Let's try Jitsi.
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 10:34:37AM -0400, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote:
> Hey Gang,
>
> I hope everybody is staying safe and healthy. While Linux doesn't need
> virus protection, we do. Wash your hands you filthy animals.
>
> As the subject reads, we're going to be doing the WLUG meeting online.
> I've been active in the wlug-ma irc channel as have others.
>
> What do people think about Jitsi for doing a video meetup?
>
> Refreshments will not be provided and we won't be going out for dinner!!
>
> Stay home, stay safe and I hope we'll all get to see each other soon.
>
> Later,
> Tim.
I have heard good things about Jitsi, but never tried it.
On 3/31/20 10:34 AM, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote:
> Hey Gang,
>
> I hope everybody is staying safe and healthy. While Linux doesn't need
> virus protection, we do. Wash your hands you filthy animals.
>
> As the subject reads, we're going to be doing the WLUG meeting online.
> I've been active in the wlug-ma irc channel as have others.
>
> What do people think about Jitsi for doing a video meetup?
>
> Refreshments will not be provided and we won't be going out for dinner!!
>
> Stay home, stay safe and I hope we'll all get to see each other soon.
>
> Later,
> Tim.
>
>
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> constituents as "consumers".
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Is the second Thursday of the month what we were doing?
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 10:35 AM Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org>
wrote:
> Hey Gang,
>
> I hope everybody is staying safe and healthy. While Linux doesn't need
> virus protection, we do. Wash your hands you filthy animals.
>
> As the subject reads, we're going to be doing the WLUG meeting online.
> I've been active in the wlug-ma irc channel as have others.
>
> What do people think about Jitsi for doing a video meetup?
>
> Refreshments will not be provided and we won't be going out for dinner!!
>
> Stay home, stay safe and I hope we'll all get to see each other soon.
>
> Later,
> Tim.
>
>
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> constituents as "consumers".
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I never got my webcam working, but I'll give Jitsi a try.
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 10:35 AM Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org>
wrote:
> Hey Gang,
>
> I hope everybody is staying safe and healthy. While Linux doesn't need
> virus protection, we do. Wash your hands you filthy animals.
>
> As the subject reads, we're going to be doing the WLUG meeting online.
> I've been active in the wlug-ma irc channel as have others.
>
> What do people think about Jitsi for doing a video meetup?
>
> Refreshments will not be provided and we won't be going out for dinner!!
>
> Stay home, stay safe and I hope we'll all get to see each other soon.
>
> Later,
> Tim.
>
>
> --
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> constituents as "consumers".
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Hey Gang,
I hope everybody is staying safe and healthy. While Linux doesn't need
virus protection, we do. Wash your hands you filthy animals.
As the subject reads, we're going to be doing the WLUG meeting online.
I've been active in the wlug-ma irc channel as have others.
What do people think about Jitsi for doing a video meetup?
Refreshments will not be provided and we won't be going out for dinner!!
Stay home, stay safe and I hope we'll all get to see each other soon.
Later,
Tim.
--
I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their
constituents as "consumers".
I know it's been mentioned, but wanted to point to two instances of it I
use frequently and offer some additional feedback.
There's the "premier" one, which is at https://meet.jit.si/ and is very
often running the very latest version.
The Mayfirst COOP also hosts an instance at https://meet.mayfirst.org/
This doesn't tend to be upgraded quite so frequently, so unless it lands
on a poor version, it's a great one to use.
Usually "just works" on phone/desktop fine. It can be a little glitchy,
and has not often performed very well for my coop more than about 10
participants or so. Desktop sharing, video, audio, and chat as well as
other features all function well on GNU/Linux save for some difficulty I
had with Sway WM/Wayland (which may well have been my shortcoming). I'm
not sure how dependent the limits we've seen are dependent upon the
infrastructure available, but I'm told it's not terribly difficult to
deploy an instance, but have yet to try myself.
FWIW, nearly every time, a quick page refresh (or two) for whomever is
having issues gets things working.
TBH, it's best to have a backup connection when using Jitsi (i.e. text
msg, etherpad, or IRC or whatever), or else to work with more
experienced users - e.g. those that will notice a message/open the chat
pane to read that they cannot be heard and to either un-mute or else
refresh their page.
--Chris
On 3/25/20 11:53 AM, Bradley Noyes via WLUG wrote:
> I have never used this software, but apparently nextcloud can do some
> kind of video conferencing with their package call “spreed"
>
> https://github.com/nextcloud/spreed
>
>
>
>
>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 10:55, Krichevsky, Nicholas J. via WLUG
>> <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org <mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org>> wrote:
>>
>> How much do you care about it being *VIDEO* by the way? If it's not
>> important, there's always Mumble...
>>
>> Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/ghei36>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* Michael Voorhis via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org
>> <mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org>>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2020 10:53:52 AM
>> *To:* Worcester Linux Users' Group General Discussion
>> <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org <mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org>>
>> *Cc:* Voorhis, Michael C <mvoorhis(a)wpi.edu
>> <mailto:mvoorhis@wpi.edu>>; Joshua Stone <joshua.gage.stone(a)gmail.com
>> <mailto:joshua.gage.stone@gmail.com>>
>> *Subject:* [EXT] [WLUG] Re: Free, viable videoconferencing ?
>>
>> On 3/25/20 10:38 AM, Joshua Stone via WLUG wrote:
>> > Zoom is a good option if using a Pro subscription.
>>
>> We're digressing a bit from the discussion-topic which is *free*
>> videoconferencing. My email was in retrospect ambiguous; I made
>> assumptions based on the listenership of my email.
>>
>> I was asking about FOSS videoconferencing. Jitsi appears to be the only
>> answer at this point.
>>
>> Thanks all,
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Zoom is a good option if using a Pro subscription. Lots of businesses
seem to depend on it for remote meetings thanks to the pandemic. It has
some nice features like video recording which could be used for sharing
on Youtube, and it doesn't require new users to create an account for
meetups.
I think Discord is also a good option with all of the features it
provides as a chat platform. I've been using it for remote D&D
sessions. One major downside of the Linux client is that you'll likely
have to use a workaround for a bug that causes video calls to
eventually crash the client:
https://github.com/flathub/com.discordapp.Discord/issues/30
I've been using a Gnome Shell extension to fix this:
https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/615/appindicator-support/
- Josh
On Wed, 2020-03-25 at 13:46 +0000, Krichevsky, Nicholas J. via WLUG
wrote:
> Zoom, aside from not being FOSS, limits calls to 40 minutes without
> paying. If we only care about free as in beer Discord is a great
> option, but if we care about free in the other sense, then I'm not
> sure I know if anything.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Get Outlook for Android
>
>
> From: Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org>
>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 9:44:41 AM
>
> To: Worcester Linux Users' Group General Discussion <
> wlug(a)lists.wlug.org>
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> Cc: Anderson, Charles R <cra(a)wpi.edu>; Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com>
>
> Subject: [EXT] [WLUG] Re: [EXT] Free, viable videoconferencing ?
>
>
>
>
> My kids have been using the Zoom plugin on Chrome on the chromebook
> so it'll work on linux.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 8:14 PM Chuck Anderson via WLUG <
> wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote:
>
>
> > On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 07:48:12PM -0400, Michael Voorhis via WLUG
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Does viable free videoconferencing software exist?
> >
> >
> >
> > Jitsi has been mentioned here before. I haven't looked into it:
> >
> >
> >
> > https://stackshare.io/stackups/jitsi-vs-zoom
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Richard,
I'm also using hexchat on debian and it works great. I think it's what
"xchat" turned into.
Later,
Tim.
On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 12:33 PM Richard Klein via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org>
wrote:
> I've got HexChat up and running on Debian. I'll look for it next time I
> boot into Windows.
>
> On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 12:29 PM hammerron via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Rich,
>>
>> Just fyi, I use hexchat
>>
>> It seems pretty easy to operate
>>
>> Ron
>> On 3/22/20 9:05 AM, Richard Klein via WLUG wrote:
>>
>> I vaguely remember mirc. Neither mirc nor pirch were available through
>> the Microsoft Store. I installed something, but never got around to trying
>> it, and now I'm wfh on my own computer. I'll still be booting into Windows
>> for work, so, whatever it was, I'll probably install it again. Now I'm
>> trying to decide on an IRC client for Debian/Gnome...
>>
>> --
>> Rich
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 5:04 PM Chris Thompson via WLUG <
>> wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote:
>>
>>> (PS - moderator, please ignore my last post from the incorrect
>>> address...doh! sorry.)
>>>
>>> LOL Chuck. That's not very nice, but...funny! :P
>>>
>>> Sorry to hear you are stuck with Windows 'cause of "the man". Haven't
>>> used it for a rather long time now, so I dunno if these still even
>>> exist, but mIRC I think was the last I used (before that Pirch rings a
>>> bell).
>>>
>>> There are great Web-based interfaces if you are maintaining a server
>>> somewhere - my favorite there is the node implementation called "The
>>> Lounge". https://thelounge.chat/docs Nice thing is it'll stay connected
>>> for
>>> you so you won't miss messages.
>>>
>>> --Chris
>>>
>>> On 3/18/20 2:30 PM, Chuck Anderson via WLUG wrote:
>>> > format c:
>>> >
>>> > (make sure to run from a CMD window with Administrator privileges)
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 02:22:25PM -0400, Richard Klein via WLUG wrote:
>>> >> Do you guys have a favorite IRC client for Windows?
>>> >>
>>> >> On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 1:28 PM Chris Thompson via WLUG <
>>> wlug(a)lists.wlug.org>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> I would certainly recommend organizing in IRC, but for more
>>> interaction,
>>> >>> Jitsi is worth a shot.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Zoom does work very well on Gnu/Linux, but yes - proprietary, so,
>>> >>> personally not interested in using them more than I already am
>>> coerced to
>>> >>> :P
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Jitsi usually handles rooms with up to about a dozen people pretty
>>> well,
>>> >>> but often struggles beyond that. Most issues are resolved with a
>>> simple
>>> >>> reload of the page.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Try it out @ either of these instances, no registration require:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> https://meet.jit.si/ (typically pretty bleeding-edge, so sometimes
>>> less
>>> >>> stable)
>>> >>>
>>> >>> or:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> https://meet.mayfirst.org/ (pretty up to date, but generally more
>>> stable
>>> >>> of late)
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Tim, you may be able to recover your ident info with the following,
>>> once
>>> >>> you've connected with #Freenode. If the name is registered with
>>> >>> NickServ, it'll email you at the registered address:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> /msg NickServ SENDPASS turbox
>>> >>>
>>> >>> --Chris
>>> >>> IRC: wolcen
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On 3/18/20 11:28 AM, Keith Wright via WLUG wrote:
>>> >>>>> Subject: [WLUG] Re: Physical WLUG Meeting is cancelled tomorrow...
>>> >>>>> From: madserge--- via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Never used IRC before but I do have an app on Manjaro called
>>> >>>>> Konversation that I think is a IRC client, would like to join if
>>> anyone
>>> >>>>> can tell me any info about the chat room that would be great!
>>> >>>> How did this work?
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> I used IRC once before. A friend said "let's try this",
>>> >>>> and told me what program to run and how to start.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> The conversation went something like:
>>> >>>> Hi, are you there? Yes. It works! Yes. Well goodbye.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> That was many years ago, and I have forgotten the name
>>> >>>> of the program. Then I got busy and forgot the WLUG
>>> >>>> meeting entirely.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Diane has been using something called Zoom on Windows.
>>> >>>> Google turns up some hints that Zoom can work on Linux,
>>> >>>> but it seems to be a binary mystery code that connects
>>> >>>> to the mother ship and does secret stuff...anybody know?
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constituents as "consumers".
I've got HexChat up and running on Debian. I'll look for it next time I
boot into Windows.
On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 12:29 PM hammerron via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org>
wrote:
> Rich,
>
> Just fyi, I use hexchat
>
> It seems pretty easy to operate
>
> Ron
> On 3/22/20 9:05 AM, Richard Klein via WLUG wrote:
>
> I vaguely remember mirc. Neither mirc nor pirch were available through
> the Microsoft Store. I installed something, but never got around to trying
> it, and now I'm wfh on my own computer. I'll still be booting into Windows
> for work, so, whatever it was, I'll probably install it again. Now I'm
> trying to decide on an IRC client for Debian/Gnome...
>
> --
> Rich
>
> On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 5:04 PM Chris Thompson via WLUG <
> wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote:
>
>> (PS - moderator, please ignore my last post from the incorrect
>> address...doh! sorry.)
>>
>> LOL Chuck. That's not very nice, but...funny! :P
>>
>> Sorry to hear you are stuck with Windows 'cause of "the man". Haven't
>> used it for a rather long time now, so I dunno if these still even
>> exist, but mIRC I think was the last I used (before that Pirch rings a
>> bell).
>>
>> There are great Web-based interfaces if you are maintaining a server
>> somewhere - my favorite there is the node implementation called "The
>> Lounge". https://thelounge.chat/docs Nice thing is it'll stay connected
>> for
>> you so you won't miss messages.
>>
>> --Chris
>>
>> On 3/18/20 2:30 PM, Chuck Anderson via WLUG wrote:
>> > format c:
>> >
>> > (make sure to run from a CMD window with Administrator privileges)
>> >
>> > On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 02:22:25PM -0400, Richard Klein via WLUG wrote:
>> >> Do you guys have a favorite IRC client for Windows?
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 1:28 PM Chris Thompson via WLUG <
>> wlug(a)lists.wlug.org>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I would certainly recommend organizing in IRC, but for more
>> interaction,
>> >>> Jitsi is worth a shot.
>> >>>
>> >>> Zoom does work very well on Gnu/Linux, but yes - proprietary, so,
>> >>> personally not interested in using them more than I already am
>> coerced to
>> >>> :P
>> >>>
>> >>> Jitsi usually handles rooms with up to about a dozen people pretty
>> well,
>> >>> but often struggles beyond that. Most issues are resolved with a
>> simple
>> >>> reload of the page.
>> >>>
>> >>> Try it out @ either of these instances, no registration require:
>> >>>
>> >>> https://meet.jit.si/ (typically pretty bleeding-edge, so sometimes
>> less
>> >>> stable)
>> >>>
>> >>> or:
>> >>>
>> >>> https://meet.mayfirst.org/ (pretty up to date, but generally more
>> stable
>> >>> of late)
>> >>>
>> >>> Tim, you may be able to recover your ident info with the following,
>> once
>> >>> you've connected with #Freenode. If the name is registered with
>> >>> NickServ, it'll email you at the registered address:
>> >>>
>> >>> /msg NickServ SENDPASS turbox
>> >>>
>> >>> --Chris
>> >>> IRC: wolcen
>> >>>
>> >>> On 3/18/20 11:28 AM, Keith Wright via WLUG wrote:
>> >>>>> Subject: [WLUG] Re: Physical WLUG Meeting is cancelled tomorrow...
>> >>>>> From: madserge--- via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Never used IRC before but I do have an app on Manjaro called
>> >>>>> Konversation that I think is a IRC client, would like to join if
>> anyone
>> >>>>> can tell me any info about the chat room that would be great!
>> >>>> How did this work?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I used IRC once before. A friend said "let's try this",
>> >>>> and told me what program to run and how to start.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The conversation went something like:
>> >>>> Hi, are you there? Yes. It works! Yes. Well goodbye.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> That was many years ago, and I have forgotten the name
>> >>>> of the program. Then I got busy and forgot the WLUG
>> >>>> meeting entirely.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Diane has been using something called Zoom on Windows.
>> >>>> Google turns up some hints that Zoom can work on Linux,
>> >>>> but it seems to be a binary mystery code that connects
>> >>>> to the mother ship and does secret stuff...anybody know?
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Rich,
Just fyi, I use hexchat
It seems pretty easy to operate
Ron
On 3/22/20 9:05 AM, Richard Klein via WLUG wrote:
> I vaguely remember mirc. Neither mirc nor pirch were available
> through the Microsoft Store. I installed something, but never got
> around to trying it, and now I'm wfh on my own computer. I'll still
> be booting into Windows for work, so, whatever it was, I'll probably
> install it again. Now I'm trying to decide on an IRC client for
> Debian/Gnome...
>
> --
> Rich
>
> On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 5:04 PM Chris Thompson via WLUG
> <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org <mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org>> wrote:
>
> (PS - moderator, please ignore my last post from the incorrect
> address...doh! sorry.)
>
> LOL Chuck. That's not very nice, but...funny! :P
>
> Sorry to hear you are stuck with Windows 'cause of "the man". Haven't
> used it for a rather long time now, so I dunno if these still even
> exist, but mIRC I think was the last I used (before that Pirch rings a
> bell).
>
> There are great Web-based interfaces if you are maintaining a server
> somewhere - my favorite there is the node implementation called "The
> Lounge". https://thelounge.chat/docs Nice thing is it'll stay
> connected for
> you so you won't miss messages.
>
> --Chris
>
> On 3/18/20 2:30 PM, Chuck Anderson via WLUG wrote:
> > format c:
> >
> > (make sure to run from a CMD window with Administrator privileges)
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 02:22:25PM -0400, Richard Klein via WLUG
> wrote:
> >> Do you guys have a favorite IRC client for Windows?
> >>
> >> On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 1:28 PM Chris Thompson via WLUG
> <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org <mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org>>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I would certainly recommend organizing in IRC, but for more
> interaction,
> >>> Jitsi is worth a shot.
> >>>
> >>> Zoom does work very well on Gnu/Linux, but yes - proprietary, so,
> >>> personally not interested in using them more than I already am
> coerced to
> >>> :P
> >>>
> >>> Jitsi usually handles rooms with up to about a dozen people
> pretty well,
> >>> but often struggles beyond that. Most issues are resolved with
> a simple
> >>> reload of the page.
> >>>
> >>> Try it out @ either of these instances, no registration require:
> >>>
> >>> https://meet.jit.si/ (typically pretty bleeding-edge, so
> sometimes less
> >>> stable)
> >>>
> >>> or:
> >>>
> >>> https://meet.mayfirst.org/ (pretty up to date, but generally
> more stable
> >>> of late)
> >>>
> >>> Tim, you may be able to recover your ident info with the
> following, once
> >>> you've connected with #Freenode. If the name is registered with
> >>> NickServ, it'll email you at the registered address:
> >>>
> >>> /msg NickServ SENDPASS turbox
> >>>
> >>> --Chris
> >>> IRC: wolcen
> >>>
> >>> On 3/18/20 11:28 AM, Keith Wright via WLUG wrote:
> >>>>> Subject: [WLUG] Re: Physical WLUG Meeting is cancelled
> tomorrow...
> >>>>> From: madserge--- via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org
> <mailto:wlug@lists.wlug.org>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Never used IRC before but I do have an app on Manjaro called
> >>>>> Konversation that I think is a IRC client, would like to
> join if anyone
> >>>>> can tell me any info about the chat room that would be great!
> >>>> How did this work?
> >>>>
> >>>> I used IRC once before. A friend said "let's try this",
> >>>> and told me what program to run and how to start.
> >>>>
> >>>> The conversation went something like:
> >>>> Hi, are you there? Yes. It works! Yes. Well goodbye.
> >>>>
> >>>> That was many years ago, and I have forgotten the name
> >>>> of the program. Then I got busy and forgot the WLUG
> >>>> meeting entirely.
> >>>>
> >>>> Diane has been using something called Zoom on Windows.
> >>>> Google turns up some hints that Zoom can work on Linux,
> >>>> but it seems to be a binary mystery code that connects
> >>>> to the mother ship and does secret stuff...anybody know?
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