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Re: [Wlug] Re: Next Meeting?

by donald vitkus

Stephen C. Daukas wrote: > Not to trigger a full blown debate... > > It doesn't matter what point *we* are at, it matters what point anyone > who decides to show up is at. It also doesn't matter what can fit on > a flash drive... You have to ask yourself who the intended audience > is. If it is techies who already know what a home directory is and > might end up playing with Linux without WLUG's help, then it doesn't > matter what you show, or if you demo more than one thing. > > If, however, you are trying to interest newbies who might decide to > stay with what they already have if the alternative is perceived as a > lot of work, then I would advise skipping the discussion about how > cool the technology is and focus on why a standard Linux distro is > useful. As I keep reminding my students - the technology is > meaningless, the important questions to ask is "what can you do with > it". If you really want to excite a lot of students, show them how > they can save money and, more importantly time, and still turn their > assignments in on time in a format acceptable to their professors! > > The reason for my initial comment in this thread was simple: In my > experience at WPI, a non-trivial minority of students do not have a > tremendous amount of experience with computers - even the self > professed "programmers." Students new to WPI are already overwhelmed > with some 30-40 hours a week of school work outside of class time. If > they are "into computers" then they are already interested enough to > invest their time based on the "technology is cool" camp. If, > however, they are interested in technology as a tool, they will look > at the demo, size up how much effort is involved (and that includes > how readily available the necessary information is and how easy that > info is to use), decide how helpful the venue is to trying Linux, > assess if Linux/WLUG/whatever is worth it to them, and make a > decision. If, as you say, the commercial distributions are no more > difficult to install than windows, then that is what we should be > showing, as well as OpenOffice, Mozilla, and so forth. > > Steve > > Matt Higgins wrote: > >>My 2 cents or less if you will. >> >>I think Knoppix is the way to go! The point is to showoff Linux-wares not to >>teach about a particular distributions configuration mechanism or file system >>layout. Knoppix is clean and impressive in many ways and does a great job at >>showing off what Linux can do. Furthermore we are to the point were a Linux >>install is no more difficult then a Windows install, particularly the commercial >>distributions; Red Hat, SuSe, Mandrake, Yellow Dog, etc... >> >>So thats my 2 cents or less, long live Slackware! >> >>Matt >> >>Quoting Steve Freitag <Steve.Freitag(a)alum.wpi.edu>: >> >> >> >>>I've recently spent a small amount of time playing around with both the SuSe >>>8.2 Live Eval, and Knoppix 7-26-03, so I thought I'd pass along my >>>observation >>> >>> >>> >>>Both default you into KDE and have a similar selection of apps (Like >>>OpenOffice, Mozilla, the GIMP etc). Knoppix happens to be based of Debian. >>> >>> >>> >>>There were a couple of things I liked about Knoppix. The first is that you >>>don't have to go through all the YaST screens when you boot, Knoppix just >>>boots right up to KDE and logs you on as user knoppix. The other neat thing >>>about Knoppix is that you can save your configuration and home directory of >>>the size you specify on a USB flash drive. With SuSE if you want to save >>>your configuration/home dir it creates a 100MB file on your hard drive (and >>>another 100MB for swap if you want). With Knoppix you can carry a cheap >>>($10 after rebate) 64MB USB flash drive around with you and a Knoppix CD and >>>boot a PC into your personal environment without touching the hard disk. >>> >>> >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf >>>Of Stephen C. Daukas >>>Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 4:23 PM >>>To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>>Subject: Re: [Wlug] Re: Next Meeting? >>> >>> >>> >>>Is introducing yet-another-flavor-of-linux useful? I understand what you >>>are trying to achieve, but one of the first questions that came to my mind >>>was "what is the difference between Knoppix and a regular Linux distro"? >>>(The first was actually "what the hell is Knopix"!) Will it be confusing to >>>the people looking at is verusus what they see when they look at SuSe, Red >>>Hat, etc.? >>> >>>Andy Stewart wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>On Monday 01 September 2003 4:52 pm, albutler33(a)netscape.net wrote: >>> >>> >>>Andy, >>> >>>I think a great topic especially for the new students would be "Fast Track >>>to Linux" where you introduce the GNOME and KDE desktops and a few of your >>>favorite tools and utilities. >>> >>>Al Butler >>> >>> >>> >>>HI Al, >>> >>>My most current thoughts are centered on Linux, its origins, the GPL, >>>WLUG/WPILA, and then segue into single CD demo distributions for folks who >>>want to "kick the tires", as it were, without fully committing their hard >>>drives to Linux. >>> >>>One such single CD demo distribution is Knoppix, which does have KDE (and >>>GNOME?). Once Knoppix is running, many things could be demonstrated. If I >>>go with this idea, I'd want to have copies of the Knoppix CD available for >>>people to take home, and hopefully they would try it at their leisure. >>> >>>How does that sound? Do people have additional ideas? Let's hear them! >>>:-) >>> >>>Later, >>> >>>Andy >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>__________________________________________________________________ >>>McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network. >>>Comprehensive protection for your entire computer. Get your free trial >>>today! >>>http://channels.netscape.com/ns/computing/mcafee/index.jsp?promo=393397 >>> >>>Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 free of charge. Download Now! >>>http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promo=380455 >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Wlug mailing list >>>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>-- >>>Stephen C. Daukas - stephen(a)daukas.com - http://daukas.com/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Wlug mailing list >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> >> >> >> > >-- >Stephen C. Daukas - stephen(a)daukas.com - http://daukas.com/ > > > I hope you will slow down the process if you have to trouble shoot the install of linux.

24 years, 11 months

Re: [Wlug] Re: Next Meeting?

by donald vitkus

Andy Stewart wrote: >On Monday 01 September 2003 4:52 pm, albutler33(a)netscape.net wrote: > > >>Andy, >> >>I think a great topic especially for the new students would be "Fast Track >>to Linux" where you introduce the GNOME and KDE desktops and a few of your >>favorite tools and utilities. >> >>Al Butler >> >> > >HI Al, > >My most current thoughts are centered on Linux, its origins, the GPL, >WLUG/WPILA, and then segue into single CD demo distributions for folks who >want to "kick the tires", as it were, without fully committing their hard >drives to Linux. > >One such single CD demo distribution is Knoppix, which does have KDE (and >GNOME?). Once Knoppix is running, many things could be demonstrated. If I >go with this idea, I'd want to have copies of the Knoppix CD available for >people to take home, and hopefully they would try it at their leisure. > >How does that sound? Do people have additional ideas? Let's hear them! :-) > >Later, > >Andy > > > > >>__________________________________________________________________ >>McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network. >>Comprehensive protection for your entire computer. Get your free trial >>today! >>http://channels.netscape.com/ns/computing/mcafee/index.jsp?promo=393397 >> >>Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 free of charge. Download Now! >>http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promo=380455 >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Wlug mailing list >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> > > > i am in school now but hope to still make the meetings

24 years, 11 months

Re: [Wlug] Re: Next Meeting?

by donald vitkus

albutler33(a)netscape.net wrote: >Andy, > >I think a great topic especially for the new students would be "Fast Track to Linux" where you introduce the GNOME and KDE desktops and a few of your favorite tools and utilities. > >Al Butler > >__________________________________________________________________ >McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network. >Comprehensive protection for your entire computer. Get your free trial today! >http://channels.netscape.com/ns/computing/mcafee/index.jsp?promo=393397 > >Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 free of charge. Download Now! >http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promo=380455 > >_______________________________________________ >Wlug mailing list >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > i agree since i get lost with linux

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