Reminder: WLUG Meeting TONIGHT! Topic: Linux Kernel 6.12.x!
Hey Everybody, We've got a meeting tonight! The topic is going to be the latest linux kernel. I'm going to go into why I decided to make the leap and why it might work for you too! I'll get into what it took for me to build it and some of the nifty innovations it brings to the table! Date: December 12th, 2024 Time: 7pm Location: 44 Portland Street, Worcester MA. The virtual location is here: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA Thanks, Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".
How was the meeting? I noticed in "dnf update" on Fedora 41: Installing: kernel x86_64 6.12.4-200.fc41 updates 0.0 B kernel-core x86_64 6.12.4-200.fc41 updates 73.6 MiB kernel-modules x86_64 6.12.4-200.fc41 updates 62.5 MiB kernel-modules-core x86_64 6.12.4-200.fc41 updates 37.1 MiB kernel-modules-extra x86_64 6.12.4-200.fc41 updates 2.7 MiB On Thu, Dec 12, 2024 at 04:31:35PM -0500, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote:
Hey Everybody,
We've got a meeting tonight! The topic is going to be the latest linux kernel. I'm going to go into why I decided to make the leap and why it might work for you too! I'll get into what it took for me to build it and some of the nifty innovations it brings to the table!
Date: December 12th, 2024 Time: 7pm Location: 44 Portland Street, Worcester MA. The virtual location is here: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA
Thanks, Tim.
Very cool! The meeting went great. I ended up doing an inadvertent demo of the kernel when I had jitsi going, a compile on 2 of my 4 cores, plus running cad and my machine just kept on chugging. Technocopia was having a holiday party so we had lots of people wander in as well. All in all, it was great. Tim. On Mon, Dec 16, 2024, 10:22 AM Chuck Anderson via WLUG <wlug@lists.wlug.org> wrote:
How was the meeting?
I noticed in "dnf update" on Fedora 41:
Installing: kernel x86_64 6.12.4-200.fc41 updates 0.0 B kernel-core x86_64 6.12.4-200.fc41 updates 73.6 MiB kernel-modules x86_64 6.12.4-200.fc41 updates 62.5 MiB kernel-modules-core x86_64 6.12.4-200.fc41 updates 37.1 MiB kernel-modules-extra x86_64 6.12.4-200.fc41 updates 2.7 MiB
On Thu, Dec 12, 2024 at 04:31:35PM -0500, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote:
Hey Everybody,
We've got a meeting tonight! The topic is going to be the latest linux kernel. I'm going to go into why I decided to make the leap and why it might work for you too! I'll get into what it took for me to build it and some of the nifty innovations it brings to the table!
Date: December 12th, 2024 Time: 7pm Location: 44 Portland Street, Worcester MA. The virtual location is here: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA
Thanks, Tim.
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I am used to getting an email from Tim Keller when there is a WLUG meeting. I am also used to it being on the second Thursday of the month. One of those didn't happen. Two meetings ago I tried to do a presentation of LaTeX, but share-screen did not work like it did three meetings ago. One meeting ago, share screen worked, but everyone was talking about something else, and I wasn't really ready anyway. I could try again, though I am not really ready today either. ---- Also
Hey Everybody,
This is a reminder that we've got a meeting tomorrow at WPI! Time: 7pm Location: WPI Student Center Room 128 (Taylor Room) Down below the stairs. Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA Topic: frame.work laptop demo, passbolt demo
Cara Salter has agreed to come and show off her frame.work laptop. This laptop is designed with upgrade ability in mind. Components such as the motherboard can be easily swapped for more powerful versions, etc.
If Cara (or anyone with a frame.work) is still around, I would be interested in an update on this. Does it still work, or did it blow blue smoke? Did you actually upgrade anything? Would you recomend it? ---- Chuck Anderson via WLUG <wlug@lists.wlug.org> writes:
I noticed in "dnf update" on Fedora 41:
Installing: kernel x86_64 6.12.4-200.fc41 updates 0.0 B kernel-core x86_64 6.12.4-200.fc41 updates 73.6 MiB kernel-modules x86_64 6.12.4-200.fc41 updates 62.5 MiB kernel-modules-core x86_64 6.12.4-200.fc41 updates 37.1 MiB kernel-modules-extra x86_64 6.12.4-200.fc41 updates 2.7 MiB
OK. Google finds a page that says dnf is Fedora's replacement for yum, which is apt or rpm re-done. Just another package manager. You installed a kernel; what did you notice that was interesting? -- Keith
Chuck, That's awesome! I've seen there are apt repositories going as well! Since this week is a follies dejour for me.. You'll all laugh. Installing 6.12.8 I managed to mess up my order of operations and rebooted before fully updating the boot loader.. Don't install kernels when you're sleepy.. Tim. On Thu, Jan 9, 2025, 3:28 PM Keith Wright via WLUG <wlug@lists.wlug.org> wrote:
I am used to getting an email from Tim Keller when there is a WLUG meeting. I am also used to it being on the second Thursday of the month. One of those didn't happen.
Two meetings ago I tried to do a presentation of LaTeX, but share-screen did not work like it did three meetings ago.
One meeting ago, share screen worked, but everyone was talking about something else, and I wasn't really ready anyway.
I could try again, though I am not really ready today either. ----
Also
Hey Everybody,
This is a reminder that we've got a meeting tomorrow at WPI! Time: 7pm Location: WPI Student Center Room 128 (Taylor Room) Down below the stairs. Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA Topic: frame.work laptop demo, passbolt demo
Cara Salter has agreed to come and show off her frame.work laptop. This laptop is designed with upgrade ability in mind. Components such as the motherboard can be easily swapped for more powerful versions, etc.
If Cara (or anyone with a frame.work) is still around, I would be interested in an update on this. Does it still work, or did it blow blue smoke? Did you actually upgrade anything? Would you recomend it? ----
Chuck Anderson via WLUG <wlug@lists.wlug.org> writes:
I noticed in "dnf update" on Fedora 41:
Installing: kernel x86_64 6.12.4-200.fc41 updates 0.0 B kernel-core x86_64 6.12.4-200.fc41 updates 73.6 MiB kernel-modules x86_64 6.12.4-200.fc41 updates 62.5 MiB kernel-modules-core x86_64 6.12.4-200.fc41 updates 37.1 MiB kernel-modules-extra x86_64 6.12.4-200.fc41 updates 2.7 MiB
OK. Google finds a page that says dnf is Fedora's replacement for yum, which is apt or rpm re-done. Just another package manager.
You installed a kernel; what did you notice that was interesting?
-- Keith
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Fedora is always up-to-date with the newest kernels... On Thu, Jan 09, 2025 at 08:09:16PM -0500, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote:
Chuck,
That's awesome! I've seen there are apt repositories going as well!
Since this week is a follies dejour for me.. You'll all laugh.
Installing 6.12.8 I managed to mess up my order of operations and rebooted before fully updating the boot loader..
Don't install kernels when you're sleepy..
Tim.
On Thu, Jan 9, 2025, 3:28 PM Keith Wright via WLUG <wlug@lists.wlug.org> wrote:
I am used to getting an email from Tim Keller when there is a WLUG meeting. I am also used to it being on the second Thursday of the month. One of those didn't happen.
Two meetings ago I tried to do a presentation of LaTeX, but share-screen did not work like it did three meetings ago.
One meeting ago, share screen worked, but everyone was talking about something else, and I wasn't really ready anyway.
I could try again, though I am not really ready today either. ----
Also
Hey Everybody,
This is a reminder that we've got a meeting tomorrow at WPI! Time: 7pm Location: WPI Student Center Room 128 (Taylor Room) Down below the stairs. Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA Topic: frame.work laptop demo, passbolt demo
Cara Salter has agreed to come and show off her frame.work laptop. This laptop is designed with upgrade ability in mind. Components such as the motherboard can be easily swapped for more powerful versions, etc.
If Cara (or anyone with a frame.work) is still around, I would be interested in an update on this. Does it still work, or did it blow blue smoke? Did you actually upgrade anything? Would you recomend it? ----
Chuck Anderson via WLUG <wlug@lists.wlug.org> writes:
I noticed in "dnf update" on Fedora 41:
Installing: kernel x86_64 6.12.4-200.fc41 updates 0.0 B kernel-core x86_64 6.12.4-200.fc41 updates 73.6 MiB kernel-modules x86_64 6.12.4-200.fc41 updates 62.5 MiB kernel-modules-core x86_64 6.12.4-200.fc41 updates 37.1 MiB kernel-modules-extra x86_64 6.12.4-200.fc41 updates 2.7 MiB
OK. Google finds a page that says dnf is Fedora's replacement for yum, which is apt or rpm re-done. Just another package manager.
You installed a kernel; what did you notice that was interesting?
I've found that moving my systems to Fedora Atomic has been great for avoiding situations like this. The image-based OS update model of rpm-ostree ensures that an update doesn't leave the OS in a broken state, even if the update gets interrupted. https://coreos.github.io/rpm-ostree/ https://fedoraproject.org/atomic-desktops/silverblue/ The introduction of bootupd in Fedora 41 has also helped ensure that the bootloader gets updated properly outside of rpm-ostree. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/FedoraSilverblueBootupd In essence, I get the leading-edge package updates of Fedora, with the rock-solid reliability that LTS distros are typically associated with. - Josh On Thu, Jan 9, 2025 at 8:15 PM Chuck Anderson via WLUG <wlug@lists.wlug.org> wrote:
Fedora is always up-to-date with the newest kernels...
On Thu, Jan 09, 2025 at 08:09:16PM -0500, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote:
Chuck,
That's awesome! I've seen there are apt repositories going as well!
Since this week is a follies dejour for me.. You'll all laugh.
Installing 6.12.8 I managed to mess up my order of operations and rebooted before fully updating the boot loader..
Don't install kernels when you're sleepy..
Tim.
On Thu, Jan 9, 2025, 3:28 PM Keith Wright via WLUG <wlug@lists.wlug.org> wrote:
I am used to getting an email from Tim Keller when there is a WLUG meeting. I am also used to it being on the second Thursday of the month. One of those didn't happen.
Two meetings ago I tried to do a presentation of LaTeX, but share-screen did not work like it did three meetings ago.
One meeting ago, share screen worked, but everyone was talking about something else, and I wasn't really ready anyway.
I could try again, though I am not really ready today either. ----
Also
Hey Everybody,
This is a reminder that we've got a meeting tomorrow at WPI! Time: 7pm Location: WPI Student Center Room 128 (Taylor Room) Down below the stairs. Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA Topic: frame.work laptop demo, passbolt demo
Cara Salter has agreed to come and show off her frame.work laptop. This laptop is designed with upgrade ability in mind. Components such as the motherboard can be easily swapped for more powerful versions, etc.
If Cara (or anyone with a frame.work) is still around, I would be interested in an update on this. Does it still work, or did it blow blue smoke? Did you actually upgrade anything? Would you recomend it? ----
Chuck Anderson via WLUG <wlug@lists.wlug.org> writes:
I noticed in "dnf update" on Fedora 41:
Installing: kernel x86_64 6.12.4-200.fc41 updates 0.0 B kernel-core x86_64 6.12.4-200.fc41 updates 73.6 MiB kernel-modules x86_64 6.12.4-200.fc41 updates 62.5 MiB kernel-modules-core x86_64 6.12.4-200.fc41 updates 37.1 MiB kernel-modules-extra x86_64 6.12.4-200.fc41 updates 2.7 MiB
OK. Google finds a page that says dnf is Fedora's replacement for yum, which is apt or rpm re-done. Just another package manager.
You installed a kernel; what did you notice that was interesting?
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Yeah, it probably would have saved me. On Thu, Jan 9, 2025 at 9:50 PM Joshua Stone via WLUG <wlug@lists.wlug.org> wrote:
I've found that moving my systems to Fedora Atomic has been great for avoiding situations like this. The image-based OS update model of rpm-ostree ensures that an update doesn't leave the OS in a broken state, even if the update gets interrupted.
https://coreos.github.io/rpm-ostree/ https://fedoraproject.org/atomic-desktops/silverblue/
The introduction of bootupd in Fedora 41 has also helped ensure that the bootloader gets updated properly outside of rpm-ostree.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/FedoraSilverblueBootupd
In essence, I get the leading-edge package updates of Fedora, with the rock-solid reliability that LTS distros are typically associated with.
- Josh
On Thu, Jan 9, 2025 at 8:15 PM Chuck Anderson via WLUG < wlug@lists.wlug.org> wrote:
Fedora is always up-to-date with the newest kernels...
On Thu, Jan 09, 2025 at 08:09:16PM -0500, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote:
Chuck,
That's awesome! I've seen there are apt repositories going as well!
Since this week is a follies dejour for me.. You'll all laugh.
Installing 6.12.8 I managed to mess up my order of operations and rebooted before fully updating the boot loader..
Don't install kernels when you're sleepy..
Tim.
On Thu, Jan 9, 2025, 3:28 PM Keith Wright via WLUG <wlug@lists.wlug.org
wrote:
I am used to getting an email from Tim Keller when there is a WLUG meeting. I am also used to it being on the second Thursday of the month. One of those didn't happen.
Two meetings ago I tried to do a presentation of LaTeX, but share-screen did not work like it did three meetings ago.
One meeting ago, share screen worked, but everyone was talking about something else, and I wasn't really ready anyway.
I could try again, though I am not really ready today either. ----
Also
Hey Everybody,
This is a reminder that we've got a meeting tomorrow at WPI! Time: 7pm Location: WPI Student Center Room 128 (Taylor Room) Down below the stairs. Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA Topic: frame.work laptop demo, passbolt demo
Cara Salter has agreed to come and show off her frame.work laptop. This laptop is designed with upgrade ability in mind. Components such as the motherboard can be easily swapped for more powerful versions, etc.
If Cara (or anyone with a frame.work) is still around, I would be interested in an update on this. Does it still work, or did it blow blue smoke? Did you actually upgrade anything? Would you recomend it? ----
Chuck Anderson via WLUG <wlug@lists.wlug.org> writes:
I noticed in "dnf update" on Fedora 41:
Installing: kernel x86_64 6.12.4-200.fc41 updates 0.0 B kernel-core x86_64 6.12.4-200.fc41 updates 73.6 MiB kernel-modules x86_64 6.12.4-200.fc41 updates 62.5 MiB kernel-modules-core x86_64 6.12.4-200.fc41 updates 37.1 MiB kernel-modules-extra x86_64 6.12.4-200.fc41 updates 2.7 MiB
OK. Google finds a page that says dnf is Fedora's replacement for yum, which is apt or rpm re-done. Just another package manager.
You installed a kernel; what did you notice that was interesting?
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"Tim" == Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug@lists.wlug.org> writes:
This looks really interesting, and especially these days with lots of available disk space, having two boot partitions so you can update B while booted off A, and then try to boot from B, but failback if there's a problem. My only problem with Fedora is that I'm a debian packaging kinda guy.... LOL!
Yeah, it probably would have saved me. On Thu, Jan 9, 2025 at 9:50 PM Joshua Stone via WLUG <wlug@lists.wlug.org> wrote:
I've found that moving my systems to Fedora Atomic has been great for avoiding situations like this. The image-based OS update model of rpm-ostree ensures that an update doesn't leave the OS in a broken state, even if the update gets interrupted.
https://coreos.github.io/rpm-ostree/ https://fedoraproject.org/atomic-desktops/silverblue/
The introduction of bootupd in Fedora 41 has also helped ensure that the bootloader gets updated properly outside of rpm-ostree.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/FedoraSilverblueBootupd
In essence, I get the leading-edge package updates of Fedora, with the rock-solid reliability that LTS distros are typically associated with.
- Josh
On Thu, Jan 9, 2025 at 8:15 PM Chuck Anderson via WLUG <wlug@lists.wlug.org> wrote:
Fedora is always up-to-date with the newest kernels...
On Thu, Jan 09, 2025 at 08:09:16PM -0500, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote:
Chuck,
That's awesome! I've seen there are apt repositories going as well!
Since this week is a follies dejour for me.. You'll all laugh.
Installing 6.12.8 I managed to mess up my order of operations and rebooted before fully updating the boot loader..
Don't install kernels when you're sleepy..
Tim.
On Thu, Jan 9, 2025, 3:28 PM Keith Wright via WLUG <wlug@lists.wlug.org> wrote:
I am used to getting an email from Tim Keller when there is a WLUG meeting. I am also used to it being on the second Thursday of the month. One of those didn't happen.
Two meetings ago I tried to do a presentation of LaTeX, but share-screen did not work like it did three meetings ago.
One meeting ago, share screen worked, but everyone was talking about something else, and I wasn't really ready anyway.
I could try again, though I am not really ready today either. ----
Also
Hey Everybody,
This is a reminder that we've got a meeting tomorrow at WPI! Time: 7pm Location: WPI Student Center Room 128 (Taylor Room) Down below the stairs. Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA Topic: frame.work laptop demo, passbolt demo
Cara Salter has agreed to come and show off her frame.work laptop. This laptop is designed with upgrade ability in mind. Components such as the motherboard can be easily swapped for more powerful versions, etc.
If Cara (or anyone with a frame.work) is still around, I would be interested in an update on this. Does it still work, or did it blow blue smoke? Did you actually upgrade anything? Would you recomend it? ----
Chuck Anderson via WLUG <wlug@lists.wlug.org> writes:
I noticed in "dnf update" on Fedora 41:
Installing: kernel x86_64 6.12.4-200.fc41 updates 0.0 B kernel-core x86_64 6.12.4-200.fc41 updates 73.6 MiB kernel-modules x86_64 6.12.4-200.fc41 updates 62.5 MiB kernel-modules-core x86_64 6.12.4-200.fc41 updates 37.1 MiB kernel-modules-extra x86_64 6.12.4-200.fc41 updates 2.7 MiB
OK. Google finds a page that says dnf is Fedora's replacement for yum, which is apt or rpm re-done. Just another package manager.
You installed a kernel; what did you notice that was interesting? _______________________________________________ WLUG mailing list -- wlug@lists.wlug.org To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave@lists.wlug.org Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/VAVLWA...
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Keith, I have a Framework 16 and it does have good upgradability features. I have not upgraded anything with OEM parts yet, but I was able to re-use a mPCIe wireless adapter from an older laptop that is nicer with the kernel, as well as the storage from my old laptop. I saved money when buying the user-assembled Framework 16 kit as I didn't need to include storage or RAM. I used the NVMe storage from my older laptop and bought some aftermarket RAM that was cheaper than anything Framework was offering with the kit. Probably the first OEM Framework part I will get in the future will be a graphics card, but their only graphics offering currently has too little video RAM for running machine learning code. ________________________________ From: Keith Wright via WLUG <wlug@lists.wlug.org> Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2025 3:27 PM To: Worcester Linux Users' Group General Discussion <wlug@lists.wlug.org> Cc: wlug@lists.wlug.org <wlug@lists.wlug.org>; Keith Wright <kwright@keithdiane.us> Subject: [WLUG] WLUG Meeting tonight? I am used to getting an email from Tim Keller when there is a WLUG meeting. I am also used to it being on the second Thursday of the month. One of those didn't happen. Two meetings ago I tried to do a presentation of LaTeX, but share-screen did not work like it did three meetings ago. One meeting ago, share screen worked, but everyone was talking about something else, and I wasn't really ready anyway. I could try again, though I am not really ready today either. ---- Also
Hey Everybody,
This is a reminder that we've got a meeting tomorrow at WPI! Time: 7pm Location: WPI Student Center Room 128 (Taylor Room) Down below the stairs. Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA Topic: frame.work laptop demo, passbolt demo
Cara Salter has agreed to come and show off her frame.work laptop. This laptop is designed with upgrade ability in mind. Components such as the motherboard can be easily swapped for more powerful versions, etc.
If Cara (or anyone with a frame.work) is still around, I would be interested in an update on this. Does it still work, or did it blow blue smoke? Did you actually upgrade anything? Would you recomend it? ---- Chuck Anderson via WLUG <wlug@lists.wlug.org> writes:
I noticed in "dnf update" on Fedora 41:
Installing: kernel x86_64 6.12.4-200.fc41 updates 0.0 B kernel-core x86_64 6.12.4-200.fc41 updates 73.6 MiB kernel-modules x86_64 6.12.4-200.fc41 updates 62.5 MiB kernel-modules-core x86_64 6.12.4-200.fc41 updates 37.1 MiB kernel-modules-extra x86_64 6.12.4-200.fc41 updates 2.7 MiB
OK. Google finds a page that says dnf is Fedora's replacement for yum, which is apt or rpm re-done. Just another package manager. You installed a kernel; what did you notice that was interesting? -- Keith _______________________________________________ WLUG mailing list -- wlug@lists.wlug.org To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave@lists.wlug.org Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/WMLWNJ...
My Framework 16 has been great. I have not upgraded anything. Games I couldn't run before can be run perfectly fine. I did recently try "Return to Moria" and it did not run well. It is PS5 game not available for the PS4 so I suspect it just requires more power than the Framework 16 graphics can give. I'm not running machine learning code so that hasn't been an issue for me. On Sat, 2025-01-18 at 05:16 +0000, Evan White via WLUG wrote:
Keith, I have a Framework 16 and it does have good upgradability features. I have not upgraded anything with OEM parts yet, but I was able to re-use a mPCIe wireless adapter from an older laptop that is nicer with the kernel, as well as the storage from my old laptop. I saved money when buying the user-assembled Framework 16 kit as I didn't need to include storage or RAM. I used the NVMe storage from my older laptop and bought some aftermarket RAM that was cheaper than anything Framework was offering with the kit. Probably the first OEM Framework part I will get in the future will be a graphics card, but their only graphics offering currently has too little video RAM for running machine learning code.
From: Keith Wright via WLUG <wlug@lists.wlug.org> Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2025 3:27 PM To: Worcester Linux Users' Group General Discussion <wlug@lists.wlug.org> Cc: wlug@lists.wlug.org <wlug@lists.wlug.org>; Keith Wright <kwright@keithdiane.us> Subject: [WLUG] WLUG Meeting tonight?
I am used to getting an email from Tim Keller when there is a WLUG meeting. I am also used to it being on the second Thursday of the month. One of those didn't happen.
Two meetings ago I tried to do a presentation of LaTeX, but share-screen did not work like it did three meetings ago.
One meeting ago, share screen worked, but everyone was talking about something else, and I wasn't really ready anyway.
I could try again, though I am not really ready today either. ----
Also
Hey Everybody,
This is a reminder that we've got a meeting tomorrow at WPI! Time: 7pm Location: WPI Student Center Room 128 (Taylor Room) Down below the stairs. Virtual Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA Topic: frame.work laptop demo, passbolt demo
Cara Salter has agreed to come and show off her frame.work laptop. This laptop is designed with upgrade ability in mind. Components such as the motherboard can be easily swapped for more powerful versions, etc.
If Cara (or anyone with a frame.work) is still around, I would be interested in an update on this. Does it still work, or did it blow blue smoke? Did you actually upgrade anything? Would you recomend it? ----
Chuck Anderson via WLUG <wlug@lists.wlug.org> writes:
I noticed in "dnf update" on Fedora 41:
Installing: kernel x86_64 6.12.4-200.fc41 updates 0.0 B kernel-core x86_64 6.12.4-200.fc41 updates 73.6 MiB kernel-modules x86_64 6.12.4-200.fc41 updates 62.5 MiB kernel-modules-core x86_64 6.12.4-200.fc41 updates 37.1 MiB kernel-modules-extra x86_64 6.12.4-200.fc41 updates 2.7 MiB
OK. Google finds a page that says dnf is Fedora's replacement for yum, which is apt or rpm re-done. Just another package manager.
You installed a kernel; what did you notice that was interesting?
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On 1/18/25 13:38, Dennis Payne via WLUG wrote:
My Framework 16 has been great. I have not upgraded anything. Games I couldn't run before can be run perfectly fine. I did recently try "Return to Moria" and it did not run well. It is PS5 game not available for the PS4 so I suspect it just requires more power than the Framework 16 graphics can give. I'm not running machine learning code so that hasn't been an issue for me.
My only two problems (personally) with it are: 1) Storage is limited (I want at leat 16 TB for all of my media -- photos and videos). A pair of 8 TB M.2's would be great, but those aren't available in 2230 form factor. 2) I'd prefer a 4K screen, even at a lower refresh rate. I'm not into gaming. Otherwise, it looks like a fantastic machine. I'd prefer to trade off size and weight in favor of capability, but I'm probably an outlier.
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