> On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 04:57:30PM -0400, Keith Wright wrote:
>> As I said, I have never (knowingly) used the camera or microphone
>> on this computer, nor even the speaker/headphones.
I been messing with it a bit. When trying to listen to WBUR,
it seems random, sometimes works, usually not. Websites that
tell you how to pronounce words, I can hear them. Program vlc
with a *.mp4, I can hear. I don't know how to test the microphone.
>> (1) Did you guys see me?
Chuck Anderson <cra(a)alum.wpi.edu> writes:
> Yes we saw you. We also saw and replied to your text chat messages.
Sorry, I stumbled into the text chat, but did not see the reply,
probably not because anything was wrong, but because I was busy
trying to get the sound working and logged in and out repeatedly
without looking for text.
>> (2) Is the URL https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA still active? Does
>> it work with Microsoft Windows?
> I don't know.
The URL is still sitting there. Diane logged in with a MS computer
and I with my Linux. We could see each other, mostly, but no sound.
>> (3) Does HTML5 require DHCP to redirect or forward the data stream?
> No. Your stream worked fine.
I'm not so sure. I'm starting to suspect the firewall. I have a lot
of blocked IP addresses that have accumulated over the years. I don't
know what they are nor recall what they did to offend me years ago.
On the other hand, when I start jit.si it has a button that
says "Join Meeting", when I click it, it pops up another button
that says "Join without sound", no other choice, so I choose that.
Maybe it can't find the microphone, so it turns off the loudspeaker?
But when it starts up it has a message at the bottom that says:
"It sounds like your microphone is working". The Multimedia==>
Pulseaudio==>Input device has a jumping blue line that reacts to
sounds I make, so I know there is a microphone in there somewhere.
> What Debian version are you running? What web browser and version?
kwright@fcs22:~$ uname -a
Linux fcs22 4.9.0-12-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 4.9.210-1 (2020-01-20) i686 GNU/Linux
Help==>About==> Mozilla Firefox Quantum 68.7.0esr (32-bit)
Maybe I'll see you next time, but busy websites and video seem to make
it overheat even when they sort-of work. I'm a black-and-white
Greek subscript kind of guy. If it weren't for the virus I would
be happy with TeX, Scheme, and email; I wouldn't be trying to turn my
good computer into a bad television.
-- Keith
On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 04:57:30PM -0400, Keith Wright wrote:
> Chuck Anderson via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes:
> > "HTML5" and "WebRTC".
> As I said, I have never (knowingly) used the camera or microphone
> on this computer, nor even the speaker/headphones. But I have
> a few questions:
>
> (1) Did you guys see me? I tried to join WLUG meeting last Thu.
> I never got sound, but I saw some people I recognized, and
> a picture of myself. I was the guy with the big head. It actually
> looked bigger than it is, partly because of the firmware in the
> standard laptop camera which uses AI to zoom in and magnify
> any slight hint of receding hair, and partly because I was leaning
> back in a comfy chair with the "Lap"top on my chest.
Yes we saw you. We also saw and replied to your text chat messages.
> (2) Is the URL https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA still active? Does
> it work with Microsoft Windows? I am thinking that I could test
> it out by connecting to WlugMA with my Linux computer while Diane
> connects with her MS computer. Then we could debug by shouting across
> the living room.
I don't know. You could always try creating your own meeting URL. It is free to use.
> (3) Does HTML5 require DHCP to redirect or forward the data stream?
No. Your stream worked fine.
> (4) Is there a standard codec or is that something that must be
> installed to match the whim of the website?
You said you saw us but didn't hear us. We saw you but didn't hear you. Then after the meeting you found the volume control and turned it up which allowed other audio applications to be heard. I'm guessing you have all the codecs you need already, and you just needed to have raised the volume. The same Pulseaudio control panel should also have a Microphone volume slider and/or mute button that you may need to turn up or unmute.
What Debian version are you running? What web browser and version?
Chuck Anderson via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes:
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 05:59:12PM -0400, Keith Wright via WLUG wrote:
>> so I plan to try it tonight. I'll report back to this list.
>>
>> I have never used the camara or microphone on this laptop,
>> I don't know if I have used sound output, it was long
>> ago and might have been a different machine,
>>
>> Is video chat built into the browser now?
>
> Yes, video chat is built into all modern browsers. They call it
> "HTML5" and "WebRTC".
Thank you. HTML5 is a good search key. I have a lot of reading to do,
but already I learned from wikipedia that
>> In early November 2011, Adobe announced that it would discontinue
>> development of Flash
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML5#%22Thoughts_on_Flash%22
I noticed that it seemed to be going away, but thought it was just
web site developers getting smarter: "Hey Joe, Why do we make the
customers download flash before we tell them about our product?"
It's more official than that.
>> What exactly does Zoom or jit.si do then?
>
> It starts up a WebRTC session over HTTPS to the jit.si server using
> your microphone and camera to send your video/audio,
As I said, I have never (knowingly) used the camera or microphone
on this computer, nor even the speaker/headphones. But I have
a few questions:
(1) Did you guys see me? I tried to join WLUG meeting last Thu.
I never got sound, but I saw some people I recognized, and
a picture of myself. I was the guy with the big head. It actually
looked bigger than it is, partly because of the firmware in the
standard laptop camera which uses AI to zoom in and magnify
any slight hint of receding hair, and partly because I was leaning
back in a comfy chair with the "Lap"top on my chest.
(2) Is the URL https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA still active? Does
it work with Microsoft Windows? I am thinking that I could test
it out by connecting to WlugMA with my Linux computer while Diane
connects with her MS computer. Then we could debug by shouting across
the living room.
After I quit the WLUG meeting, a poked some menu buttons I had not
before and discovered Multimedia ==> PulseAudio Volume Control.
By turning that up, I can reliably get sound while playing a *.mp4
with vlc. I tried listening to radio stations (wicn, wbur, wgbh)
and it mostly didn't work, but once or twice it did work.
I really have no idea why it is sometime but not always.
I did notice that when I click (what I take to be) the button
to listen to streaming radio over internet it starts looking
up all kinds of things I did not ask for (facebook, twitter,
chartbeat). I'm wondering if I might have a DNS (named) problem.
I have never set up DHCP here, I just assign a static IP address
each time I get a new computer. That does not happen often enough
to be worth automation.
(3) Does HTML5 require DHCP to redirect or forward the data stream?
(4) Is there a standard codec or is that something that must be
installed to match the whim of the website?
-- Keith (Wright) aka Egghead
David> I would like to build my own network router/gateway and I would like
David> some feedback regarding options.
This is a good option.
David> I would like to separate the WIFI from the router. I plan on
David> buying multiple Wireless Access Points to handle WIFI within
David> the house and WIFI in the back yard. The backyard WAP will be
David> powered over Ethernet.
I'm using the TPlink EAP225 at home and I've been pretty happy with
them. I've got the Ormada Java controller software running as well.
The only annoyance is that if they lose their minds, the default
subnet is 192.168.0.x and it defaults to .1 or .10 as I recall.
Otherwise they seem to be pretty solid. I recently upgraded from a
pair of Netgear WNDR3700s that I was running OpenWRT on.
David> Also I want a router distribution that give me lots of
David> flexibility in what I can install and is kept up to date with
David> regard to security.
For my home router I'm using OPNsense running on a PCengines APU with
three 1gig network ports. I purposely didn't get the Wifi versions.
I've also got a 64gb SSD in there as my boot media, and I'm using very
little of the SSD, so I expect it to last quite a while.
Now if you add a bunch of modules, I suspect that you really want to
get a higher performance system.
David> It looks like my choices for distributions are dd-wrt, openwrt,
David> and tomahto (tomato). Any thoughts?
I've given up on dd-wrt for the APs. It's just too painful to try and
figure out which version of the software to use, etc. Maybe openwrt
would have been a better choice? But this hardware was getting old
and long in the tooth.
For years and years I used m0n0wall since it was simple, fast,
lightweight and just did the job right. So right now I''ve been using
OpnSense for the past three or four years and I'm ok with it for my
router.
David> So far the only hardware option that I have encountered is
David> Seeed Studio's ODYSSEY – X86J4105. It comes with a case and a
David> power supply. The project is described in
David> https://www.seeedstudio.com/blog/2020/02/24/how-to-build-your-own-openwrt-r…
Looks interesting. I'm using the apu2 from pcengines.ch and I like it
because it's quiet and low power and handles my home network needs no
problem. Probably the three interface version. I like them alot
since they're solid state, no moving parts.
If you have over 200gbit internet at home, then the APU2 might not
meet your needs... but honestly, it's been working really well for me
for years.
I'm also running the latest 20.3 releasr of OpnSense and it's ... ok.
Not wild about the GUI. And if you want to run traffic shaping, or
anti-virus or squid proxy, then you will need a bigger box than the
APU2 series. But at that point, you may as well find an old PC and
use that.
Good luck,
John
On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 05:59:12PM -0400, Keith Wright via WLUG wrote:
> I don't know what the package is for, but somebody on this list
> said that it should work just to put the link into a browser,
> so I plan to try it tonight. I'll reoort back to this list.
>
> I have never used the camara or microphone on this laptop,
> I don't know if I have used used sound output, it was long
> ago and might have been a different machine,
>
> Is video chat built into the browser now?
Yes, video chat is built into all modern browsers. They call it
"HTML5" and "WebRTC".
> What exactly does Zoom or jit.si do then?
It starts up a WebRTC session over HTTPS to the jit.si server using
your microphone and camera to send your video/audio, while the web
server jit.si sends the video/audio of all the other participants back
to your browser. Each participant appears as a small video window in
a "grid" on the web page. So the server acts as a "video router".
> And what's in that Debian jit.si package?
I haven't looked at the Debian package, but since the server side of
jitsi is open source (the client side is open source if you use
Firefox or Chromium or similar to access the server), I'd imagine that
the Debian package contains the server code. jit.si the web site runs
the open source code from jitsi.org. Anyone can run their own web
server for people to connect to for creating their own video
conference:
https://jitsi.org/what-is-jitsi/
Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes:
> Hey Everybody,
>
> We've got a virtual wlug meeting on Thursday October 15th, 2020!
Hey, that's tonight. I almody forgot.
> Time: 7pm
> Date: Oct 15th, 2020
> Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA
> Topic: As usual TBD. I will show off my CNC machine and where I'm at with
> it, but besides that, I expect the usual level of banter.
The first time WLUG had a jitsi meeting, I searched for it
and found a Debian package that I thought I had to install.
I dinna wanna.
I don't know what the package is for, but somebody on this list
said that it should work just to put the link into a browser,
so I plan to try it tonight. I'll reoort back to this list.
I have never used the camara or microphone on this laptop,
I don't know if I have used used sound output, it was long
ago and might have been a different machine,
Is video chat built into the browser now?
What exactly does Zoom or jit.si do then?
And what's in that Debian jit.si package?
-- Keith
Hey Everybody,
We've got a virtual wlug meeting on Thursday October 15th, 2020!
Time: 7pm
Date: Oct 15th, 2020
Location: https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA
Topic: As usual TBD. I will show off my CNC machine and where I'm at with
it, but besides that, I expect the usual level of banter.
Hope to see some familiar faces and new ones as well!
Later,
Tim.
--
I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their
constituents as "consumers".
Hey Everybody, let's try this again!
I have a conflict on the 8th and the second week of October snuck up on me.
We will be having the meeting *October 15th, 2020!*
Sorry for any confusion the last confusing email created!
Thanks,
TIm.
--
I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their
constituents as "consumers".
Hey Everybody,
I've decided to push the meeting off to the 8th. This is mainly because the
second week of October snuck up on me and because I have conflict that
night.
Hopefully by then I'll have a little project I've been working on ready to
show off.
Later,
Tim.
--
I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their
constituents as "consumers".
What a handful of information in two emails. Thank you very much.
Well a lot to check and learn. In any case, I am preparing myself for the
RHCSA exam this December. The more Linux staff the better it is for me.
Respectfully,
Mher Mnatsakanyan
On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 at 21:22, Jon "maddog" Hall via WLUG <
wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote:
> Mher,
>
> Another way you can "sharpen your skills" is to check out the objectives
> of the Linux Professional Institute's LPIC-1 and LPIC-2 tests (lpi.org).
>
> https://www.lpi.org/our-certifications/lpic-1-overview
>
> https://www.lpi.org/our-certifications/lpic-2-overview
>
> Although we do list training partners and offer some training materials,
> we do not do training ourselves, only certifications. We have 180,000
> certified people in over 180 countries.
>
> If you look through our objectives for each level and you can honestly say
> that you can do each objective, then you have the skills that many
> companies want. If you get to some of the objectives and say "I do not
> know how to do that", then you can spend some of your time looking it up
> and practicing so when you go for that interview and are asked about it you
> can tell them with confidence that you can do it.
>
> For full disclosure, I am the Board Chair of LPI.
>
> Good luck in your job hunt.
>
> maddog
>
> On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 8:45 PM Aljerin Butler,Jr. via WLUG <
> wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote:
>
>> Hello Mher,
>>
>> Perhaps you can start here
>> <https://www.indeed.com/q-Linux-System-Administrator-Work-From-Home-jobs.html>
>> to look for a Linux sysadmin position. If you want to do a wider search,
>> perhaps this
>> <http://customdesktopsolutions.mywebcommunity.org/index.php/linux-system-adm…>
>> is more helpful.
>> If you want to take advantage of your time at home here is where you can
>> strengthen your skills
>> <http://customdesktopsolutions.mywebcommunity.org/index.php/linux-system-adm…>
>> .
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>> Al Butler
>> Custom Desktop Solutions
>> <http://customdesktopsolutions.mywebcommunity.org/>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, September 12, 2020, 10:46:40 AM EDT, Mher Mnatsakanyan via
>> WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hello everyone.
>>
>> Zori told me that you guys had another wonderful WLUG meeting yesterday.
>> I wish I could also make it to the WLUG meeting yesterday.
>>
>> It's been over three months now that I was among the 250 people (1/3 of
>> the company) that got laid off because of COVID19 crisis from Bullhorn. I
>> was one of their Linux Sys Admins.
>>
>> If any of you guys know of any entry level Sysadmin positions locally.
>> Please keep me in mind if something pops up.
>>
>> I really appreciate it.
>>
>> Hope to see you at next month's meeting.
>>
>> Respectfully,
>> Mher Mnatsakanyan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 at 16:22, John Stoffel via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I wish I had know about the meeting, I would have loved to join.
>> Silly me for not checking the website at least.
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