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Re: [Wlug] Fw: RE: show

by Gregory Avedissian

Makes sense to me, Tim. Easy replacement is the selling point, and in some ways it's been the stumbling block to my converting entirely to linux. I still use Windows for a couple of tasks that either can't be done in linux (yet) or I haven't figured them out in linux yet (unsupported scanner). Show people that they can do the things they need to do with a minimal amount of effort and without having to pay microsoft, and there will be plenty of converts. Most of the things that most people do with their computers can now be done in linux without having to read a manual, and people need to know that. Greg Keller, Tim wrote: > Yury, > > You can count me in. I also know my way around a TV production studio. > > We had talked about doing an introduction to linux. As an aside to that I > was thinking that possibly we could do a show on equivalent pieces of > software on the linux side of things that could replace (perceived) missing > functionality. This would include stuff like Evolution, Mozilla, GnuCash, > OpenOffice, mplayer, xmms, etc. > > What do people think? > > Thanks, > Tim. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Yury I Vashugin [mailto:vashugins@juno.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 12:56 PM > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Cc: wlug(a)wlug.org > Subject: [Wlug] Fw: RE: show > > > hi, everyone. > since we talked about producing an educational show about linux and > putting it 'in-the-air' at the last wlug meeting and i saw a very > enthusiastic response so i've reserved the studio for oct.21(see below). > there's a problem with a converter but i'm sure we can find a laptop with > a video output. > for the show we need two cameramen(anyone can do that; very simple duties > and can be learned within 3-5 min), a show host and guests. > please, bring any suggestions or/and recommendations. thanks. > yury > > --------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Marc Serra <mserra(a)ci.shrewsbury.ma.us> > To: 'Yury I Vashugin' <vashugins(a)juno.com> > Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 13:42:56 -0400 > Subject: RE: show > Message-ID: <A7F72312FF5DB348BE2D037A6FE5F1C1407EC2@selpnt2> > > Yes. > > Does anybody in the group have access to a scan converter or can you use > a > computer with a video card output? Since we spoke about it, our last scan > converter was put into service to be used on one of our channel's for our > bulletin board. For you to use it, we would have to take a channel off > the > air. I know that a lot of laptops have video out. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Yury I Vashugin [mailto:vashugins@juno.com] > Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 11:48 AM > To: mserra(a)ci.shrewsbury.ma.us > Subject: show > > > marc, > can i reserve the studio for half-an-hour show on tuesday, october 21 at > 6:30 (actually it will not be a show; just a preliminary stuff- what > light, what background, what settings we want for 'linux show', to try a > scanner converter etc)? > yury > > ________________________________________________________________ > The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! > Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

21 years, 6 months

Re: [Wlug] Wlug Digest, Vol 55, Issue 4

by Simeon MacMillen

Thanks Andy! I will set this up as soon as I have a chance. Simeon MacMillen KC2THZ On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 12:00 PM, <wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org> wrote: > Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. port security question (Simeon MacMillen) > 2. Re: port security question (Andy Stewart) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 23:00:53 -0400 > From: "Simeon MacMillen" <penguinem(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [Wlug] port security question > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Message-ID: > <4bffb9c50805112000i6096280cx82e1a8316b14b92e(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > I'm trying to set up Echolink (amateur radio software) on Ubuntu > (through WINE). My computer failed the firewall tests -the > troubleshooting material recommended the following: > > Allow UDP destination ports 5198-5199 between Internet and PC in both directions > Allow TCP (source port any, destination port 5200) from PC to Internet > > What security risks do I introduce by doing this? (Is it worth the risk?) > > Thanks, > Simeon MacMillen > > P.S. I've been on the Wlug mailing list for a year, though I've only > managed to make it to one meeting so far. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 07:16:16 -0400 > From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] port security question > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: <48282700.6040704(a)comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Simeon MacMillen wrote: > > I'm trying to set up Echolink (amateur radio software) on Ubuntu > > (through WINE). My computer failed the firewall tests -the > > troubleshooting material recommended the following: > > > > Allow UDP destination ports 5198-5199 between Internet and PC in both directions > > Allow TCP (source port any, destination port 5200) from PC to Internet > > > > What security risks do I introduce by doing this? (Is it worth the risk?) > > > > Hi Simeon, > > For those who may not know, "EchoLink? software allows licensed Amateur > Radio stations to communicate with one another over the Internet, using > voice-over-IP (VoIP) technology." (from www.echolink.org) > > I'm wondering if EchoLinux would do the job for you instead of using > WINE. See http://cqinet.sourceforge.net/. > > I don't think there should be a problem opening these ports for EchoLink > use. On my machine, the ports are unassigned. > > Have fun, and 73, > > Andy > > - -- > Andy Stewart, Founder > Worcester Linux Users' Group (http://www.wlug.org) > Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group (http://linux.meetup.com/393) > Amateur Radio: KB1OIQ > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFIKCcAHl0iXDssISsRAsoyAJwIN0qNy84466h/70yMPe/qnAu5bgCeMNJ6 > wwDuk25YYaCWVxvMiN+t71Y= > =D1kk > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > End of Wlug Digest, Vol 55, Issue 4 > *********************************** >

16 years, 11 months

Re: [Wlug] OPENING - Mid to Sr level SW Engineer - Linux, C++

by Gary Hanley

It would be surprising of they asked for anything else. Even if it is a "Linux" job, the corporate/business world is dominated by MS products. On 06/18/2012 03:35 PM, Frank Sweetser wrote: > Not that surprising. It's not uncommon for companies to outsource the > mechanics of hiring process (publishing listings, storing resumes, meeting > resume retention laws, etc), and even if it's only being read by in-house > people, the HR staff who get first crack at it are non-technical people likely > to be on Windows or Mac anyway. > > Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that > Manager of Network Operations | is simple, elegant, and wrong. > Worcester Polytechnic Institute | - HL Mencken > > > On 06/18/2012 03:12 PM, Clint Moyer wrote: >> Please send a Word version of your resume... For a "Linux" job. >> >> >> On Jun 18, 2012, at 1:52 PM, John Spencer<jspencer(a)connectedsp.com >> <mailto:jspencer@connectedsp.com>> wrote: >> >>> We are seeking a Mid to Sr level Software Engineer to be responsible for >>> software design and development solutions. This is a perm position north of >>> Boston. >>> >>> Responsible for Software Development Life Cycle including design, >>> development, integration and test >>> " Demonstrable ability to communicate complex concepts verbally and in writing >>> " Responsible for major portions of software projects. >>> " Write system design and specifications >>> " Development in accordance with design requirements >>> " Perform software verification procedures and document results >>> " Generate software release >>> >>> Skills& Experience >>> " BSCS or related technical degree >>> " 4+ years of strong C++ and Linux >>> " Strong Object Oriented Design experience >>> " Background with multi-threading and Boost libraries >>> " Experience with software design patterns >>> " Ability to work with vendors, customers and other engineering groups >>> " Experience with medical devices or experience in a regulated industry >>> " Strong written and verbal communication skills >>> >>> Please send a Word version of your resume with any questions. >>> Please Note, your resume will not be sent anywhere without your prior approval. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> John Spencer >>> >>> >>> >>> Connected Systems Partners >>> >>> /Connecting Top Talent with Top Companies/ >>> >>> >>> >>> 978-455-5550 x208 >>> >>> 978-621-9743 cell >>> >>> jspencer(a)connectedsp.com<mailto:jspencer@connectedsp.com> >>> >>> >>> >>> www.connectedsp.com<www.connectedsp.com%20> >>> >>> * * >>> >>> *GET CONNECTED!* >>> >>> >>> >>> /Unless otherwise explicitly instructed by sender, all information in this >>> email is considered confidential and intended for the view and use of the >>> recipient(s) only./ >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wlug mailing list >>> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org<mailto:Wlug@mail.wlug.org> >>> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

12 years, 10 months

Re: [Wlug] upgrading suse 7.2 to 8.1

by doug waud

Hi Gregory Avedissian wrote: > I'm getting ready to upgrade from SuSE 7.2 to 8.1, and I have a little > confusion and some questions. > > I'm going from 7.2 pro edition to 8.1 personal edition. Any ideas what's > missing in the personal edition? Up to version 7 SuSE used to list this comparison right on the box. Your old 7.2 box should give a reasonably good idea of what the general differnces are. The URL will give the same for 9 http://www.suse.de/en/private/products/suse_linux/i386/packages.html I could not find the equivalent for 8.x :-( > Attempting to replace what is installed, I get a list of conflicts, with > advice to delete the old program, even if they don't have a replacement. > I was surprised to see that balsa and gftp were listed as not having > newer versions. Is this because they're not on the personal edition? I > know they exist, because they're available at rpmfind I am running 8.2 on this notebook I am writing on now and locate comes up with both balsa and gftp (under Yast as uninstalled) so I suspect they are just not on the personal edition. Also the 9.0 URL above explicitly lists both in the professional and neither in the personal edition. > The real issue - > XFree 4.x doesn't seem to want to recognize my ELSA GLoria-L video card. > Sax2 will run in 640x480 only, and I can't get it to run with the glint > driver (the one that's supposed to work with this card). I tried doing > this with the SuSE 8.2 evaluation disk, and I'm running into the same > problems I had when I tried to upgrade to XFree 4.1 about a month ago. > > So here's the question - > Can I upgrade to 8.1 without upgrading XFree? Better yet, if I upgrade > the XFree, and it doesn't work, is there an easy way to return to the > older version by using the CD's. Or do I have to manually back up > /usr/X11R6 and /etc/X11 first, and then recopy them to get back to the > older version? Will the rest of the SuSE 8.1 be pissed off about using > XFree 3.3.6? I am "underwhelmed" by Sax2's ability to get XFree right. I have just been upgrading my desktop to SuSE 8.2 and the screen was all screwed up. I finally went into /etc/X11/XF86Config and found that it seemed to think my 1Meg video memory (I'm the last of the big time spenders!} was 8 Meg. I just put a VideoRam 1024 in the Device section, dd'd a couple of 1280x1024 modes, defaulted to 8bit color depth, and X then ran fine. I believe you always have the choice of running either 4.x or 3.x but confess I forget how you tell the beast which one to use. :-). I would be very suprised if you could not get 4.x to work, but if that really turns out to be the case, let me know and I'll root around and see if I can recall the trick for forcing ti to use 3.x. > I suppose I could change the vid card, but I'd rather not spend any > money, That's my sort of guy! > and since this one is listed as working, I'd like to be able to > get it to work. And, as indicated above, you should be able to. doug PS The WLUG meeting tonight is a good place to get help from real experts, for example, Andy Whatshisname, and others more knowledgable than I.

21 years, 5 months

RE: [Wlug] W.L.U.G. TV show...

by Simoncini, Matthew

Tim, I would have to say I agree with your "user grouping" for the most part, but feel (IMHO) that there might be a group of people that fall between the novice and advanced users, lets call them the "hobbyist group". These people know how to use a computer, have probably "dabbled" in linux, but need some help performing certain tasks or need convincing on turning the corner and using linux full time. This is an important group because a) I'm a member of this group :o) and b) members of this group know the value of linux, but want to make sure they can do everything they want to do in linux i.e. listen to MP3's, burn CD's, browse the web, be able to use a word processor, etc .... I think that the general idea of spreading the linux word is a great idea especially on a visible medium, but the most value would be added if the largest user group is targeted. So, in a nutshell, I think you guys have a great idea and I hope to watch you guys on TV sometime soon. Matthew > -----Original Message----- > From: Keller, Tim [mailto:Tim.Keller@stratus.com] > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 10:39 AM > To: 'wlug(a)wlug.org' > Subject: [Wlug] W.L.U.G. TV show... > > > For those who didn't attend the meeting last night, we talked > a little about > the idea of producing a linux focused TV Show. From that > discussion we > decided that the best thing to-do would be to have the main > part of the > discussion through the mail list. > > So, here it is... > > Firstly, I think we need to decide who our target audience > is. This morning > I came up with notion that generally, users can be broken into several > groups. > > The first group are novice users. These are people who use a > computer, but > the concept of an operating system or the idea that windows > isn't just "part > of the system" and not removable is alien. > > The second group is "advanced" users. I think most of us > would fall into > this group. We understand OS's, hardware, software and all > the digital glue > that holds it together. > > The third group is educational users. These would be people > who work in > some education institution and they're interest in linux > would be from the > standpoint of deploying it for cost savings and/or using it > as an education > tool for teaching. > > The forth group would be corporate suit types. These are the > people who > read the trade rags, but don't have a clear understanding of > what linux. > They've read lots of conflicting FUD on the subject and > aren't sure how > linux could be used in they're environment or what the real > TCO would be. > > Personally, I think we should go after groups 1-3. The > reason I'm not too > worried about the fourth type is that now that redhat had decided that > they're going to go full force into the enterprise > environment, they'll be > busy spending lots of PR dollars convincing the suits. > > What do people think. Also, if it is the consensus that we > should focus on > groups 1-3, should we narrow our focus even more? > > Thanks, > Tim. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

21 years, 5 months

Re: [Wlug] more on event correlation...

by Mike Peckar

Whoops, didn't mean to send to the entire list - I guess I had too many mini oreo cookies last night... ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Peckar <ov(a)fognet.com> To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 11:27 PM Subject: [Wlug] more on event correlation... > Nice meeting you tonight, Chuck, and THANKS for the redhat cd's... > > sec was the freeware event correlation tool I spoke of tonight: It is a > straightforward perl script and doesn't implement a full state machine, but > it nevertheless provides some inklings of what more complciated event > correlators do. Check it at http://kodu.neti.ee/~risto/sec/ > > The best commercial event corellation tools IMHO are Nervecenter, Taave, > Smarts, and Netcool. Each has its niche where it's best in class, and > there are others, like HP's ECS, Logec, G2, etc. > > My friend Doug Stevenson is a specialist in event correlation and wrote the > Maji spec: the open source event correlation engine being developed under > the umbrella of OpenNMS (yeah, so, it'll be java - but it will also be very > feature rich). He masterfully defines some of the layers of granularity that > one might see amongst the different offerings in the Event Correlation > space. Types we talked about tonight include event correlation (reducing > traps) and device correlation (mapping switch states to events). His > definitions are listed below... > > Mike > > > > <snipped message> > OK... > > Here goes... > § Event Correlation > > § Alarm Correlation > > § Device Correlation > > § System Correlation > > § Service Correlation > > § Performance Correlation > > § Security Correlation > > Event Correlation - This is a correlation where multiple events are filtered > and processed, thereby reducing the number of events presented. This is > primarily done with event tally counts and trap problem verification. > > Alarm Correlation - This is a correlation of alarms and alerts depicting > true problems or root causes and their current status. Side effect alarms or > alarms occurring as a result of a root cause alarm are suppressed or become > subordinate to the root cause alarm. > > Device Correlation - This is a correlation of devices, their specific > internal components (both hardware and software), and the device's behavior > with other devices. Additionally, device correlation lends itself toward > configuration management as it is a dynamic inventory of devices, > subsystems, components, and behaviors. > > System Correlation - This is a correlation of devices and managed objects as > they pertain to an overall system. This level of correlation enables one to > manage and classify a conglomeration of managed objects as a manageable > entity. > > Service Correlation - This correlation is used to determine the devices and > systems that make up an IT service. In essence, this is the correlation of > managed objects and systems to business rules; similar to a translation of > terms from computers and systems to business services. The Service > Correlation can be extended to customer impact analysis, business > profitability impact analysis, etc. > > Performance Correlation - This correlation is used to determine the effects > performance has with regards to a fault. It is unique in that performance > correlation can be applied to enhance the correlation of all of the other > categories. > > Security Correlation - This correlation is used to determine the degree of > threats caused by security incidents. It is unique in that security > correlation is embedded among all the other six categories described above. > > HTH, > > Doug... > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

23 years, 6 months

Re: Looking for advice for home server

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Kevin" == Kevin Stratton via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > I am looking for a cheap solution for the following: > 1) Email server/redireector. I want to have a full custom domain and > email addre0ss. > 2) FTP server on the same domain as the email server. Please no! Setup 'sftp' instead. This does require two IPs on the system since sftp (ftp over ssh) will take up one port because ideally you'd setup virtual users who can't actually login to the system... > 3) GUI setup preferred, I do not want to invest the time (right now) > to get this working as a 'ground up' project. I'd think about Ansible, which lets you do repeatable test builds at home. The trick, of course, is getting your email setup working that way. There's a bunch of parts: postfix for SMTP incoming/outgoing dovecot for IMAP postscreen rspamd - spam filtering dkim - for singing your outgoing emails nginx - for hosting various files for google and others to check for you being who you say you are. Fun fun. And a bunch of other stuff. I'd actually suggest maybe you look at https://mailinabox.email/ do you your setup. I think if I had to do it again, i'd go that route. The most important part though, and the most annoying, if getting your VPS and making sure it's not in a spam block, or likely to get added into one. Its... painful. I've been running stoffel.org for 20+ years now for email and it's gotten harder and harder. Nowdays you need to have SPF keys setup in DNS, DKIM keys for signing emails, you want to make sure you don't relay anything any more, because that will get you banned. Which reminds me I need to stop relaying too. Sigh... > 4) Total bandwidth needs should be negligible. Very true, a mail server is pretty low bandwidth. > How would you approach this? > At a very high level, I am considering: > 1) Dedicating a DDR3 (RAM) era Intel I3 P.C. (sorry, I don not know the > generation) and installing NAS software with the appropriate docker > plugins, if they exist. I do not know if this is even reasonable. > Suggestions are appreciated. I am using a home ISP account. I am aware > of DynDNS type services to get around the lack of a static IP. I do not > currently plan on using this device as an actual NAS due to security > concerns. If necessary, I will use sneaker-net to transfer data, > although I am thinking about ssh or even RS232. If you're thinking of running this at home on your home internet then you're in for probably a rude surprise. Most big mail providers tend to block home IP blocks and not accept email because the volume of spam from them is so high. I'm on a Linode droplet right now, but thinking of moving to something else. > 2) Renting out space on a service like Amazon Web services. Maybe they > have an image that is already what I want. Again, those AWS IP blocks tend to get blocked and dropped because of the spam levels. > Any ideas/thoughts/experiences would be appreciated. I hope to be at > the meeting next Thursday. Happy to chat then. I'd suggest you going the postfix.org mailing list and look through the archives. If you do go with a VPS, you'll really want something with 2gb of RAM or more, because rspamd is a hog. Postfix and dovecot are simple. It's the getting others to accept your email that sucks. John

8 months, 2 weeks

Re: [Wlug] (no subject)

by Tim Keller

Here's my .02 cents on building a machine. 1. Memory. You can never have too much of it. I'd say try to get a board that'll do 8GB with the expectation you'll be there at some point. 2. CPU: go duel at a minimum. If you could swing a quad I'd say go for it. 3. Video card: Get something that will do HDMI and is capable of duel head. I've got a Nvidia GeForce 8400 GS with 512MB of video memory and it cost me a whopping 40 dollars! 4. Harddrives: If your going to spring for 1, go ahead and buy two and then mirror them. Mirrored drives have now saved my ass on three occasions. 5. Case: Honestly I like cases that don't resemble a disco under my desk. I'm also fond of 120mm case fans. They move a shit load of air and are quiet. Power Supply: I wouldn't go smaller than a 350W. If you ever decide to suddenly add two more drives or a burner, nothing sucks more than your power supply being the weak link. 6. OS: Do it yourself. I'm not sure if Ubuntu will let you mirror drives at install, I know the Red Hat family of distros will. Doing your own install will at least give you an explicit understanding of what packages you've installed. Heck we could probably make a meeting out of helping you install and tweak your machine! Later, Tim. On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 8:02 AM, Gregory Avedissian <avedis.g(a)verizon.net>wrote: > > > Brian McLinden wrote: > > > > > What do you think about this workaround -- > > http://www.inatux.com/order These are FSF/FOSS people. I can't see > > I would recommend more than their base system. Go with a dual-core cpu and > probably 2G memory, since it's so cheap now ($30-40 at newegg), and bigger > hard drive (e.g. 250GB for around $50). How much do they want with those > upgrades? > > > > > And, for cable broadband and live streaming of audio and video, what > > combination or package(s) of HW ad SW should I ask for. Wired case? > > Wireless case? > > If you're talking about wired vs. wireless network, it's a lot easier to > go with wired. Any linux distro will get you online with a basic desktop > installation. (OK, there are probably exceptions.) You'll also get audio > and video players. For audio and video, you might need to install > additional codecs, but that's generally pretty easy to do. > > Why don't you want to install the OS yourself? > > > > > 4. What Linux distribution would you pair with Unix? > > > > And, what will I learn from one that I don't learn from the other? > > > > I'm just going to reiterate what others said. You'll learn a lot from > installing the OS yourself. Ubuntu is a good choice if you're new to > linux, but anything in the top 5 or 10 in the list at distrowatch.com is > probably a good choice. The installation procedure is pretty easy these > days (on the major distros). > > Leave room on your hard drive for additional partitions to try other > flavors of linux if you want. That's sometimes a better choice than trying > it in a VM, because then you get to see how the OS works with your > hardware. That tends to be more of an issue when you're using the latest > hardware. > > > Greg > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- I am weary of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

15 years, 8 months

Re: Uptime!

by Jon "maddog" Hall

Mike, Believe it or not, both VMS and Digital Unix systems were the same way. They would go months and years without rebooting. The US Navy had two hospital ships, the "Mercy" and the "Hope". One stationed on the East Coast and one in San Diego. The one on the East Coast used WNT for the servers and the one in San Diego used GNU/Linux. The ship using WNT had to have twice as many servers as the one in San Diego because the Navy rules said that a WNT server HAD to be rebooted every 30 days, whereas there was no such requirement for GNU/Linux. Since a Naval deployment could last longer than 30 days, and since they needed the server services to be up constantly that whole time, they needed twice as many WNT servers. md On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 8:58 AM Mike Peckar via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > Fun Story, Maddog. Around 20 yrs ago I was consulting for Bloomberg in > Skillman, NJ, a big Solaris shop. The HP app I was working with bellied up > with memory leaks and I suggested they reboot that server. I was told flat > out they don't reboot Solaris servers period. They cleaned up the mess and > isolated where in the HP code that the pointer was lost, leaving me the > not-so-fun task of filing the bug report with HP. > > Mike > > On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 7:39 PM Jon "maddog" Hall via WLUG < > wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > >> Tim, >> >> What was the reason for shutting it down? >> >> This reminds me of a story from years ago where a young friend contacted >> me before a trip to the University of New Hampshire for a Linux LUG meeting. >> >> He asked me if I would go to a particular dorm and knock on the door of >> what had been his door room. I was to ask if I could unplug the box that >> was in the corner of the closet in the room. The system had been running >> for five years in his former dorm room and he had forgotten the login >> password. He did not want the machine back, just wanted it unplugged. >> >> A young woman answered the door, heard my explanation and let me unplug >> the machine. "We were afraid to unplug it" she said. >> >> Your machine beat his machine on uptime. >> >> md >> >> On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 5:07 PM Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> >> wrote: >> >>> I just shutdown a linux machine with 3169 days of uptime! >>> It had userland processes that have been actively running since 2013! >>> Tim. >>> >>> -- >>> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >>> constituents as "consumers". >>> _______________________________________________ >>> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >>> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >>> Change Settings: >>> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >>> Web Forum/Archive: >>> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/PW3ML… >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >> Change Settings: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >> Web Forum/Archive: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/KSUVD… >> > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/ZZZSN… >

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Re: [Wlug] Gentoo

by John Platt

Just a couple of thoughts. 1. for a good commentary on the gentoo handbook I recommend the blog postings of Vincent Zoonekynd. He's French, he's modest and he's very insightful. http://zoonek.free.fr/blosxom/Linux/2006-01-01_Gentoo.html 2. You can probably install it with a slax cd. Or a gentoo disk of course. Either has a /proc/config.gz which will work very well with genkernel to compile a kernel. After you have emerged genkernel type: zcat /proc/config.gz > /usr/share/genkernel/x86/kernel-config-2.6 Then genkernel all to create a kernel and initramfs. Of course for a 64-bit machine you should zcat it to the appropriate subdirectory which I believe is x86_64 On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Jamie Guinan <guinan(a)bluebutton.com> wrote: > On Wed, 23 Mar 2011, Eric Martin wrote: > >> On 03/23/11 12:19, Joshua Demallistre wrote: >> > >> > I was thinking about giving Gentoo a try. It would be nice for some >> > one in the group could give me a hand. >> > >> What sort of help are you looking for? There used to be a >> disproportionately large Gentoo user base in WLUG, although I don't know >> how large it is anymore. I use it at home and work and I'd be glad to >> help you out. For me, the great thing about Gentoo is the learning >> experience; I learned a lot about GNU/Linux by doing my first Gentoo >> installs, and I'm still learning. If you haven't already, grab the >> install discs and peruse through the install docs. If you have a 64bit >> machine, I suggest grabbing the 64bit disc. Maintaining Gentoo x64 >> isn't terribly hard, and you can use memory more efficiently. > > Gentoo user here, too. Although I haven't done a fresh install in > quite a while, I just keep updating. > > What I like best about Gentoo is picking and choosing which packages > to include and leave out, both applications and libraries. For > example, the other day I wanted to install "gtkpod", but I really > don't want to have Mono or QT4 installed on my system, for various > reasons. Doing a test install, I can verify that they are left out: > > # emerge -ptv gtkpod > > These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order: > > Calculating dependencies... done! > [ebuild N ] app-pda/gtkpod-1.0.0 USE="aac flac mp3 ogg -curl" 1,856 kB > [ebuild N ] media-libs/libgpod-0.8.0 USE="gtk iphone python udev -mono -static-libs" 975 kB > [nomerge ] media-libs/libgpod-0.8.0 USE="gtk iphone python udev -mono -static-libs" > [nomerge ] sys-apps/sg3_utils-1.30 > [ebuild N ] sys-apps/rescan-scsi-bus-1.48 21 kB > [ebuild N ] sys-apps/sg3_utils-1.30 863 kB > [ebuild N ] app-pda/libimobiledevice-1.0.4 USE="python" 404 kB > [ebuild N ] app-pda/usbmuxd-1.0.6 57 kB > [ebuild N ] app-pda/libplist-1.3 67 kB > [ebuild U ] dev-util/cmake-2.8.3-r1 [2.8.0-r2] USE="ncurses -emacs -qt4 -vim-syntax" 5,310 kB > ... > > The USE= "-mono" and "-qt4" flags indicate that the listed packages > will be built without that support. Gentoo handles that by passing > the necessary options to "configure" when it builds the package, and > that is IMO the main point of using a source-based distribution. > > If you *did* want support for mono, you could edit "/etc/make.conf" > (system-wide) or "/etc/portage/package.use" (package-specific), add > the "mono" flag (or remove "-mono"), and try again. > > For better or worse, I think gentoo kind of peaked in popularity > several years ago. Related article, > > http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10047439-16.html?tag=mncol;title > > But it still meets my needs on several of my computers. > > And finally, yes, I am aware of "http://funroll-loops.info/", and I > don't care. :) > > -Jamie > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

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