I think it would be prudent to set up a Patreon, Liberapay account, or some other crowd-funding method (if that hasn't been done already) so that we can have a simple way to pool WLUG funding and do so in a sustainable way so we don't have to jump through hoops for recurring monthly donations. I would gladly support WLUG with donations if it guaranteed funding for more hosted services. Having a one-click monthly donation button would make that a lot easier. - Josh On Thu, Feb 12, 2026 at 2:11 PM John Stoffel via WLUG <wlug@lists.wlug.org> wrote:
"steve---" == steve--- via WLUG <wlug@lists.wlug.org> writes:
What ever we decide if it ends up costing money Tim you should not take that on yourself. Can we at least provide an optional way to pitch in? A maybe a WLUG patreon?
I love this idea and will be happy to pitch in too.
On Feb 11, 2026, at 6:56 AM, Tim Keller via WLUG <
wlug@lists.wlug.org> wrote:
John's point that we are leaving people out of the loop because
they're not in the signal chat
is a valid concern.
Since I'm not paying for meetup.. I'd be down to clown to run a DO
droplet that hosted a
private *something* for us.
I do like the real-time nature of signal, I feel it has given wlug
the "community" thing that
in the mailing lacks. For better or worse this feels like yelling
into the ether instead of a
conversation.
We will definitely talk about this at the meeting tomorrow.
I've long talked about running a zulip server.. maybe that's an
option?
Tim.
On Tue, Feb 10, 2026, 9:33 PM Tracie Winslow <
traciewinslow7@gmail.com> wrote:
What about Mattermost?
"For a long time it seemed to me that life was about to begin -
real life. But there was
always some obstacle in the way, something to be gotten through
first, some unfinished
business, time still to be served, a debt to be paid. At last it
dawned on me that these
obstacles were my life. This perspective has helped me to see
there is no way to
happiness. Happiness is the way. So treasure every moment you
have and remember that time
waits for no one." - Souza
On Tue, Feb 10, 2026, 7:05 PM eroc1990 via WLUG <
wlug@lists.wlug.org> wrote:
I did. I've also witnessed these attacks first-hand on other
spaces. It's only a
problem for public servers because anyone can join. If your
space and rooms are
private, that attack vector closes.
-------- Original Message -------- On Tuesday, 02/10/26 at 17:20 John Stoffel via WLUG <
wlug@lists.wlug.org> wrote:
> "eroc1990" == eroc1990 <eroc1990@protonmail.com> writes:
Did you read the article i posted? Part of the issue is
CSAM being
pushed into matrix servers and the management was hard to
make work.
But maybe that's gotten better and if we ran our own server
it
wouldn't be a problem?
Something to talk about for sure on thursday. I'm not up on
these
tools at all, but I do want to make sure that email chats
and signal
chats are shared widely as possible.
And one of the choices I failed to list is:
- instant messages (signal) - email threads.
Those are two aspects. When I got home sunday and found
130+ messages
in signal to catch up on, it was pretty funny. But did I
really need
to read them all? Maybe. Did I enjoy it? Enventually once
I read
them.
But I like the mailing list and how I don't need to be
watching it
constantly, nor do I get dinged with notifications. Whcih
is both
good and bad. LOL!
John
I feel like the obvious winner in this case would be Matrix. Synapse can be a bit of a bear to set up, but you get E2EE in both 1:1 and Rooms, things can be organized into Spaces and you're able to freely join and leave any room or space that's irrelevant to you. Administration isn't all that bad when you're running a Private server, but it comes with costs in terms of the resources needed to store and serve the various components of Matrix. Would be curious if anyone has any proclivities toward another service with similar offerings.
On Tuesday, February 10th, 2026 at 3:49 PM, John Stoffel via WLUG < wlug@lists.wlug.org> wrote:
Hi all, A bunch of us are also chatting on signal (look in the email archives for a link to join!) and I feel like we're leaving the email forum users behind.
And we need to keep the WLUG community working together and sharing together, no matter what their systems or resources are.
I found this interesting article on replacing discord with something new.
https://taggart-tech.com/discord-alternatives/
And I thought we as a group show evaluate some of these options as well. In order of requirements I think:
- needs to be open - WLUG needs to control the data - needs to have clients across a swath of systems. - web based - CLI / plain text based - Apple/Android clients. - searchable - able to organize a bit into channels. - announcements - regular chat - questions or howtos
Right now I enjoy the signal chat and how free form it is, but since I can only read it on my phone because getting a CLI client working is a pain... and I don't want to install the signal app on my work laptop.
So what do people think?
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