This is all analogous to what I use successfully for my wife. To your points: 1) skip the include if you like. My wife has aliased her mail on several domains to Google so she can mail from her phone I only provide her POP not IMAP. I forward her incoming stuff (successfully) to Gmail with Procmail 2) I appreciate that everything worked for 20 years. It did here also, until the last 2 years when Google and Yahoo (who now also does mail for AOL and Verizon) started changing the rules for what they would accept. Took me months. Still issues with Yahoo. Have read they don't follow the standards. 3) You must have an "a:" section in your spf record, it is the only way to tell Google what your valid server(s) is/are. It doesn't matter what you have done with GoDaddy. Also, despite what most documentation says, Google will NOT accept an "ipv4:" section instead of "a:' 4) Can't comment further without seeing what Google's bounce messages look like At 10:27 PM 5/30/2026, Keith Wright via WLUG wrote:
Dick Goodman via WLUG <wlug@lists.wlug.org> writes:
I already have an SPF record which says: v=spf1 mx ~all, what's wrong with that?
LOTS. It doesn't specify a valid server. try this
"v=spf1 a:fcx2.keithdiane.us include:_spf.google.com ~all"
I don't like to copy stuff I don't understand, so I have been reading RFC's and log files. I don't see why "a:fcx2.keithdiane.us" would help, since I already told the (godaddy) namesever
mx @ fcx2.keithdiane.us. (Priority: 10) 1 Hour
but it seemed harmless, so I put it in. No visible change.
On the other hand "include:_spf.google.com" seems just wrong. I am not trying to get gmail.com to send my mail, I want them to accept it.
I am thinking that all those many various messages that say "gmail.com requires DKIM, SPF, TLS, DMARC, etc. are a pile of crimson herring. What they really mean is "gmail.com" does not want anyone else relaying mail from gmail, no matter how.
I notice that WLUG uses GNU Mailman, and that mail is modified, both body and headers, and that seems to work. I have, for 20 years, just been relaying mail unchanged. Maybe that simply does not work with the corporate monopoly internet. Maybe I need to use Mailman or something similar, so that the envelope MAIL FROM is rewritten to <mymail.org>.
GNU Mailman seems rather complex for that one thing. Is the wizard who set that up here on the WLUG list, or did you just delegate that? Is there a simpler way?
If anybody cares what I have been working on, part of it is on this page:
http://www.nerflings.org/none/fcs/vpsmove.html#gmail
If you can answer any of the quesions at the end of that page you may be eligible to apply to be my hero.
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