a "spare" partition into which I can install a standard distro, and I dropped back to a Mandrake 8.0 distro I downloaded a few months ago. The distro is based on the 2.4.3 kernel. After rebooting into Mandrake, I find I'm still unable to read or format the Zip drive. I also have a BSD 4.3 CD here as well, but I think it must be something obvious we are overlooking. The Mandrake passes the Zip drive off to ide-floppy and the CDRW off to ide-scsi. What's a body to do? --Skip

Oct. 8, 2001

Re: [Wlug] ATAPI (internal) ZIP drive

by Skip Gaede

On Monday 08 October 2001 02:40 pm, John Stoffel wrote: > Skip> I've tried it both ways. I was thinking of trying to build a > Skip> Linux distro on my Zip drive so I could use the partition for my > Skip> home directory. I can see the drive and fdisk it. When I try to > Skip> do a mke2fs /dev/sdc4 the process hangs up when it tries to > Skip> write out the accounting information. > > I think this might be the kicker here. For 2.4.10 Linus merged in > some changes to move stuff from the block cache to the page cache, > unfortunately not everything was merged properl and there are > problems. > > I'd really suggest you try 2.4.10-acX or 2.4.11-preX where X is the > highest number you can find. Then you should be all set. > Hi John, I'm still stumped. I have a "spare" partition into which I can install a standard distro, and I dropped back to a Mandrake 8.0 distro I downloaded a few months ago. The distro is based on the 2.4.3 kernel. After rebooting into Mandrake, I find I'm still unable to read or format the Zip drive. I also have a BSD 4.3 CD here as well, but I think it must be something obvious we are overlooking. The Mandrake passes the Zip drive off to ide-floppy and the CDRW off to ide-scsi. What's a body to do? --Skip

Oct. 8, 2001

Re: [Wlug] Vunerable Machine

by Mike Peckar

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Oct. 8, 2001

Re: [Wlug] ATAPI (internal) ZIP drive

by John Stoffel

Skip> I've tried it both ways. I was thinking of trying to build a Skip> Linux distro on my Zip drive so I could use the partition for my Skip> home directory. I can see the drive and fdisk it. When I try to Skip> do a mke2fs /dev/sdc4 the process hangs up when it tries to Skip> write out the accounting information. I think this might be the kicker here. For 2.4.10 Linus merged in some changes to move stuff from the block cache to the page cache, unfortunately not everything was merged properl and there are problems. I'd really suggest you try 2.4.10-acX or 2.4.11-preX where X is the highest number you can find. Then you should be all set. Also, try the suggestions the other guy made about accessing the Zip via IDE first, and if that works, try the ide-scsi stuff. John

Oct. 8, 2001

Re: [Wlug] Message Archive for this list?

by Sands Fish

HAHAHAHA, apparently I did. Thanx. :) - Sands <>< --- Michelle Vadeboncoeur <mrv(a)kluge.net> wrote: > On Mon, 8 Oct 2001, Sands Fish wrote: > > SF> Just wondering if there are any plans to > archive > SF> any of the messages on this list. I know that > there > > In case you missed it: > http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/ > > >From http://www.wlug.org/ , go to the "WLUG Mailing > List" link in the > navigation bar, then to the "WLUG Archives" link. > > -- > --==*==-- --==*==-- Michelle R. Vadeboncoeur > --==*==-- --==*==-- > mrv(a)kluge.net: > http://www.kluge.net/~mrv/ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1

Oct. 8, 2001

Re: [Wlug] ATAPI (internal) ZIP drive

by Skip Gaede

Thanks, John. I didn't know what info would be useful, so I threw in the kitchen sink. I'll answer the questions below. On Monday 08 October 2001 11:24 am, you wrote: > Skip> I upgraded my system to a new MLB and a faster CPU. With the new > Skip> board, I can't read or write to my ZIP drive (under Linux). I > Skip> have a SCSI system, with an Adaptec 78xx controller, an Adaptec > Skip> RW CDROM (also ATAPI), and the ZIP drive. > > Skip> Kernel: 2.4.10 > > I'd probably not use 2.4.10, it's got quite a few problems. Either > 2.4.11-pre[45] or use the 2.4.10-acX kernels, they're more stable at > this point. > > Skip> Under ATAPI, I've checked only use SCSI emulation and under SCSI > Skip> I've checked SCSI CDROM. > > Is it compiled into the kernel or is it modules? I've tried it both ways. I was thinking of trying to build a Linux distro on my Zip drive so I could use the partition for my home directory. I can see the drive and fdisk it. When I try to do a mke2fs /dev/sdc4 the process hangs up when it tries to write out the accounting information. > > Skip> My board has both conventional ATA connectors and PROMISE ATA100 > Skip> connectors. The CDROM is attached to the conventional primary > Skip> controller as master and the ZIP is attached to the secondary > Skip> controller as master. > > What does dmesg say? Does it even see the device? Can you access the > CDROM properly? CDROM is working for playing audio and for reading data. I've installed cdrecord, and I can see the device when I do a scanbus /dev/sr0:1,1,0 so I think it's OK. Here's the current dmesg output: ========================================================= Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 6.31 ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx VP_IDE: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 21 VP_IDE: chipset revision 6 VP_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later VP_IDE: VIA vt82c686b (rev 40) IDE UDMA100 controller on pci00:04.1 ide0: BM-DMA at 0xd800-0xd807, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio ide1: BM-DMA at 0xd808-0xd80f, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:pio PDC20265: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 88 PCI: Found IRQ 10 for device 00:11.0 PDC20265: chipset revision 2 PDC20265: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later PDC20265: (U)DMA Burst Bit ENABLED Primary PCI Mode Secondary PCI Mode. ide2: BM-DMA at 0x8000-0x8007, BIOS settings: hde:pio, hdf:pio ide3: BM-DMA at 0x8008-0x800f, BIOS settings: hdg:pio, hdh:pio hda: Hewlett-Packard CD-Writer Plus 9100b, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive hdc: IOMEGA ZIP 100 ATAPI Floppy, ATAPI FLOPPY drive ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15 Partition check: hdc:<3>ide-scsi: hdc: unsupported command in request queue (0) end_request: I/O error, dev 16:00 (hdc), sector 0 unable to read partition table ========================================================= At this point, I had the media in the drive, but it did not have a valid filesystem on it. More output from dmesg: ====================================================== SCSI subsystem driver Revision: 1.00 PCI: Found IRQ 3 for device 00:0a.0 PCI: Sharing IRQ 3 with 00:04.5 scsi0 : Adaptec AIC7XXX EISA/VLB/PCI SCSI HBA DRIVER, Rev 6.2.1 <Adaptec 2940 Ultra SCSI adapter> aic7880: Ultra Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs (scsi0:A:0:0): Target Initiated PPR Vendor: COMPAQPC Model: MAG3182MP Rev: 1806 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 (scsi0:A:0): 20.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit) Vendor: COMPAQ Model: BD009222BB Rev: 3B07 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 (scsi0:A:1): 20.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit) Vendor: SONY Model: SDT-5000 Rev: 3.30 Type: Sequential-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 (scsi0:A:2): 5.000MB/s transfers (5.000MHz, offset 8) Vendor: HP Model: C5110A Rev: 3638 Type: Processor ANSI SCSI revision: 02 scsi0:0:0:0: Tagged Queuing enabled. Depth 253 scsi0:0:1:0: Tagged Queuing enabled. Depth 253 scsi1 : SCSI host adapter emulation for IDE ATAPI devices Vendor: IOMEGA Model: ZIP 100 Rev: 14.A Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 00 Vendor: HP Model: CD-Writer+ 9100b Rev: 1.06 Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02 st: Version 20010812, bufsize 32768, wrt 30720, max init. bufs 4, s/g segs 16 Attached scsi tape st0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 2, lun 0 Attached scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 Attached scsi disk sdb at scsi0, channel 0, id 1, lun 0 Attached scsi removable disk sdc at scsi1, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 SCSI device sda: 35566000 512-byte hdwr sectors (18210 MB) sda: sda1 sda2 < sda5 sda6 > SCSI device sdb: 17773524 512-byte hdwr sectors (9100 MB) sdb: sdb1 sdb2 < sdb5 sdb6 sdb7 sdb8 sdb9 > SCSI device sdc: 196576 512-byte hdwr sectors (101 MB) sdc: Write Protect is off sdc: sdc4 Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi1, channel 0, id 1, lun 0 sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 32x/32x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.12 Attached scsi generic sg3 at scsi0, channel 0, id 5, lun 0, type 3 ====================================================== The sg3 device is a Scanner.

Oct. 8, 2001

Re: [Wlug] Message Archive for this list?

by Michelle Vadeboncoeur

On Mon, 8 Oct 2001, Sands Fish wrote: SF> Just wondering if there are any plans to archive SF> any of the messages on this list. I know that there In case you missed it: http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/

Oct. 8, 2001