LinkedIn ------------ I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. - Al Al Butler Information Technology and Services Professional Greater Boston Area Confirm that you know Al Butler: https://www.linkedin.com/e/-guplyd-h05sfzre-19/isd/6412973860/N4Pmccpb/?hs=false&tok=3t8pLFszbSUl81 -- You are receiving Invitation to Connect emails. Click to unsubscribe: http://www.linkedin.com/e/-guplyd-h05sfzre-19/uSTdRBL8TntbriFQlbXcoPTDk9Qxil/goo/wlug%40mail%2Ewlug%2Eorg/20061/I2225618799_1/?hs=false&tok=3CEIpDBGvSUl81 (c) 2012 LinkedIn Corporation. 2029 Stierlin Ct, Mountain View, CA 94043, USA.
Noooo! Did anyone else from WLUG receive this? If so, let's fix it. Please don't use the private WLUG mailing list contact info for invitations to social sites! Al, please delete me from your Contacts immediately. WLUG: maybe some kind of Privacy statement should be posted on the WLUG website (link on main page). I looked for some statement about how the mailing list contacts should be private, but found none. Private mailing lists are not for mining. Wrong, bad, no, please, no. My contact is not to be shared, not at any time, for any reason. Thanks, Liz J If what you are getting online is for free, you are not the customer, you are the product. -Jonathan Zittrain, professor of Internet law (b. 1969) On 23 March 2012 18:14, Al Butler <albutlerjr@yahoo.com> wrote:
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[image: Al Butler]
*From Al Butler*
Information Technology and Services Professional Greater Boston Area
I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn.
- Al
Confirm that you know Al<https://www.linkedin.com/e/-guplyd-h05sfzre-19/isd/6412973860/N4Pmccpb/?hs=false&tok=3t8pLFszbSUl81>
You are receiving Invitation to Connect emails. Unsubscribe<http://www.linkedin.com/e/-guplyd-h05sfzre-19/uSTdRBL8TntbriFQlbXcoPTDk9Qxil/goo/wlug%40mail%2Ewlug%2Eorg/20061/I2225618799_1/?hs=false&tok=3CEIpDBGvSUl81> © 2012, LinkedIn Corporation. 2029 Stierlin Ct. Mountain View, CA 94043, USA
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It was sent to the wlug mailing list. My guess is somebody gave their address book to LinkedIn, the same thing happened with Facebook a few years back, IIRC (or was that on another mailing list?) On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 6:33 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates@gmail.com> wrote:
Noooo!
Did anyone else from WLUG receive this? If so, let's fix it.
Please don't use the private WLUG mailing list contact info for invitations to social sites!
Al, please delete me from your Contacts immediately.
WLUG: maybe some kind of Privacy statement should be posted on the WLUG website (link on main page). I looked for some statement about how the mailing list contacts should be private, but found none. Private mailing lists are not for mining.
Wrong, bad, no, please, no. My contact is not to be shared, not at any time, for any reason.
Thanks, Liz J
If what you are getting online is for free, you are not the customer, you are the product. -Jonathan Zittrain, professor of Internet law (b. 1969)
On 23 March 2012 18:14, Al Butler <albutlerjr@yahoo.com> wrote:
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[image: Al Butler]
*From Al Butler*
Information Technology and Services Professional Greater Boston Area
I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn.
- Al
Confirm that you know Al<https://www.linkedin.com/e/-guplyd-h05sfzre-19/isd/6412973860/N4Pmccpb/?hs=false&tok=3t8pLFszbSUl81>
You are receiving Invitation to Connect emails. Unsubscribe<http://www.linkedin.com/e/-guplyd-h05sfzre-19/uSTdRBL8TntbriFQlbXcoPTDk9Qxil/goo/wlug%40mail%2Ewlug%2Eorg/20061/I2225618799_1/?hs=false&tok=3CEIpDBGvSUl81> © 2012, LinkedIn Corporation. 2029 Stierlin Ct. Mountain View, CA 94043, USA
_______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug@mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug
_______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug@mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug
-- Eric Martin
Just need to be careful letting sites and apps go through your email contacts. On Mar 23, 2012 6:59 PM, "Eric Martin" <eric.joshua.martin@gmail.com> wrote:
It was sent to the wlug mailing list. My guess is somebody gave their address book to LinkedIn, the same thing happened with Facebook a few years back, IIRC (or was that on another mailing list?)
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 6:33 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates@gmail.com> wrote:
Noooo!
Did anyone else from WLUG receive this? If so, let's fix it.
Please don't use the private WLUG mailing list contact info for invitations to social sites!
Al, please delete me from your Contacts immediately.
WLUG: maybe some kind of Privacy statement should be posted on the WLUG website (link on main page). I looked for some statement about how the mailing list contacts should be private, but found none. Private mailing lists are not for mining.
Wrong, bad, no, please, no. My contact is not to be shared, not at any time, for any reason.
Thanks, Liz J
If what you are getting online is for free, you are not the customer, you are the product. -Jonathan Zittrain, professor of Internet law (b. 1969)
On 23 March 2012 18:14, Al Butler <albutlerjr@yahoo.com> wrote:
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[image: Al Butler]
*From Al Butler*
Information Technology and Services Professional Greater Boston Area
I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn.
- Al
Confirm that you know Al<https://www.linkedin.com/e/-guplyd-h05sfzre-19/isd/6412973860/N4Pmccpb/?hs=false&tok=3t8pLFszbSUl81>
You are receiving Invitation to Connect emails. Unsubscribe<http://www.linkedin.com/e/-guplyd-h05sfzre-19/uSTdRBL8TntbriFQlbXcoPTDk9Qxil/goo/wlug%40mail%2Ewlug%2Eorg/20061/I2225618799_1/?hs=false&tok=3CEIpDBGvSUl81> © 2012, LinkedIn Corporation. 2029 Stierlin Ct. Mountain View, CA 94043, USA
_______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug@mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug
_______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug@mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug
-- Eric Martin
_______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug@mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug
My guess is somebody gave their address book to LinkedIn
Obviously so. Jason also commented:
Just need to be careful letting sites and apps go through your email contacts
Not just "be careful" but more like: "Do Not allow" sites and apps any access to your email contacts at all. Ppls contact info is not owned by whoever has the person in their Contacts list. Maybe a link could be added to the WLUG mailing list signup page, sending a proposed (requesting-to-join) WLUG mailing list member to a page stating Privacy policy (non-share contacts info). If a proposed (requesting) mailing list member must read Privacy policy, then agree (click Yes to Agree) before becoming a member of the mailing list, maybe it would prevent the idea that Contact lists can be so casually given away. Liz J
To clarify Liz, Linked In doesn't have your email address. They have wlug@wlug.org, and that contact opened X hundred emails. On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 7:21 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates@gmail.com> wrote:
My guess is somebody gave their address book to LinkedIn
Obviously so.
Jason also commented:
Just need to be careful letting sites and apps go through your email contacts
Not just "be careful" but more like: "Do Not allow" sites and apps any access to your email contacts at all.
Ppls contact info is not owned by whoever has the person in their Contacts list.
Maybe a link could be added to the WLUG mailing list signup page, sending a proposed (requesting-to-join) WLUG mailing list member to a page stating Privacy policy (non-share contacts info). If a proposed (requesting) mailing list member must read Privacy policy, then agree (click Yes to Agree) before becoming a member of the mailing list, maybe it would prevent the idea that Contact lists can be so casually given away.
Liz J
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-- Eric Martin
I should have made that more clear. Mail-list address or not, Iit still is not okay to give the WLUG email address to any other entities whatsoever. Someone shared the WLUG a mailing address with a certain social/commercial website. Then secondhandedly WLUG mailing list contacted x number of individual contacts on behalf of the social/commercial website The message included a direct link to this commercial website. List members were invited to click on this link, or else to click on the UNsubscribe link. Even sharing the WLUG contact address with outside entities is Non-OK. We all got Spammed because someone decided it was okay to give our email to ___.com.. Liz J If what you are getting online is for free, you are not the customer, you are the product. -Jonathan Zittrain, professor of Internet law (b. 1969) On 23 March 2012 21:09, Eric Martin <eric.joshua.martin@gmail.com> wrote:
To clarify Liz, Linked In doesn't have your email address. They have wlug@wlug.org, and that contact opened X hundred emails.
I agree it's not ok to share your address book, but accidents happen. That, and I was more getting at the fact that X service doesn't have our individual email addresses. On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 9:34 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates@gmail.com> wrote:
I should have made that more clear.
Mail-list address or not, Iit still is not okay to give the WLUG email address to any other entities whatsoever. Someone shared the WLUG a mailing address with a certain social/commercial website. Then secondhandedly WLUG mailing list contacted x number of individual contacts on behalf of the social/commercial website The message included a direct link to this commercial website. List members were invited to click on this link, or else to click on the UNsubscribe link.
Even sharing the WLUG contact address with outside entities is Non-OK. We all got Spammed because someone decided it was okay to give our email to ___.com..
Liz J
If what you are getting online is for free, you are not the customer, you are the product. -Jonathan Zittrain, professor of Internet law (b. 1969)
On 23 March 2012 21:09, Eric Martin <eric.joshua.martin@gmail.com> wrote:
To clarify Liz, Linked In doesn't have your email address. They have wlug@wlug.org, and that contact opened X hundred emails.
_______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug@mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug
-- Eric Martin
If what you are getting online is for free, you are not the customer, you are the product. -Jonathan Zittrain, professor of Internet law (b. 1969)
I have read that before, but did not have an attribution. I would like to offer and ammendment. you are not the customer, you are the merchandise. Facebook, Google, and Hotmail had nothing to do with producing me; I am not their product. -- Keith PS: Essay question 1: How does this aphorism apply to getting Linux for free?
On 03/25/2012 07:35 PM, Keith Wright wrote:
If what you are getting online is for free, you are not the customer, you are the product. -Jonathan Zittrain, professor of Internet law (b. 1969)
I have read that before, but did not have an attribution. I would like to offer and ammendment.
you are not the customer, you are the merchandise.
Facebook, Google, and Hotmail had nothing to do with producing me; I am not their product.
-- Keith
PS: Essay question 1: How does this aphorism apply to getting Linux for free?
Would it be considered cheating to just refer someone to Eric Raymond? -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that Manager of Network Operations | is simple, elegant, and wrong. Worcester Polytechnic Institute | - HL Mencken
Just so there's no confusion or overlap... there IS a facebook group for the Worcester Linux Users Group for which I'm the group owner. I made absolutely sure this group is NOT associated with the wlug@wlug.org when I created it. It has the address: worcester.linux.users.group@groups.facebook.com Thanks, Tim. On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Frank Sweetser <fs@wpi.edu> wrote:
On 03/25/2012 07:35 PM, Keith Wright wrote:
If what you are getting online is for free, you are not the customer, you are the product. -Jonathan Zittrain, professor of Internet law (b. 1969)
I have read that before, but did not have an attribution. I would like to offer and ammendment.
you are not the customer, you are the merchandise.
Facebook, Google, and Hotmail had nothing to do with producing me; I am not their product.
-- Keith
PS: Essay question 1: How does this aphorism apply to getting Linux for free?
Would it be considered cheating to just refer someone to Eric Raymond?
-- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that Manager of Network Operations | is simple, elegant, and wrong. Worcester Polytechnic Institute | - HL Mencken _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug@mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug
-- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".
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