I have an Abit BX6r2 that I no longer use. I was running a Celeron 566
(nominally 66Mhz FSB) at a 100Mhz. A P3 850 uses the same multiplier, so it
will run on this board.
It's also a great overclocking board. You won't get that with an Intel.
I can bring it to the next meeting and you can test drive it first. If
you're interested, I'll let it go cheap.
From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:email@example.com]On
Behalf Of Stephen C. Daukas
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 8:40 AM
Subject: [Wlug] Searching for motherboards (was trading PIII)
I'm broadening the search a bit, and was wondering if anyone can recommend
some local hardware shops...
By way of repeating my situation, and giving a bit more detail, I have a
SECC2 (a.k.a. slot 1) PIII 850 processor that won't run on my motherboard
(an Intel SE440BX-2 Slot 1 type) because of motherboard rev issues. I am
offering a swap for a SECC2 PIII running at 550 or 600.
I am also now looking to see if anyone knows of a local source for a
motherboard capable of running a Slot 1 PIIIs at 850. This is older
technology (Intel no longer make Slot 1), so I need to see what I can find
that is already in the distribution channel.
I really like Intel boards, so Intel would be my first choice. Anyone know
of a local source, Intel or otherwise?
Wlug mailing list
Tim> That seems kind of odd. I would think you'd be able to run the
Tim> 850 underclocked to 600 without any problems.
The PIII chips are fixed clocks, you can't change the multiplier on
them (like you could on the celerons). At least that's what I
As for a trade, I've got a suspect motherboard with a pair of PIII
450s (or so, I can't remember right now) that I'd be willing to
I think the only thing I sorta maybe looking for is a really good
sound card to use with Linux. My DELL Precision 610MT (dual PIII Xeon
550) has a crappy builtin sound card (which I can't get to work with
ALSA) and I'm not happy with the Avance ALS4000 card I have either.
I'll try to make the next thursday night meeting and bring stuff for
> What firewall under linux would you suggest,
> what would the best way to set up a firewall-router box with two nic's?
I suspect this depends upon the distro. I recently upgraded my gateway
box from SuSE 6.3 to SuSE 7.2 and found that the default "Personal
Firewall" was exactly what I wanted. (I just use the web for browsing
and email so all my connections are started by me and so can easily be
"masqueraded" --- hidden from the web). It seems to give you
the same thing as that Linksys box Steven Daukas (is that a real name?)
suggested --- basically masquerading stuff coming from within and
anything unrelated from outside.
Again, setting up the nic's is the same with all distros if you approach
at the under the hood level but will differ if you use their
tools since the latter again are distro dependent. In the SuSE case,
Network Manual, pp 149 guides you through reasonably painlessly while
providing some idea of what is going on.
Now, all bets are off if you want to provide some service like a web
or ftp server because then you have to do more than just masquerading
that does require you to become more familiar with how a firewall works.
As to the two nics, basically you will set up one, say eth0, which is
to your cable/dsl modem as a dhcp client which will get its ip address
the isp (I assume that, since you are asking a basic question, you did
spring for a fixed ip address which is more expensive; I also assume
have a broadband connection since you specify two nics). The other nic,
say eth1, you set up with a fixed IP address on your local net, for
If, at this point, your head is swimming, you can either
look at the slides from an old WLUG presentation on networking
(go to WLUG site, find "Past meeting information" and go to
the March 2001, stuff. Slides 47 and 48 give a back to basics
summary of the difference between a hub and a switch incidentally)
or look into the manual(s) that come with your distro and see if they
are as useful as those for SuSE
or, get back to me (I suggest directly so we do not clutter the WLUG
mail list more than I have been doing lately :-) ) and I am quite
willing to try to walk you through the process on a slower one-on-one
step-by-step process. The hazards here are that (1) I can easily get in
over my head (but, I believe, am willing at least to let you know
when that happens) and (2) you may end up wishing as in the Tom
Lehrer song "You should never have let me begin ... " :-)
While I think having an ISO image for download would be a good idea, a
general download area where folks can post items of interest, say from one
of the WLUGs, might be a better idea. That way, if someone has items that
have been discussed in either a meeting or on the mailing list, then they
can put it somewhere for others to grab.
Of course, there is the perennial problem of making sure this isn't used
for illicit materials and/or that the site isn't swamped, but there are
many ways to manage that. Most companies have an area for this sort of
thing and I'll bet we could come up with a solution as well.
Too bad I can't make the next meeting, but I'll bet a good discussion over
pizza and beer might yield some good ideas!
P.S. I'm just in the process of building a new RH server machine for
myself and my domains. I plan on having such a download area and would be
interested in being educated as to the pros and cons of that sort of
service. I had thought about putting Linux stuff in there, so maybe there
is a potential fit with WLUG?
I will not be able to attend - the boss insists we celebrate Valentines
Day. Catch you at the next one.
At 09:22 PM 2/11/2002, you wrote:
>This e-mail is to remind you about the upcoming WLUG meeting, to be held
>on Thursday, February 14th, 2002, in Kinnicutt Hall on the WPI campus.
>This is our "normal" meeting location.
>At this meeting, WLUG member Marc Hughes will be presenting some
>information about Borland's Kylix software which runs on Linux. For more
>info, consult http://www.borland.com/kylix.
> I'll be showing the kylix development environment, touching
> briefly on
> the licensing issues with their "free" version, creating a small app,
> and then showing off a larger more complex application. Time
> permitting, I'll quickly go over some other development environments
> such as Kdeveloper and glade.
>Also at this meeting, I'll give a quick financial report and we'll talk
>about the results of the install fest from this past weekend. There will
>be a couple of items available for raffle.
>Refreshments will be available. After the meeting, we'll go to the
>Boynton Restaurant for pizza and beer. This has become quite a tradition
>after WLUG meetings and is a great time.
>See ya on Thursday,
>Worcester Linux Users' Group
>Worcester, MA, USA
>Wlug mailing list
> This e-mail is to remind you about the upcoming WLUG meeting, to be held
> on Thursday, February 14th, 2002, in Kinnicutt Hall on the WPI campus.
> This is our "normal" meeting location.
Are you implying that geeks and Valentine's Day are mutually exclusive?
Brian J. Conway
"LINUX is obsolete"
- Andrew S. Tanenbaum, creator of Minix - Jan 29, 1992
This e-mail is to remind you about the upcoming WLUG meeting, to be held
on Thursday, February 14th, 2002, in Kinnicutt Hall on the WPI campus.
This is our "normal" meeting location.
At this meeting, WLUG member Marc Hughes will be presenting some
information about Borland's Kylix software which runs on Linux. For more
info, consult http://www.borland.com/kylix.
I'll be showing the kylix development environment, touching briefly on
the licensing issues with their "free" version, creating a small app,
and then showing off a larger more complex application. Time
permitting, I'll quickly go over some other development environments
such as Kdeveloper and glade.
Also at this meeting, I'll give a quick financial report and we'll talk
about the results of the install fest from this past weekend. There will
be a couple of items available for raffle.
Refreshments will be available. After the meeting, we'll go to the
Boynton Restaurant for pizza and beer. This has become quite a tradition
after WLUG meetings and is a great time.
See ya on Thursday,
Worcester Linux Users' Group
Worcester, MA, USA
The installfest was a complete success!
Total Installs: 8
Percentage successful: 100%
Installs that were a no-show: ~2 (both Stratus employees, I'll be hunting
them down later today...)
Pizzas Ordered: 6
Percentage devoured: 100%
Number of junker pc's that one installee cannibalized to make one working
Congratulations to Colin Novick and Bill Mills-Curran who both won copies of
"Linux System Administration: A Users Guide."
(If I've forgotten anybody, just send an addendum...)
Someone asked about the goodies CD's... There are a couple of things.
1. If Chuck has the space, I'd gladly upload it and he can mount it on a
2. I will cut a couple more copies (I might add some more stuff) and bring
them to the meeting on Thursday. If you specify want a copy, drop me a line
and I'll make you up one explicitly.
This year was a resounding success and I'm hoping that the 5th annual will
be even better!
On Sun, 10 Feb 2002, Andy Stewart wrote:
AS>If you can make it to the WLUG meeting on Thursday, you could probably
AS>pick up a copy from somebody. I don't know if Tim has any extras, but I'd
AS>make you a copy of mine if he didn't.
i'll probably kick myself for even suggesting this, but what about having
an .ISO image available to download?
yes, i know it's huge, but having all that stuff in one place would be
nice! the download wouldn't be any worse than trying to grab a Linux
William Smith wsmith(a)chezsmith.com
Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com