Reminder: Virtual Meeting today at 7PM Topic: Emacs awesomeness.
Hey Gang, This is a reminder we've got a meeting today. The presenter is my co-worker, lisp ninja, emacs badass Kalman. Beyond being a emacs wizard, he's also a mainframe guru, a unix/linux guru and is/was deeply involved in the writing/maintaining of the symbolics lisp operating system. Today he's going to show off some of his emacs foo. If you think emacs is an editor of a bygone era when things were more civilized, kalman will likely not change your mind. However, if you want to take your emacs usage to the next level you'll love this talk. If you're totally not into emacs, that's okay, come along for the ride all the same. Expect the usual banter, tangents and fun. We'll also talk about what we'll want todo for the next meeting. See ya at the meeting! Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".
There is a record button in Jitsi, I can definitely record it! On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 1:13 PM Michael Voorhis via WLUG < wlug@lists.wlug.org> wrote:
On 1/13/22 12:58, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote:
Today he's going to show off some of his emacs foo.
Will the talk be recorded? I'd love to hear the talk but can't attend because of a conflict.
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I was hoping to attend, but it looks like I will not be able to. I hope it will be recorded because I, too, would like to learn about emacs. Also, I have two questions: 1. I am running Ubuntu 18.04 LTS. When I update to ver. 20 or 22, I would prefer to do a "clean" re-install, but I have a question. Does that mean I must get a list of all my installed software and re-install them one at a time after I upgrade the OS? If so, is there an easy way for me to get the list? 2. I have been learning to use the software language R. I have a couple of questions and I would like to hear from anyone who has R experience. Thank You. George Caplan email: gmcaplan@gmcaplan.org On 2022-01-13 1:12 pm, Michael Voorhis via WLUG wrote:
On 1/13/22 12:58, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote:
Today he's going to show off some of his emacs foo.
Will the talk be recorded? I'd love to hear the talk but can't attend because of a conflict.
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To your first question, you can get your list of installed packages on Ubuntu by running "apt list --installed" and piping that to a file and copying that off somewhere safe. You'll likely have to strip that file a bit. Then once you've got that file, on your cleanly installed system you can enumerate over that file with a bash for loop and call "apt install *package*" To your second question, I'm sure we've got an R nerd around here.. Tim. On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 3:47 PM gmcaplan--- via WLUG <wlug@lists.wlug.org> wrote:
I was hoping to attend, but it looks like I will not be able to. I hope it will be recorded because I, too, would like to learn about emacs. Also, I have two questions: 1. I am running Ubuntu 18.04 LTS. When I update to ver. 20 or 22, I would prefer to do a "clean" re-install, but I have a question. Does that mean I must get a list of all my installed software and re-install them one at a time after I upgrade the OS? If so, is there an easy way for me to get the list?
2. I have been learning to use the software language R. I have a couple of questions and I would like to hear from anyone who has R experience.
Thank You.
George Caplan email: gmcaplan@gmcaplan.org
On 2022-01-13 1:12 pm, Michael Voorhis via WLUG wrote:
On 1/13/22 12:58, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote:
Today he's going to show off some of his emacs foo.
Will the talk be recorded? I'd love to hear the talk but can't attend because of a conflict.
--MCV. _______________________________________________ WLUG mailing list -- wlug@lists.wlug.org To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave@lists.wlug.org Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ Web Forum/Archive:
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Thank you. The Ubuntu info is concise, understandable, and helpful ... a great combination. George On 2022-01-13 3:56 pm, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote:
To your first question, you can get your list of installed packages on Ubuntu by running "apt list --installed" and piping that to a file and copying that off somewhere safe. You'll likely have to strip that file a bit. Then once you've got that file, on your cleanly installed system you can enumerate over that file with a bash for loop and call "apt install _package_"
To your second question, I'm sure we've got an R nerd around here..
Tim.
On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 3:47 PM gmcaplan--- via WLUG <wlug@lists.wlug.org> wrote:
I was hoping to attend, but it looks like I will not be able to. I hope it will be recorded because I, too, would like to learn about emacs. Also, I have two questions: 1. I am running Ubuntu 18.04 LTS. When I update to ver. 20 or 22, I would prefer to do a "clean" re-install, but I have a question. Does that mean I must get a list of all my installed software and re-install them one at a time after I upgrade the OS? If so, is there an easy way for me to get the list?
2. I have been learning to use the software language R. I have a couple of questions and I would like to hear from anyone who has R experience.
Thank You.
George Caplan email: gmcaplan@gmcaplan.org
On 2022-01-13 1:12 pm, Michael Voorhis via WLUG wrote:
On 1/13/22 12:58, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote:
Today he's going to show off some of his emacs foo.
Will the talk be recorded? I'd love to hear the talk but can't attend because of a conflict.
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Hello! I'd like to offer a couple notes regarding your upgrade. `apt list --list` may list more than what you've installed explicitly. It will include the packages installed by default in the system (/var/log/installer/initial-status.gz) as well as all the dependencies of packages you've installed. Anyway - that makes for a useful complete list, certainly, but you can generally work from a much smaller list. I think the list you may want comes from `apt-mark showmanual` to list packages you've specifically installed. All this said, https://askubuntu.com/questions/1383951/apt-mark-showmanual-shows-almost-all... seems to indicate that results based on manual installation flags can be problematic before 20.04, so YMMV (though you can exclude from your list based on the initial-status file above as well). While you can do a bash loop and install the packages that way, you can also list a whole bunch on a single run, e.g. `apt install x y z q`. If you are adding >1000 packages, you're likely to run into a limitation doing it that way, but just mentioning - it'd be a little bit quicker (being able to skip identifying packages already installed via others, and running triggers fewer times, etc). Not that it matters all that much, but if you did come up with a list of just 50-100 you need, it's be a reasonable approach. Note that there are changes between the packages in different versions of the OS. Some packages may no longer be available, having been abandoned, and others may be substituted with different packages and so on. While these suggestions will get you close, it may not quite be perfect. If you did opt for an upgrade instead (which works very well in my experience) such changes will often be pointed out to you and/or accommodated for automatically. Finally, don't forget to check for any additional sources you may have added in `/etc/apt/sources*` Regards, Chris On 1/13/22 17:59, gmcaplan--- via WLUG wrote:
Thank you. The Ubuntu info is concise, understandable, and helpful ... a great combination.
George
On 2022-01-13 3:56 pm, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote:
To your first question, you can get your list of installed packages on Ubuntu by running "apt list --installed" and piping that to a file and copying that off somewhere safe. You'll likely have to strip that file a bit. Then once you've got that file, on your cleanly installed system you can enumerate over that file with a bash for loop and call "apt install /package/" To your second question, I'm sure we've got an R nerd around here.. Tim.
On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 3:47 PM gmcaplan--- via WLUG <wlug@lists.wlug.org> wrote:
I was hoping to attend, but it looks like I will not be able to. I hope it will be recorded because I, too, would like to learn about emacs. Also, I have two questions: 1. I am running Ubuntu 18.04 LTS. When I update to ver. 20 or 22, I would prefer to do a "clean" re-install, but I have a question. Does that mean I must get a list of all my installed software and re-install them one at a time after I upgrade the OS? If so, is there an easy way for me to get the list?
2. I have been learning to use the software language R. I have a couple of questions and I would like to hear from anyone who has R experience.
Thank You.
George Caplan email: gmcaplan@gmcaplan.org
On 2022-01-13 1:12 pm, Michael Voorhis via WLUG wrote: > On 1/13/22 12:58, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote: >> Today he's going to show off some of his emacs foo. > > Will the talk be recorded? I'd love to hear the talk but can't attend > because of a conflict. > > --MCV. > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug@lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave@lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/D2QDCT... _______________________________________________ WLUG mailing list -- wlug@lists.wlug.org To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave@lists.wlug.org Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/VBG7TL...
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