Re: Hierarchical note taking, Joplin, Trilium, browser extensions, etc..
Sadly no. I've looked at DokuWiki a couple of times. The problem is this. I'm lazy. The lowest barrier to entry is simply a directory called "Notes" with a bunch of text files. Being text and using a unix-like system, I've got tools like grep to find stuff. I figure the next lowest thing is some program that lets me take notes that I can then organize into some index and search against it as well. Beyond that now it becomes hosted somewhere, etc. Tim. On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 10:35 AM Mike Peckar <mpeckar@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Tim,
I might have missed it, but I'm curious if you came to any conclusions about these tools.
thanks, Mike
On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 9:31 PM Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug@lists.wlug.org> wrote:
At last night's meeting, a new attendee brought up a problem she was having and one of the solutions that got bandied about was Joplin.
After doing some research, this might be my new note taking app. Another very interesting FOSS tool out there is called "Trilium" https://github.com/zadam/trilium
As much as I like google's keep.. I'm fully aware that google capable of just pulling the rug out from under me in a moment's notice.
I've spun up U22.04.3 server and I'm going to tinker with Joplin and possibly Trilium and let people know what I think of them.
Tim.
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"Tim" == Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug@lists.wlug.org> writes:
Sadly no. I've looked at DokuWiki a couple of times.
I've *run* dokuwiki and mediawiki for $WORK a couple of times... but never used them in anger either.
The problem is this. I'm lazy. The lowest barrier to entry is simply a directory called "Notes" with a bunch of text files. Being text and using a unix-like system, I've got tools like grep to find stuff.
Me too, I have *tons* of files will all kinds of notes and ideas. Works great from a GUI login, and also works from an SSH text only connection as well.
I figure the next lowest thing is some program that lets me take notes that I can then organize into some index and search against it as well. Beyond that now it becomes hosted somewhere, etc.
I keep wanting to learn 'org-mode' in emacs. But I never get there. What I do use is a little header lines in emacs and a setup where it updates the date whenver I save the file. This way I know when I last edited the file (inside emacs at least) which is a great way to keep on top of things. I'd be happy to share with what I do in emacs. John
On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 10:35 AM Mike Peckar <mpeckar@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Tim,
I might have missed it, but I'm curious if you came to any conclusions about these tools.
thanks, Mike
On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 9:31 PM Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug@lists.wlug.org> wrote:
At last night's meeting, a new attendee brought up a problem she was having and one of the solutions that got bandied about was Joplin.
After doing some research, this might be my new note taking app. Another very interesting FOSS tool out there is called "Trilium" https://github.com/zadam/trilium
As much as I like google's keep.. I'm fully aware that google capable of just pulling the rug out from under me in a moment's notice.
I've spun up U22.04.3 server and I'm going to tinker with Joplin and possibly Trilium and let people know what I think of them.
Tim.
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In that vein, there's vimwiki https://github.com/vimwiki/vimwiki a markup DSL and some vimscript, works, plaintext so still grepable (I'd suggest the_silver_searcher over grep these days), will export to HTML - soup On Tue, May 21, 2024 at 3:26 PM John Stoffel via WLUG <wlug@lists.wlug.org> wrote:
"Tim" == Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug@lists.wlug.org> writes:
Sadly no. I've looked at DokuWiki a couple of times.
I've *run* dokuwiki and mediawiki for $WORK a couple of times... but never used them in anger either.
The problem is this. I'm lazy. The lowest barrier to entry is simply a directory called "Notes" with a bunch of text files. Being text and using a unix-like system, I've got tools like grep to find stuff.
Me too, I have *tons* of files will all kinds of notes and ideas. Works great from a GUI login, and also works from an SSH text only connection as well.
I figure the next lowest thing is some program that lets me take notes that I can then organize into some index and search against it as well. Beyond that now it becomes hosted somewhere, etc.
I keep wanting to learn 'org-mode' in emacs. But I never get there.
What I do use is a little header lines in emacs and a setup where it updates the date whenver I save the file. This way I know when I last edited the file (inside emacs at least) which is a great way to keep on top of things.
I'd be happy to share with what I do in emacs.
John
On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 10:35 AM Mike Peckar <mpeckar@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey Tim,
I might have missed it, but I'm curious if you came to any
conclusions about these tools.
thanks, Mike
On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 9:31 PM Tim Keller via WLUG <
wlug@lists.wlug.org> wrote:
At last night's meeting, a new attendee brought up a problem she
was having and one of the
solutions that got bandied about was Joplin.
After doing some research, this might be my new note taking app. Another very interesting FOSS tool out there is called "Trilium" https://github.com/zadam/trilium
As much as I like google's keep.. I'm fully aware that google
capable of just pulling the
rug out from under me in a moment's notice.
I've spun up U22.04.3 server and I'm going to tinker with Joplin
and possibly Trilium and
let people know what I think of them.
Tim.
-- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to
their constituents as
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"soup" == soup <soupforare@gmail.com> writes:
In that vein, there's vimwiki
Heretic! Emacs is the one true editor! *grin*
https://github.com/vimwiki/vimwiki a markup DSL and some vimscript, works, plaintext so still grepable (I'd suggest the_silver_searcher over grep these days), will export to HTML
Thanks for the pointer, it looks interesting. Though I have to admit that I mostly turn OFF syntax in VIM since it's so hard to read generally for me, especially the dark blues. But I turn off most colors in my putty/ssh sessions. John
Haven't been able to make a LUG meeting in a few months. Hope all are well. I know it's not the focus of WLUG, but have a Windows based, wife tech support issue. She is in Finance, not technology, and therefore only uses Windows 11 laptop provided by her employer. For years she has had a TrueCrypt, and now a VeraCrypt drive she uses for 'eyes only' stuff like resume and private personal item's. Her new employer locks down Windows, not allowing running of an EXE or MSI without an admin password. So I cannot continue trend running Veracrypt as either installed or as Veracrypt portable. Size of files to secure is reasonable at about 550MB today. I am not a fan of USB thumb drives for data reliability long term. To many LT flaky or dropped in puddles. I am thinking an encrypted Internet Drive setup, something like Proton Drive or similar. Any known Windows options for me to try for my wife? Thank you, Joel
Does she have to be able to access these files while at work or just at home? I was just looking at Proton Drive and I think it's the right solution to her problem. Tim. On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 8:00 PM joel d via WLUG <wlug@lists.wlug.org> wrote:
Haven't been able to make a LUG meeting in a few months. Hope all are well.
I know it's not the focus of WLUG, but have a Windows based, wife tech support issue.
She is in Finance, not technology, and therefore only uses Windows 11 laptop provided by her employer.
For years she has had a TrueCrypt, and now a VeraCrypt drive she uses for 'eyes only' stuff like resume and private personal item's.
Her new employer locks down Windows, not allowing running of an EXE or MSI without an admin password. So I cannot continue trend running Veracrypt as either installed or as Veracrypt portable.
Size of files to secure is reasonable at about 550MB today.
I am not a fan of USB thumb drives for data reliability long term. To many LT flaky or dropped in puddles.
I am thinking an encrypted Internet Drive setup, something like Proton Drive or similar.
Any known Windows options for me to try for my wife?
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Work laptop and she wants access to files regardless of location (work, home, road). I tried Proton drive for 15 minutes this week. As a secure file storage drive, it works. Tested it with a PDF file and could not click on PDF to open file in any PDF viewer. I guess its secure, but not ready for wife. She would just start copying files elsewhere in C: to get things done, making any security foolishly pointless. Still considering wife support options. Thinking currently about a hybrid option. Lots of these files in laptop C: drive folders, unsecured, fast and easy. Good for prior work at prior companies, most word, spreadsheet PowerPoint, pics, etc. Then certain "precious" files on a fast USB thumb drive at home (resume, anything with taxes, income, ID or social). Joel On June 2, 2024 11:23:34 AM Tim Keller <turbofx@gmail.com> wrote:
Does she have to be able to access these files while at work or just at home?
I was just looking at Proton Drive and I think it's the right solution to her problem.
Tim.
On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 8:00 PM joel d via WLUG <wlug@lists.wlug.org> wrote:
Haven't been able to make a LUG meeting in a few months. Hope all are well.
I know it's not the focus of WLUG, but have a Windows based, wife tech support issue.
She is in Finance, not technology, and therefore only uses Windows 11 laptop provided by her employer.
For years she has had a TrueCrypt, and now a VeraCrypt drive she uses for 'eyes only' stuff like resume and private personal item's.
Her new employer locks down Windows, not allowing running of an EXE or MSI without an admin password. So I cannot continue trend running Veracrypt as either installed or as Veracrypt portable.
Size of files to secure is reasonable at about 550MB today.
I am not a fan of USB thumb drives for data reliability long term. To many LT flaky or dropped in puddles.
I am thinking an encrypted Internet Drive setup, something like Proton Drive or similar.
Any known Windows options for me to try for my wife?
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"joel" == joel d via WLUG <wlug@lists.wlug.org> writes:
Work laptop and she wants access to files regardless of location (work, home, road).
Maybe a locked down WebDAV thing instead?
I tried Proton drive for 15 minutes this week. As a secure file storage drive, it works. Tested it with a PDF file and could not click on PDF to open file in any PDF viewer. I guess its secure, but not ready for wife. She would just start copying files elsewhere in C: to get things done, making any security foolishly pointless.
I don't see how she's going to make it work on her work laptop if they don't let her run any .exe files at all on there. Unless the web client allows you to drag and drop files on/off their setup.
Still considering wife support options.
I know how it it! :-) One reason why I have limited automation at home....
Thinking currently about a hybrid option.
Lots of these files in laptop C: drive folders, unsecured, fast and easy. Good for prior work at prior companies, most word, spreadsheet PowerPoint, pics, etc.
Then certain "precious" files on a fast USB thumb drive at home (resume, anything with taxes, income, ID or social).
It all depends on how anal her $WORK is and how effectively they've locked down things. From the sounds of it, you really need to be looking at a pure web based solution. Maybe even a remote desktop. It's not something I've had to do though... But I do have a $WORK latop which won't let me use thumb drives without using bitlocker on it, which makes it a pain to trasfer files to linux systems. And what I see is painful. But maybe a bitlocker thumb drive which holds a copy of important file. Or maybe she can do somrhing on her phone instead?
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