On Thu, Feb 12, 2026 at 2:11 PM John Stoffel via WLUG <wlug@lists.wlug.org> wrote:

>>>>> "steve---" == steve--- via WLUG <wlug@lists.wlug.org> writes:

> What ever we decide if it ends up costing money Tim you should not
> take that on yourself. Can we at least provide an optional way to
> pitch in? A maybe a WLUG patreon?

I love this idea and will be happy to pitch in too.

> On Feb 11, 2026, at 6:56 AM, Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug@lists.wlug.org> wrote:

> John's point that we are leaving people out of the loop because they're not in the signal chat
> is a valid concern.

> Since I'm not paying for meetup.. I'd be down to clown to run a DO droplet that hosted a
> private *something* for us.

> I do like the real-time nature of signal, I feel it has given wlug the "community" thing that
> in the mailing lacks. For better or worse this feels like yelling into the ether instead of a
> conversation.

> We will definitely talk about this at the meeting tomorrow.

> I've long talked about running a zulip server.. maybe that's an option?

> Tim.

> On Tue, Feb 10, 2026, 9:33 PM Tracie Winslow <traciewinslow7@gmail.com> wrote:

> What about Mattermost?

> "For a long time it seemed to me that life was about to begin - real life. But there was
> always some obstacle in the way, something to be gotten through first, some unfinished
> business, time still to be served, a debt to be paid. At last it dawned on me that these
> obstacles were my life. This perspective has helped me to see there is no way to
> happiness. Happiness is the way. So treasure every moment you have and remember that time
> waits for no one."
> - Souza

> On Tue, Feb 10, 2026, 7:05 PM eroc1990 via WLUG <wlug@lists.wlug.org> wrote:

> I did. I've also witnessed these attacks first-hand on other spaces. It's only a
> problem for public servers because anyone can join. If your space and rooms are
> private, that attack vector closes.

> -------- Original Message --------
> On Tuesday, 02/10/26 at 17:20 John Stoffel via WLUG <wlug@lists.wlug.org> wrote:
>>>>>> "eroc1990" == eroc1990 <eroc1990@protonmail.com> writes:

> Did you read the article i posted? Part of the issue is CSAM being
> pushed into matrix servers and the management was hard to make work.
> But maybe that's gotten better and if we ran our own server it
> wouldn't be a problem?

> Something to talk about for sure on thursday. I'm not up on these
> tools at all, but I do want to make sure that email chats and signal
> chats are shared widely as possible.

> And one of the choices I failed to list is:

> - instant messages (signal)
> - email threads.

> Those are two aspects. When I got home sunday and found 130+ messages
> in signal to catch up on, it was pretty funny. But did I really need
> to read them all? Maybe. Did I enjoy it? Enventually once I read
> them.

> But I like the mailing list and how I don't need to be watching it
> constantly, nor do I get dinged with notifications. Whcih is both
> good and bad. LOL!

> John

>> I feel like the obvious winner in this case would be Matrix. Synapse
>> can be a bit of a bear to set up, but you get E2EE in both 1:1 and
>> Rooms, things can be organized into Spaces and you're able to freely
>> join and leave any room or space that's irrelevant to
>> you. Administration isn't all that bad when you're running a Private
>> server, but it comes with costs in terms of the resources needed to
>> store and serve the various components of Matrix. Would be curious
>> if anyone has any proclivities toward another service with similar
>> offerings.

>> On Tuesday, February 10th, 2026 at 3:49 PM, John Stoffel via WLUG <
> wlug@lists.wlug.org> wrote:

>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> A bunch of us are also chatting on signal (look in the email archives
>>> for a link to join!) and I feel like we're leaving the email forum
>>> users behind.
>>>
>>> And we need to keep the WLUG community working together and sharing
>>> together, no matter what their systems or resources are.
>>>
>>> I found this interesting article on replacing discord with something
>>> new.
>>>
>>> https://taggart-tech.com/discord-alternatives/
>>>
>>> And I thought we as a group show evaluate some of these options as
>>> well. In order of requirements I think:
>>>
>>>
>>> - needs to be open
>>> - WLUG needs to control the data
>>> - needs to have clients across a swath of systems.
>>> - web based
>>> - CLI / plain text based
>>> - Apple/Android clients.
>>> - searchable
>>> - able to organize a bit into channels.
>>> - announcements
>>> - regular chat
>>> - questions or howtos
>>>
>>> Right now I enjoy the signal chat and how free form it is, but since I
>>> can only read it on my phone because getting a CLI client working is a
>>> pain... and I don't want to install the signal app on my work
>>> laptop.
>>>
>>> So what do people think?
>>>
>>> John
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