HI everyone,
This is a friendly reminder: the next WLUG meeting will be held on Wednesday,
March 14th at 7 PM in Kinnicutt Hall at WPI in Worcester, MA. Directions can be
found on the WLUG website:
http://www.wlug.org
WLUG members Doug Waud, Stephen Daukas, and Chuck Anderson have been working
together on the presentation for this meeting (at least that's the story I've
been given). They will be discussing their experiences with home networking.
Check out the WLUG website for a more detailed description of the focus of their
talk. I expect that this will be a good meeting for someone who might not have
setup a home network but is considering it.
After the presentation, if time allows, we'll open the floor for a general
question and answer session.
At the conclusion of the meeting, a group of us will head over to the Boynton
Restaurant for some pizza and beer.
As always, the meeting and the post-meeting festivities are open to anybody who
is interested in Linux. No secret handshake is required. :-)
See ya later,
Andy
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On Mon, Feb 19, 2001 at 12:50:39PM -0500, Brian J. Conway wrote:
> How about changing the list setup so that only subscribers can post?
Spam like this hasn't been a big problem so far... Unless that changes,
I'd rather leave it open posting.
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> Hey Everybody,
>
> 1st... I won't make it to the meeting tonight, but in regards to the
> installfest on Saturday, I'm looking for a couple more
> installers/volunteers...
>
> 2nd... I was reading slashdot and saw that some guy wrote an assembly
> compiler in Bash...
>
> I think next someone needs to write a bash shell in scheme...
>
Well, they're not the same thing, but psh is the perl shell (use perl for a
shell language) and esh is the lisp shell (easy shell)
jeff
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Hey Everybody,
1st... I won't make it to the meeting tonight, but in regards to the
installfest on Saturday, I'm looking for a couple more
installers/volunteers...
2nd... I was reading slashdot and saw that some guy wrote an assembly
compiler in Bash...
I think next someone needs to write a bash shell in scheme...
Later,
Tim.
Andy Stewart wrote:
>HI everybody,
>
>Our next meeting shall be held in Kinnicutt Hall on the WPI campus on
>Wednesday, September 10th, at 7:00 PM. Note that this location is not the
>same as last month. This is the room that we generally use for our meetings.
>
>At this meeting, the topic will be "An Introduction to Linux for Newcomers",
>and the intended audience is people who do not know much (if anything) about
>Linux, but do have experience with computers and perhaps Windows.
>
>I'll prepare some slides and discuss the following topics (and perhaps more):
>
>o What is Linux?
>o Origins of Linux
>o Software licensing
>o Computer requirements (memory, disk space, etc)
>o How to obtain a copy of Linux
>o How to "test drive" Linux without messing up my computer
>o More...
>o Q/A session during the meeting and afterwards
>o Demo of a single CD version of Linux which won't modify your existing files
>on the C: drive
>o Giveaway: copies of a single CD version of Linux (probably Knoppix and/or
>Suse Live Eval - can somebody help me burn a few copies?)
>
>Bring your friends - let's see if we can get them to at least "kick the tires"
>on Linux.
>
>After the meeting, we'll adjourn to the Boynton Restaurant for pizza and beer.
>
>See ya there!
>
>Andy
>
>
>
i can make copies if you sent me the image
donald vitkus
Stephen C. Daukas wrote:
> Not to trigger a full blown debate...
>
> It doesn't matter what point *we* are at, it matters what point anyone
> who decides to show up is at. It also doesn't matter what can fit on
> a flash drive... You have to ask yourself who the intended audience
> is. If it is techies who already know what a home directory is and
> might end up playing with Linux without WLUG's help, then it doesn't
> matter what you show, or if you demo more than one thing.
>
> If, however, you are trying to interest newbies who might decide to
> stay with what they already have if the alternative is perceived as a
> lot of work, then I would advise skipping the discussion about how
> cool the technology is and focus on why a standard Linux distro is
> useful. As I keep reminding my students - the technology is
> meaningless, the important questions to ask is "what can you do with
> it". If you really want to excite a lot of students, show them how
> they can save money and, more importantly time, and still turn their
> assignments in on time in a format acceptable to their professors!
>
> The reason for my initial comment in this thread was simple: In my
> experience at WPI, a non-trivial minority of students do not have a
> tremendous amount of experience with computers - even the self
> professed "programmers." Students new to WPI are already overwhelmed
> with some 30-40 hours a week of school work outside of class time. If
> they are "into computers" then they are already interested enough to
> invest their time based on the "technology is cool" camp. If,
> however, they are interested in technology as a tool, they will look
> at the demo, size up how much effort is involved (and that includes
> how readily available the necessary information is and how easy that
> info is to use), decide how helpful the venue is to trying Linux,
> assess if Linux/WLUG/whatever is worth it to them, and make a
> decision. If, as you say, the commercial distributions are no more
> difficult to install than windows, then that is what we should be
> showing, as well as OpenOffice, Mozilla, and so forth.
>
> Steve
>
> Matt Higgins wrote:
>
>>My 2 cents or less if you will.
>>
>>I think Knoppix is the way to go! The point is to showoff Linux-wares not to
>>teach about a particular distributions configuration mechanism or file system
>>layout. Knoppix is clean and impressive in many ways and does a great job at
>>showing off what Linux can do. Furthermore we are to the point were a Linux
>>install is no more difficult then a Windows install, particularly the commercial
>>distributions; Red Hat, SuSe, Mandrake, Yellow Dog, etc...
>>
>>So thats my 2 cents or less, long live Slackware!
>>
>>Matt
>>
>>Quoting Steve Freitag <Steve.Freitag(a)alum.wpi.edu>:
>>
>>
>>
>>>I've recently spent a small amount of time playing around with both the SuSe
>>>8.2 Live Eval, and Knoppix 7-26-03, so I thought I'd pass along my
>>>observation
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Both default you into KDE and have a similar selection of apps (Like
>>>OpenOffice, Mozilla, the GIMP etc). Knoppix happens to be based of Debian.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>There were a couple of things I liked about Knoppix. The first is that you
>>>don't have to go through all the YaST screens when you boot, Knoppix just
>>>boots right up to KDE and logs you on as user knoppix. The other neat thing
>>>about Knoppix is that you can save your configuration and home directory of
>>>the size you specify on a USB flash drive. With SuSE if you want to save
>>>your configuration/home dir it creates a 100MB file on your hard drive (and
>>>another 100MB for swap if you want). With Knoppix you can carry a cheap
>>>($10 after rebate) 64MB USB flash drive around with you and a Knoppix CD and
>>>boot a PC into your personal environment without touching the hard disk.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf
>>>Of Stephen C. Daukas
>>>Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 4:23 PM
>>>To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org
>>>Subject: Re: [Wlug] Re: Next Meeting?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Is introducing yet-another-flavor-of-linux useful? I understand what you
>>>are trying to achieve, but one of the first questions that came to my mind
>>>was "what is the difference between Knoppix and a regular Linux distro"?
>>>(The first was actually "what the hell is Knopix"!) Will it be confusing to
>>>the people looking at is verusus what they see when they look at SuSe, Red
>>>Hat, etc.?
>>>
>>>Andy Stewart wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Monday 01 September 2003 4:52 pm, albutler33(a)netscape.net wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Andy,
>>>
>>>I think a great topic especially for the new students would be "Fast Track
>>>to Linux" where you introduce the GNOME and KDE desktops and a few of your
>>>favorite tools and utilities.
>>>
>>>Al Butler
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>HI Al,
>>>
>>>My most current thoughts are centered on Linux, its origins, the GPL,
>>>WLUG/WPILA, and then segue into single CD demo distributions for folks who
>>>want to "kick the tires", as it were, without fully committing their hard
>>>drives to Linux.
>>>
>>>One such single CD demo distribution is Knoppix, which does have KDE (and
>>>GNOME?). Once Knoppix is running, many things could be demonstrated. If I
>>>go with this idea, I'd want to have copies of the Knoppix CD available for
>>>people to take home, and hopefully they would try it at their leisure.
>>>
>>>How does that sound? Do people have additional ideas? Let's hear them!
>>>:-)
>>>
>>>Later,
>>>
>>>Andy
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>
>
I hope you will slow down the process if you have to trouble shoot the
install of linux.
Andy Stewart wrote:
>On Monday 01 September 2003 4:52 pm, albutler33(a)netscape.net wrote:
>
>
>>Andy,
>>
>>I think a great topic especially for the new students would be "Fast Track
>>to Linux" where you introduce the GNOME and KDE desktops and a few of your
>>favorite tools and utilities.
>>
>>Al Butler
>>
>>
>
>HI Al,
>
>My most current thoughts are centered on Linux, its origins, the GPL,
>WLUG/WPILA, and then segue into single CD demo distributions for folks who
>want to "kick the tires", as it were, without fully committing their hard
>drives to Linux.
>
>One such single CD demo distribution is Knoppix, which does have KDE (and
>GNOME?). Once Knoppix is running, many things could be demonstrated. If I
>go with this idea, I'd want to have copies of the Knoppix CD available for
>people to take home, and hopefully they would try it at their leisure.
>
>How does that sound? Do people have additional ideas? Let's hear them! :-)
>
>Later,
>
>Andy
>
>
>
>
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i am in school now but hope to still make the meetings
albutler33(a)netscape.net wrote:
>Andy,
>
>I think a great topic especially for the new students would be "Fast Track to Linux" where you introduce the GNOME and KDE desktops and a few of your favorite tools and utilities.
>
>Al Butler
>
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i agree since i get lost with linux
