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Re: [Wlug] upgrading suse 7.2 to 8.1

by Gregory Avedissian

Doug, Thanks for the info and the link. As it turns out, the personal version is missing about 120 packages out of what I have installed. I recognized about 30 of them, and the download time is prohibitive. I need to get the pro version on cd. Meanwhile, I really wanted to know if XFree 4.x would work with my card, so I took a spare hard drive and installed debian woody. I installed xfree 4.1 and had to add the 3DLabs driver from xf3.3.6. Apparentlly, there's software to make driver work with the new version, and it works well. I no longer get little squares and dashes instead of letters on some programs. Makes it much easier to figure out which buttons to click when you can read the words. I'd tried debian a couple months ago and was unhappy with the installation process. Someone on this list suggested installing just the base system and then using apt-get to install the other packages I wanted. That seems to work out very well with almost everything (not ALSA). The other reason I wanted to upgrade was to be able to run a newer version of mozilla with junk mail controls. I'm using 1.4, and the junk filters work pretty well. In fact, they work so well that I haven't wanted to boot suse to get my mail. That's part of the reason it's taken me so long to get back to you on this. Thanks again, Greg doug waud wrote: > Hi > > Gregory Avedissian wrote: > >> I'm getting ready to upgrade from SuSE 7.2 to 8.1, and I have a little >> confusion and some questions. >> >> I'm going from 7.2 pro edition to 8.1 personal edition. Any ideas >> what's missing in the personal edition? > > > Up to version 7 SuSE used to list this comparison right on the box. Your > old 7.2 box should give a reasonably good idea of what the general > differnces are. The URL will give the same for 9 > http://www.suse.de/en/private/products/suse_linux/i386/packages.html > I could not find the equivalent for 8.x :-( > >> Attempting to replace what is installed, I get a list of conflicts, >> with advice to delete the old program, even if they don't have a >> replacement. I was surprised to see that balsa and gftp were listed >> as not having newer versions. Is this because they're not on the >> personal edition? I know they exist, because they're available at rpmfind > > > I am running 8.2 on this notebook I am writing on now and locate comes > up with both balsa and gftp (under Yast as uninstalled) so I suspect > they are just not on the personal edition. Also the 9.0 URL above > explicitly lists both in the professional and neither in the personal > edition. > >> The real issue - >> XFree 4.x doesn't seem to want to recognize my ELSA GLoria-L video >> card. Sax2 will run in 640x480 only, and I can't get it to run with >> the glint driver (the one that's supposed to work with this card). I >> tried doing this with the SuSE 8.2 evaluation disk, and I'm running >> into the same problems I had when I tried to upgrade to XFree 4.1 >> about a month ago. >> >> So here's the question - >> Can I upgrade to 8.1 without upgrading XFree? Better yet, if I upgrade >> the XFree, and it doesn't work, is there an easy way to return to the >> older version by using the CD's. Or do I have to manually back up >> /usr/X11R6 and /etc/X11 first, and then recopy them to get back to the >> older version? Will the rest of the SuSE 8.1 be pissed off about >> using XFree 3.3.6? > > > I am "underwhelmed" by Sax2's ability to get XFree right. I have just > been upgrading my desktop to SuSE 8.2 and the screen was all screwed up. > I finally went into /etc/X11/XF86Config and found that it seemed to > think my 1Meg video memory (I'm the last of the big time spenders!} was > 8 Meg. > I just put a VideoRam 1024 in the Device section, dd'd a couple of > 1280x1024 modes, defaulted to 8bit color depth, and X then ran fine. > > I believe you always have the choice of running either 4.x or 3.x but > confess I forget how you tell the beast which one to use. :-). I would > be very suprised if you could not get 4.x to work, but if that really > turns out to be the case, let me know and I'll root around and see if I > can recall the trick for forcing ti to use 3.x. > >> I suppose I could change the vid card, but I'd rather not spend any >> money, > > > That's my sort of guy! > >> and since this one is listed as working, I'd like to be able to get it >> to work. > > > And, as indicated above, you should be able to. > > doug > > PS The WLUG meeting tonight is a good place to get help from real > experts, for example, Andy Whatshisname, and others more knowledgable > than I. > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

21 years

Re: Uptime!

by Jon "maddog" Hall

I had not heard of Fortran 5 (or Fortran V) and a half-hearted search of the Internet did not find anything. Do you have any pointers to it? Thanks, md On Thu, Apr 21, 2022, 18:09 Mike Peckar <mpeckar(a)gmail.com> wrote: > According to the Guiness Book of World records, The computer system that > has been in continual operation for the longest period is the Computer > Command System (CCS) onboard NASA's *Voyager 2* spacecraft. This system > has been in continuous operation since the spacecraft's launch on 20 August > 1977. Voyager 1's CCS uptime trails it by a couple of weeks and both are > still going. > > Each Voyager has two CCSs, two Flight Data System (FDS) computers and two > Attitude and Articulation Control System (AACS) computers, but the FDS & > AACS do not operate continuously. The CCS's have two 18-bit word, interrupt > type processors with 4096 words each of non-volatile plated wire memory > amounting to 69.63 kilobytes. They execute about 81,000 instructions per > second and transmit data back to Earth at 160 bits per second. They were > originally programmed in Fortran 5. > > Mike > > On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 12:32 PM Jon "maddog" Hall < > jon.maddog.hall(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Mike, >> >> Believe it or not, both VMS and Digital Unix systems were the same way. >> They would go months and years without rebooting. >> >> The US Navy had two hospital ships, the "Mercy" and the "Hope". One >> stationed on the East Coast and one in San Diego. The one on the East >> Coast used WNT for the servers and the one in San Diego used GNU/Linux. >> The ship using WNT had to have twice as many servers as the one in San >> Diego because the Navy rules said that a WNT server HAD to be rebooted >> every 30 days, whereas there was no such requirement for GNU/Linux. Since >> a Naval deployment could last longer than 30 days, and since they needed >> the server services to be up constantly that whole time, they needed twice >> as many WNT servers. >> >> md >> >> On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 8:58 AM Mike Peckar via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> >> wrote: >> >>> Fun Story, Maddog. Around 20 yrs ago I was consulting for Bloomberg in >>> Skillman, NJ, a big Solaris shop. The HP app I was working with bellied up >>> with memory leaks and I suggested they reboot that server. I was told flat >>> out they don't reboot Solaris servers period. They cleaned up the mess and >>> isolated where in the HP code that the pointer was lost, leaving me the >>> not-so-fun task of filing the bug report with HP. >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 7:39 PM Jon "maddog" Hall via WLUG < >>> wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Tim, >>>> >>>> What was the reason for shutting it down? >>>> >>>> This reminds me of a story from years ago where a young friend >>>> contacted me before a trip to the University of New Hampshire for a Linux >>>> LUG meeting. >>>> >>>> He asked me if I would go to a particular dorm and knock on the door of >>>> what had been his door room. I was to ask if I could unplug the box that >>>> was in the corner of the closet in the room. The system had been running >>>> for five years in his former dorm room and he had forgotten the login >>>> password. He did not want the machine back, just wanted it unplugged. >>>> >>>> A young woman answered the door, heard my explanation and let me unplug >>>> the machine. "We were afraid to unplug it" she said. >>>> >>>> Your machine beat his machine on uptime. >>>> >>>> md >>>> >>>> On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 5:07 PM Tim Keller via WLUG < >>>> wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I just shutdown a linux machine with 3169 days of uptime! >>>>> It had userland processes that have been actively running since 2013! >>>>> Tim. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >>>>> constituents as "consumers". >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >>>>> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >>>>> Change Settings: >>>>> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >>>>> Web Forum/Archive: >>>>> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/PW3ML… >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >>>> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >>>> Change Settings: >>>> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >>>> Web Forum/Archive: >>>> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/KSUVD… >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >>> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >>> Change Settings: >>> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >>> Web Forum/Archive: >>> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/ZZZSN… >>> >>

2 years, 7 months

Re: [Wlug] Need some help with digital signal processing ...

by Randall Mason

The long and short of this is that you need to figure out what the sound looks like. Is it a simple sound that's easy to differentiate by just choosing the highest peak on an FFT? If your doorbell has a peak at 10khz and your dryer has a peak at 5khz, it should be pretty easy to do if 4.9khz < max(fft(audiodata)) < 5.1khz then dryer; if 9.9khz < max(fft(audiodata)) < 10.1khz then doorbell. Most likely it's not going to be that easy. Also there is the possibility that the dryer manufacturer and the doorbell manufacturer used the same component for the buzzer and it's going to be mathematically the same sound pattern, but differ on harmonics blocked by the room. You could need to use the whole fft of the sound, recorded at many different locations in the house and then use nearest neighbor for the convolution of the "new" sound with the old sound and then compared to a database of previous sounds. You would need a large database of example sounds to compare with. Probably at least 100 examples of each sound that would go off and then you would need to set a threshold of "closeness" so that you don't always detect new sounds as one of the old sounds. If this didn't work, then you may have to go with a hefty fingerprint like chromaprint or echoprint. Those would give you so much info about not just the frequencies, but also the rhythm of the sounds. Like maybe your dryer and your oven have the same frequency pattern because the manufacturers used the same buzzer, but they pulse them differently. That's one advantage to these full fingerprint libraries. And somebody else did the science, so you don't need to write a dissertation in DSP to be sure that you have some rigour to your approach. Chromaprint <http://acoustid.org/chromaprint> would be a good library to go with in that case. It's part of the acoustid project and has a great how it works <http://oxygene.sk/2011/01/how-does-chromaprint-work/> blog post for the acoustically curious. The problem would be that it's mainly developed for sounds as complex as music, so I don't know how it would work with a "buzz" noise. It's small enough and fast enough that it can happen quickly enough on a phone. That's how programs like shazam<http://www.shazam.com/>work. They make the fingerprint on the phone from a 10 second recording and push it to a server that processes it. Shazam has riddled the landscape with software patents, so chromaprint isn't a replacement for that, it's just close enough that it may work. Other things to look at: http://code.google.com/p/musicg/ - A java audio DSP library. Does fingerprinting and stuff. Echoprint has been ported to Android: https://github.com/gvsumasl/EchoprintForAndroid If you send me some example sounds, I can look at them in python or something and let you know what I think about different metrics that you could use to compare the sounds. Specifically a recording in a loss-less codec like flac or without compression like wav would be important because MP3 and such destroy parts of the audio waveform. 'Course I could just record my kitchen timer and let you know what it looks like... Your offer to do the programming is great, because I'm no app dev, but I do have some education and experience with signal processing. Randall Mason clashthebunny(a)gmail.com On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 4:20 AM, David Glaser <dglaser(a)glaserresearch.net>wrote: > Tim, > > After your feedback and feedback received during the WLUG meeting, it > seems that > it is better to use something like an Arduino instead of a phone as the signal > processing > box. > > To that effect, I googled "arduino dsp" and got a whole lot of hits on DSP > shields for arduino > and on projects that illustrate how to write arduino sketches that > manipulate the stream. > > One possibility would be to have an Arduino with a DSP and a bluetooth > receiver. The bluetooth would communicate with a phone and/or a wearable. > The phone would tell the arduino what sounds to look for - that is, > provide signatures that should be matched. The wearable and/or the phone > would be used to give the event to the user. I think that this > configuration along with a battery could be configured to fit in a small > fanny pack. > > The arduino could also use zig-bee to communicate with a home automation > system and pass events to the phone/wearable. > > Hmmm, I think we are on to something. > > -David > > On 12/12/2012 08:33 PM, Tim Keller wrote: > > I would have to imagine having your phone listen to ambient sound and > then filter looking for a whole range of specific sounds is basically > going to use all the phones processing power along with its ram... > > I have to imagine that not hearing the beep when the oven is done pre > heating must be annoying > > Not hearing the washing machine or the clothes dryer buzz would really > piss me off. > > imagine a box. On this box would be al led screen where you could > cycle through a menu and pick a input to listen to and report when > either that input starts or stops. > > In the case of a clothes dryer when the vibration sensor stops sensing > vibration, chances are good it's done. > > This box would also have plugs for things like a photo sensor you > could stick on the face of your stove right over the led for > preheating the oven. > > All of this stuff could be tied back to your phone that would vibrate > and sent an sms message. Possibly you could tie it in with a home > automation system to flash lights, etc. > > Just some ideas. > > Tim. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

12 years

Enterprise Linux Forum - Special Offer for Linux User Groups

by Andy Stewart

Hi Everybody, On Dec. 3 and 4, 2002, the Enterprise Linux Forum will be held at the Boston Marriot (Copley Place) in Boston, MA. We have been offered a $200 discount for WLUG members who attend the event. If you want more information, read below that which was sent to me. If you wish to go and can't read the attachments, send me e-mail. Later, Andy ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Enterprise Linux Forum - Special Offer for Linux User Groups Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:27:15 -0500 From: Juliet Sigmann <jsigmann(a)jupitermedia.com> To: andystewart(a)attbi.com Andy, I hope you do not think it too forward of me to send you this e-mail, but I came across Worcester Linux Users Group while researching Linux associations and user group sites. My company, Jupitermedia, has developed a conference that I believe will be of interest to you and other members of Worcester Linux Users Group . The name of the event is Enterprise Linux Forum Conference & Expo. For complete details on this event, visit http://www.enterpriselinuxforum.com I would like to offer Worcester Linux Users Group members a $200 discount to attend the Enterprise Linux Forum. Registrations processed by November 19th save an additional $100 off the regular conference price. The conference offers 1-Day, 2-Day, and Expo Pass (free) passes to the event. This e-mail is not a "sales call", but is a win-win business proposition. We are seeking to drive attendance at this first time (albeit world-class) event. We can offer you and other Worcester Linux Users Group members a world class event that touches on a number of subjects via 4 comprehensive tracks that I believe would be of interest to your group such as Linux in the Datacenter; Clustered and Distributed Computing; Operations, Management and Infrastructure; and Application, Storage and Information Management. Scroll below for the complete line-up of speakers and topics to be highlighted at this event. As the conference brochure (attached in PDF format) relates, this event is set to run December 3-4, 2002 at the Boston Marriott Copley Place in Boston, MA. Currently, the event is sponsored by Red Hat (Premier Sponsor), BMC Software, Computer Associates, Dell, Egenera, IBM, NeTraverse, Oracle, Sun Microsystems, SuSE Linux, Ximian, and more. Additional supporters of the event include: Illuminata (Premier Analyst Sponsor) and association sponsors Free Standards Group, GNOME Foundation, Linux International, and Open Source Development Lab. Media sponsors include, Capterra, HostingTech, IT Toolbox, Linux Journal, and OutsourcingCentral.com. Visit the event web site at www.enterpriselinuxforum.com for the most up-to-date listing of speakers, session descriptions, sponsors, and exhibitors. Again, I would like to offer Worcester Linux Users Group members a $200 discount to attend the Enterprise Linux Forum. As you can see from the number and quality of sponsors and speakers, this is a first rate event. I have attached with this e-mail a fax back registration form with the $200 discount as well as some copy that you could include in an email newsletter to you members or your web site. In order for your members to take advantage of this $200 discount, they will need to use the priority code assigned in the fax back form or attached copy. Please call me directly if you have any comments or questions. Sincerely, Juliet Sigmann Marketing Manager Jupitermedia Corporation (formerly INT Media Group) 30 Lyman Street, Suite 8 Westboro, MA 01581 T: 508-870-5858 x119 F: 508-870-6521 eFax: 801-761-9698 jsigmann(a)jupitermedia.com www.jupitermedia.com **************************************************************************** *************** Keynotes and Sessions Click on http://www.jupiterevents.com/elf/fall02/glance.html for the complete agenda Keynote 1: The Inevitable Linux Momentum - Matthew J. Szulik, Chairman, CEO and President, Red Hat Keynote 2: Linux in Prime Time: Open Source Meets Enterprise Requirements - Jonathan Eunice, President and Principal Analyst, Illuminata Keynote 3: IBM Enterprise Solutions for Linux - Steven C. Solazzo, General Manager, Linux, IBM Keynote 4: Unbreakable Linux - Rene Bonvanie, VP of Oracle9i Marketing, Oracle Corporation Session 1: The Changing Face of Linux - David Niemi, Director of Systems Engineering, Adeptech Systems, Inc. Session 2: Linux High Availability Cluster Selection - Tim Burke, Advanced Server Technical Project Leader, Red Hat Session 3: VPN Enterprise Implementation at Rochester Midland - Tony Karakashian, Network Manager, Rochester Midland Corporation Session 4: Linux as Embedded Operating System - Rob Lembree, Technical Director, Metro Link, Inc. Session 5: How Sitel Worldwide Runs Call Centers Utilizing Linux - Scott Clark, Director of Systems Engineering, Sitel Corporation Session 6: PANEL: Server Consolidation Strategies Using Linux - Moderator: Brian Proffitt, Managing Editor, LinuxToday.com Session 7: The Enterprise Linux Desktop: Addressing Corporate Needs - Nat Friedman, Co-founder and Vice President of Product Development, Ximian Session 8: Managing Linux on Datacenter Mainframe Systems - Alex deVries, Principal Solutions Architect, Linuxcare Session 9: The Future of Open Source Software in the Enterprise - Randy Terbush, Managing Partner, Tribal Knowledge Group Session 10: The Future of Datacenter Computing: How the Combination of Storage Area Networks and Processing Area Networks Solves Multiple Pain Points for Enterprise Datacenters Session 11: Apache: An Enterprise-Level Server - Daniel Lopez Ridruejo, Senior Developer, Instant802 Networks Session 12: The Virtual Environment - Where Does Linux Fit? - Dan Kusnetzky, Vice President, System Software Research, IDC Session 13: Enterprise-Ready Linux on the Mainframe: The Path to Success - Sam Greenblatt, SVP, Computer Associates Session 14: The Linux Factor: How Linux and Friends will Reshape Application by 2005 - Jasmine Noel, Founder and Principal, JNoel Associates Session 15: Rethinking the Linux Distribution: Linux as Platform, Not Product - Ian Murdock, Progeny Session 16: Linux Clusters and Open Source Software in the Life Sciences - Glenn Otero, Ph.D., Founder and Principal, Linux Prophet Session 17: The Linux Standard Base - Changing Everything You Think About Linux - Scott McNeil, Executive Director, Free Standards Group Session 18: Linux in Business: Answering Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt - Russell Pavlicek, Independent Consultant Session 19: PANEL: Integrating Linux Into the Enterprise - Moderator: Brian Proffitt, Managing Editor, LinuxToday.com Session 20: Open Source Development Lab Data Center Linux (DCL) for OLTP and DSS - Timothy Witham, Lab Director, Open Source Development Lab Session 21: Migrating C/C++ Applications from Unix to Linux - Shel Travis, Vice President of Research, MigraTEC Session 22: Web Services: The Killer Application for Open Source - Christian Gross, Software Engineering Consultant Session 23: Linux Database Clusters for High Performance Computing - Boris C. Bialek, Manager, DB2 Strategic Technologies, IBM Toronto Lab Session 24: High-Performance End-to-End Computing Using Linux - Chris Maresca, Senior Partner, Olliance Group, LLC **************************************************************************** *************** ------------------------------------------------------- -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

22 years, 1 month

RE: [Wlug] MP3 Player recommendations

by Keller, Tim

My $.02 I personally own a Sonic blue Rio Volt and really like it. I've never heard of the iriver, but oh well. Things I really like about the Rio Volt 1. 10 hours of music per CD (with 128bit mp3's). 2. doesn't use some weirdo proprietary storage device that they'll stop manufacturing 6 months from now. 3. Can play regular CD's. This weighed heavily into getting a CD based device. I'm not going to carry an mp3 player and a CD player. Invariably, I go some where and someone's got a CD they want to listen to... 4. supports different bit depths on mp3's. My advisor got a cheaper CD based mp3 player and it just assumes that everything's 128bit. His 96bit hotel California mp3 sounds like "Alvin and the chipmunks do the eagles greatest hits" 5. has a recessed switch to disable the controls on the unit. You don't know how many sets of batteries I killed in my Sony Discman because I'd put it in my backpack and the buttons would get pressed and it would play Ride the lightning over and over. 6. The controls are good but a bit esoteric. I've got a CD with the complete works of Pink Floyd on it, organized as "albums as subdirectories" so its got ~156 songs. Until you understand the controls (or read the instructions) finding a single song is a bit mind bending. 7. It has a 40 second cache so the battery life is pretty long. Things I don't like about the Rio Volt: 1. The volume sucks on it. The ear bud headphones are just a complete waste, unless your dumbo. You'll want a pair of headphones with their own gain volume. 2. The battery cover opens easily, not really a big deal, but annoying. 3. Can't recharge batteries in the device. My old discman does this, why couldn't these guys? 4. Those stupid dancing people and that spinning CD icon (which looks a lot like the fan icon on the front of a Sun E1000 fibre array). I would have ditched the people and made the text display larger so you could put more info on it. (in the same vein I would have dumped the stupid fan icon and put "FAN BROKE" but that's just me...:) I'll bring my mp3 player with me to the next wlug meeting so anybody who wants to check it out are welcome. Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Sands Fish [mailto:fishsands@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 7:46 AM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] MP3 Player recommendations A little more depth on the Sonicblue Rio Volt SP250: This is the model I was going to (and still might) purchase, kuz you can't be a cool dork w/out a portable mp3 player. ;) When I dug a little deeper into this model, I came across it's European counter-part, the iRiver. It is, of course, a little more expensive. Essentially, it's from the same company who OEM's the RioVolt line, but the trick is, they water down their products for the American market. There are a few things that the iRiver has that the RioVolt doesn't. 1.) LCD on the remote control. I don't know how much this interests people, but it's a nice little feature. Also, I believe those stupid dancing people that everyone so widely hated do not appear on the iRiver. 2.) I've been told by people experienced in both players that there are much more frequent firmware revisions for the iRiver. Oh, and this is a good place to mention that this is the feature that made me wanna buy it. As patches/fixes/upgrades are made for the player, you can d/l firmware upgrades, burn them to a cd, and run them in the player. One thing that really interested me is that, on the iRiver site http://www.iriver.com/english/imp250.htm they mention the potential implementation of the OGG Vorbis format, which I'm a big fan of, (no royalties threatened like MP3.) This is something I haven't seen mentioned for the American version, but who knows. One other thing I should mention. You'll need a power converter for this model. :) If anyone does end up with this player, please post your impressions on the list. I haven't completely made up my mind yet whether I want to pay more. Sincerely, Cheapskate Sands Fish <x>< --- "Charles R . Anderson" <cra(a)WPI.EDU> wrote: > On Sun, Dec 02, 2001 at 03:00:26PM -0500, Andy > Stewart wrote: > andystewart> Christmas is coming, and I'm thinking > about asking Santa for a portable > andystewart> MP3 player. Of course, it needs to > work with Linux. > > You to, eh? > > andystewart> Judging from the looks of the CDs which > I've ripped into MP3 files, 32 MB > andystewart> of memory looks like it might be a tad > small for a single CD, while 64 MB > andystewart> looks like it might do the trick for > loading up around 2 CDs worth of > andystewart> music. Is this a fair assessment? > Since I use compact flash for my > andystewart> digital camera, any MP3 player that > uses this medium should probably get > andystewart> extra consideration, I would think. > > Personally, I think the memory-based MP3 players are > way too expensive for how > many songs they can hold. I'd rather have a > CD-ROM-based player, since a CD > can hold about 10 hours of music. Also, you don't > have to worry about > Linux compatibility, since it will take any standard > ISO9660 CD-ROM which you > can burn from Linux just fine. The other type of > players, based on hard drives, > are also too expensive for my taste, and who needs > to store 100's of hours of > music on a portable device? The CD-MP3 players are > the "just right" > price/performance right now. > > The latest CD-MP3 players have come a long way since > the Genica 1st generation > units. By far the best ones I have found are these > two, since they have > excellent navigation capabilities, which you'll need > to navigate the hundreds > of songs on a CD: > > Sonicblue Rio Volt SP250 > TDK Mojo > > Check out their reviews on http://music.cnet.com/ . > They both got Editor's Choice. > > -- > Charles R. Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> / > http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ > PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 > Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 > A0F9 49BB 5886 > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Buy the perfect holiday gifts at Yahoo! Shopping. http://shopping.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

23 years

Re: [EXT] The future of WLUG

by joshua.gage.stone＠gmail.com

Tim, Thank you very much for creating a meetup.com group for us! The UX for finding future meetups and adding meetup dates to a calender is quite good. Finding WLUG should also be fairly easy now when searching for "linux" within a 50 mile radius of Boston: https://www.meetup.com/find/?allMeetups=false&keywords=linux&radius=50&user… I've noticed that some search strings will show LUGs with overlapping interests but not WLUG. I think adding more words like "FOSS", "Android", "Libre", "Open Source", "Ubuntu", "Fedora", "OpenSUSE", "Arch Linux", "Unix", etc, to the related topics and/or What We're About section should improve this. I've tried setting up a community over Slack but I think the steps need to join was what made it too intrusive for new people -- take joining the Rust language Slack server for example: https://rust-slack.herokuapp.com/ - Send an invite link to your email- Register with a name and password- Be greeted with prompts about whether to send notifications- Open the #general channel And this has to be repeated for joining every community that has their own Slack server, or at least this has been my experience so far. I think Slack has cemented itself as more of a means for teams to collaborate on a project, not so much for casual users who want to jump right into a new chat. Matrix only needs to register a username and password (email is optional) on the server you're on, and once that's done you can join any number of channels on that server. This is much closer to the UX of IRC, and it's still superior in some ways because there's no fiddling with choosing a specific authentication method like SASL and/or authenticating with nickserv I think in general Matrix has more mindshare amongst Linux users as a modern alternative to IRC, which I think is worth considering when comparing frequency of posts on Reddit: https://old.reddit.com/r/linux/search?q=matrix&restrict_sr=on&sort=relevanc… -Josh On Sat, 2020-01-11 at 22:59 -0500, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote: > This morning I went out and created a meetup group for WLUG: > https://www.meetup.com/Worcester-Linux-Users-Group and paid for six > months. Feel free to go and join up if you'd like. > The matrix stuff is cool, I cut my teeth on IRC so I'm always partial > to the old school but I also understand that eventually we'll want a > slack channel as well maybe. > > Tim. > > > > > On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 4:07 PM Anderson, Charles R via WLUG < > wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > > We also have an IRC channel: > > > > > > > > http://www.wlug.org/participate.html > > > > > > > > Internet Relay Chat > > > > > > > > Join the realtime chat on our IRC channel. > > > > > > > > Connect your IRC client to irc.freenode.net > > > > Join the #wlug-ma channel or join directly from this link: > > irc://irc.freenode.net/#wlug-ma. > > > > See more information about Freenode and join the chat from your > > web browser > > > > > > > > but maybe IRC is too old school--no one chats on it anymore. > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 04:03:14PM -0500, Joshua Stone via WLUG > > wrote: > > > > > Hey all, > > > > > > > > > > Last night's meeting was excellent, and I'd like say thanks again > > to > > > > > Tim for giving me a ride home! > > > > > > > > > > Last night's discussion gave me ideas of ways we could improve > > general > > > > > activity, increase attendence, and improve outreach efforts. > > Hosting a > > > > > meetup.com group would be certainly improve discoverability, and > > > > > getting in touch with WPI's computer science group would be great > > too. > > > > > > > > > > I think what a lot communities are doing nowadays is having a > > text chat > > > > > format for users who want to communicate more easily over the > > internet, > > > > > especially with mobile devices. As an example, there are Discord > > > > > servers for Fedora, Ubuntu, OpenSUSE, etc, and they have room > > sizes > > > > > generally in the hundreds or even well over a thousand. Even > > before > > > > > Discord they'd use IRC for providing support, posting updates, > > etc. > > > > > > > > > > Having a text chat of our own would certainly help improve > > > > > participation -- I think Matrix would be a good option here > > because it > > > > > has many nice features and has a fairly polished user experience: > > > > > > > > > > - Numerous clients available on desktop, mobile, and web ( > > > > > https://matrix.org/clients/ > > > > > - Persistent chat history > > > > > - Link previews > > > > > - Various bots to choose from for adding functionality ( > > > > > https://matrix.org/docs/projects/bots/ > > > > > - User moderation > > > > > - Server federation > > > > > - Self-hosting available, both client and server are completely > > FOSS > > > > > - File sharing > > > > > - Voice/video calls > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a screenshot if anyone wants to see what a Matrix chat > > room > > > > > would look like: > > > > > > > > > > https://i.imgur.com/aVILcWB.png > > > > > > > > > > Or you can join the room I made: > > > > > > > > > > https://matrix.to/#/!EiTljkvagZDFKfQfFu:matrix.org?via=matrix.org > > > > > > > > > > Alteratively, if you have a Matrix client already: > > > > > > > > > > #wlug:matrix.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Josh > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > > > > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > > > > > _______________________________________________WLUG mailing list -- > wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org

4 years, 11 months

Re: Uptime!

by Mike Peckar

md, Here's where I saw the reference to Fortran V wrt Voyager's CSS... https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/news/voyager-mission-anniversary-computers… From http://www.quadibloc.com/comp/fort04.htm.... IBM never defined a language called FORTRAN V, or provided a compiler for it, but some of its competitors used the term for their extended versions of FORTRAN. Univac and Data General are two companies that sold compilers for a language which they called FORTRAN V. In general, FORTRAN V compilers included the CHARACTER data type as a standard feature of the language, and they added the ENCODE and DECODE statements as well. These statements allowed a character variable to be used instead of an input-output device as the source for a formatted read, or the target of a formatted write, and they looked like this: CHARACTER*80 BUFFER ... ENCODE(80,11,BUFFER),X,Y,Z ... DECODE(80,10,BUFFER),P,Q,R ... STOP 10 FORMAT (3F12.5) 11 FORMAT (3F12.5) END Mike On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 6:20 PM Jon "maddog" Hall <jon.maddog.hall(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I had not heard of Fortran 5 (or Fortran V) and a half-hearted search of > the Internet did not find anything. > > Do you have any pointers to it? > > Thanks, > > md > > On Thu, Apr 21, 2022, 18:09 Mike Peckar <mpeckar(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> According to the Guiness Book of World records, The computer system that >> has been in continual operation for the longest period is the Computer >> Command System (CCS) onboard NASA's *Voyager 2* spacecraft. This system >> has been in continuous operation since the spacecraft's launch on 20 August >> 1977. Voyager 1's CCS uptime trails it by a couple of weeks and both are >> still going. >> >> Each Voyager has two CCSs, two Flight Data System (FDS) computers and two >> Attitude and Articulation Control System (AACS) computers, but the FDS & >> AACS do not operate continuously. The CCS's have two 18-bit word, interrupt >> type processors with 4096 words each of non-volatile plated wire memory >> amounting to 69.63 kilobytes. They execute about 81,000 instructions per >> second and transmit data back to Earth at 160 bits per second. They were >> originally programmed in Fortran 5. >> >> Mike >> >> On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 12:32 PM Jon "maddog" Hall < >> jon.maddog.hall(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Mike, >>> >>> Believe it or not, both VMS and Digital Unix systems were the same way. >>> They would go months and years without rebooting. >>> >>> The US Navy had two hospital ships, the "Mercy" and the "Hope". One >>> stationed on the East Coast and one in San Diego. The one on the East >>> Coast used WNT for the servers and the one in San Diego used GNU/Linux. >>> The ship using WNT had to have twice as many servers as the one in San >>> Diego because the Navy rules said that a WNT server HAD to be rebooted >>> every 30 days, whereas there was no such requirement for GNU/Linux. Since >>> a Naval deployment could last longer than 30 days, and since they needed >>> the server services to be up constantly that whole time, they needed twice >>> as many WNT servers. >>> >>> md >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 8:58 AM Mike Peckar via WLUG < >>> wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Fun Story, Maddog. Around 20 yrs ago I was consulting for Bloomberg in >>>> Skillman, NJ, a big Solaris shop. The HP app I was working with bellied up >>>> with memory leaks and I suggested they reboot that server. I was told flat >>>> out they don't reboot Solaris servers period. They cleaned up the mess and >>>> isolated where in the HP code that the pointer was lost, leaving me the >>>> not-so-fun task of filing the bug report with HP. >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 7:39 PM Jon "maddog" Hall via WLUG < >>>> wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Tim, >>>>> >>>>> What was the reason for shutting it down? >>>>> >>>>> This reminds me of a story from years ago where a young friend >>>>> contacted me before a trip to the University of New Hampshire for a Linux >>>>> LUG meeting. >>>>> >>>>> He asked me if I would go to a particular dorm and knock on the door >>>>> of what had been his door room. I was to ask if I could unplug the box >>>>> that was in the corner of the closet in the room. The system had been >>>>> running for five years in his former dorm room and he had forgotten the >>>>> login password. He did not want the machine back, just wanted it >>>>> unplugged. >>>>> >>>>> A young woman answered the door, heard my explanation and let me >>>>> unplug the machine. "We were afraid to unplug it" she said. >>>>> >>>>> Your machine beat his machine on uptime. >>>>> >>>>> md >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 5:07 PM Tim Keller via WLUG < >>>>> wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I just shutdown a linux machine with 3169 days of uptime! >>>>>> It had userland processes that have been actively running since 2013! >>>>>> Tim. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >>>>>> constituents as "consumers". >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >>>>>> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >>>>>> Change Settings: >>>>>> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >>>>>> Web Forum/Archive: >>>>>> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/PW3ML… >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >>>>> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >>>>> Change Settings: >>>>> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >>>>> Web Forum/Archive: >>>>> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/KSUVD… >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >>>> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >>>> Change Settings: >>>> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >>>> Web Forum/Archive: >>>> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/ZZZSN… >>>> >>>

2 years, 7 months

Re: [Wlug] Enterprise Linux Forum - Special Offer for Linux User Groups

by Karl Hiramoto

I'll be there for the free stuff, but can't afford the spendy stuff. On Thu, 31 Oct 2002, Andy Stewart wrote: > > > Hi Everybody, > > On Dec. 3 and 4, 2002, the Enterprise Linux Forum will be held at the Boston > Marriot (Copley Place) in Boston, MA. We have been offered a $200 discount > for WLUG members who attend the event. If you want more information, read > below that which was sent to me. If you wish to go and can't read the > attachments, send me e-mail. > > Later, > > Andy > > > > > ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- > > Subject: Enterprise Linux Forum - Special Offer for Linux User Groups > Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:27:15 -0500 > From: Juliet Sigmann <jsigmann(a)jupitermedia.com> > To: andystewart(a)attbi.com > > Andy, > > I hope you do not think it too forward of me to send you this e-mail, but I > came across Worcester Linux Users Group while researching Linux associations > and user group sites. My company, Jupitermedia, has developed a conference > that I believe will be of interest to you and other members of Worcester > Linux Users Group . The name of the event is Enterprise Linux Forum > Conference & Expo. For complete details on this event, visit > http://www.enterpriselinuxforum.com > > I would like to offer Worcester Linux Users Group members a $200 discount to > attend the Enterprise Linux Forum. Registrations processed by November 19th > save an additional $100 off the regular conference price. The conference > offers 1-Day, 2-Day, and Expo Pass (free) passes to the event. > > This e-mail is not a "sales call", but is a win-win business proposition. > We are seeking to drive attendance at this first time (albeit world-class) > event. We can offer you and other Worcester Linux Users Group members a > world class event that touches on a number of subjects via 4 comprehensive > tracks that I believe would be of interest to your group such as Linux in > the Datacenter; Clustered and Distributed Computing; Operations, Management > and Infrastructure; and Application, Storage and Information Management. > Scroll below for the complete line-up of speakers and topics to be > highlighted at this event. > > As the conference brochure (attached in PDF format) relates, this event is > set to run December 3-4, 2002 at the Boston Marriott Copley Place in Boston, > MA. > > Currently, the event is sponsored by Red Hat (Premier Sponsor), BMC > Software, Computer Associates, Dell, Egenera, IBM, NeTraverse, Oracle, Sun > Microsystems, SuSE Linux, Ximian, and more. Additional supporters of the > event include: Illuminata (Premier Analyst Sponsor) and association sponsors > Free Standards Group, GNOME Foundation, Linux International, and Open Source > Development Lab. Media sponsors include, Capterra, HostingTech, IT Toolbox, > Linux Journal, and OutsourcingCentral.com. > > Visit the event web site at www.enterpriselinuxforum.com for the most > up-to-date listing of speakers, session descriptions, sponsors, and > exhibitors. > > Again, I would like to offer Worcester Linux Users Group members a $200 > discount to attend the Enterprise Linux Forum. As you can see from the > number and quality of sponsors and speakers, this is a first rate event. > > I have attached with this e-mail a fax back registration form with the $200 > discount as well as some copy that you could include in an email newsletter > to you members or your web site. In order for your members to take > advantage of this $200 discount, they will need to use the priority code > assigned in the fax back form or attached copy. > > Please call me directly if you have any comments or questions. > > Sincerely, > > Juliet Sigmann > Marketing Manager > > Jupitermedia Corporation > (formerly INT Media Group) > 30 Lyman Street, Suite 8 > Westboro, MA 01581 > T: 508-870-5858 x119 > F: 508-870-6521 > eFax: 801-761-9698 > jsigmann(a)jupitermedia.com > www.jupitermedia.com > > **************************************************************************** > *************** > Keynotes and Sessions > Click on http://www.jupiterevents.com/elf/fall02/glance.html for the > complete agenda > > Keynote 1: The Inevitable Linux Momentum - Matthew J. Szulik, Chairman, CEO > and President, Red Hat > Keynote 2: Linux in Prime Time: Open Source Meets Enterprise Requirements - > Jonathan Eunice, President and Principal > Analyst, Illuminata > Keynote 3: IBM Enterprise Solutions for Linux - Steven C. Solazzo, General > Manager, Linux, IBM > Keynote 4: Unbreakable Linux - Rene Bonvanie, VP of Oracle9i Marketing, > Oracle Corporation > > Session 1: The Changing Face of Linux - David Niemi, Director of Systems > Engineering, Adeptech Systems, Inc. > Session 2: Linux High Availability Cluster Selection - Tim Burke, Advanced > Server Technical Project Leader, Red Hat > Session 3: VPN Enterprise Implementation at Rochester Midland - Tony > Karakashian, Network Manager, Rochester Midland > Corporation > Session 4: Linux as Embedded Operating System - Rob Lembree, Technical > Director, Metro Link, Inc. > Session 5: How Sitel Worldwide Runs Call Centers Utilizing Linux - Scott > Clark, Director of Systems Engineering, Sitel Corporation > Session 6: PANEL: Server Consolidation Strategies Using Linux - Moderator: > Brian Proffitt, Managing Editor, LinuxToday.com > Session 7: The Enterprise Linux Desktop: Addressing Corporate Needs - Nat > Friedman, Co-founder and Vice President of Product > Development, Ximian > Session 8: Managing Linux on Datacenter Mainframe Systems - Alex deVries, > Principal Solutions Architect, Linuxcare > Session 9: The Future of Open Source Software in the Enterprise - Randy > Terbush, Managing Partner, Tribal Knowledge Group > Session 10: The Future of Datacenter Computing: How the Combination of > Storage Area Networks and Processing Area Networks > Solves Multiple Pain Points for Enterprise Datacenters > Session 11: Apache: An Enterprise-Level Server - Daniel Lopez Ridruejo, > Senior Developer, Instant802 Networks > Session 12: The Virtual Environment - Where Does Linux Fit? - Dan > Kusnetzky, Vice President, System Software Research, IDC > Session 13: Enterprise-Ready Linux on the Mainframe: The Path to Success - > Sam Greenblatt, SVP, Computer Associates > Session 14: The Linux Factor: How Linux and Friends will Reshape > Application by 2005 - Jasmine Noel, Founder and Principal, > JNoel Associates > Session 15: Rethinking the Linux Distribution: Linux as Platform, Not > Product - Ian Murdock, Progeny > Session 16: Linux Clusters and Open Source Software in the Life Sciences - > Glenn Otero, Ph.D., Founder and Principal, Linux > Prophet > Session 17: The Linux Standard Base - Changing Everything You Think About > Linux - Scott McNeil, Executive Director, Free > Standards Group > Session 18: Linux in Business: Answering Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt - > Russell Pavlicek, Independent Consultant > Session 19: PANEL: Integrating Linux Into the Enterprise - Moderator: Brian > Proffitt, Managing Editor, LinuxToday.com > Session 20: Open Source Development Lab Data Center Linux (DCL) for OLTP > and DSS - Timothy Witham, Lab Director, Open > Source Development Lab > Session 21: Migrating C/C++ Applications from Unix to Linux - Shel Travis, > Vice President of Research, MigraTEC > Session 22: Web Services: The Killer Application for Open Source - > Christian Gross, Software Engineering Consultant > Session 23: Linux Database Clusters for High Performance Computing - Boris > C. Bialek, Manager, DB2 Strategic Technologies, > IBM Toronto Lab > Session 24: High-Performance End-to-End Computing Using Linux - Chris > Maresca, Senior Partner, Olliance Group, LLC > > **************************************************************************** > *************** > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > -- ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> Work: 978-425-2090 ext 25 Cell: 508-517-4819 Personal web page: http://karl.hiramoto.org/ Freedom: http://www.technojihad.com/ Zoop Productions: http://www.zoop.org/ KTEQ Rapid City: http://www.kteq.org/ AOL IM ID = KarlH420 Yahoo_IM = karl_hiramoto ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø The older I grow, the less important the comma becomes. Let the reader catch his own breath. -- Elizabeth Clarkson Zwart

22 years, 1 month

Re: Wlug Digest, Vol 4, Issue 1

by Arturo Sedo

There is also another option. If you have another computer you can burn a copy of knopix. Once you create the cd, you insert it into the CDROM drive, boot from CDROM to a nice KDE GUI and all partitions are automatically mounted. Click on the partition that has the needed info and you are good to go. It may sound complicated but Knopix has a really fine User Interface. (If you don't have a CDROM you can do the same thing with Tomsrbtb from a floppy) Then when you want to create a boot disk you can open a command window, mount the root partition and then do "chroot /mnt/rootPartition". From there you can run lilo or mkbootdisk. Good luck. Arturo On Mon, 2004-02-02 at 12:00, wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org wrote: > Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. RedHat 7.1 boot floppy (Norm Legare) > 2. Re: RedHat 7.1 boot floppy (James Baldassari) > 3. RE: RedHat 7.1 boot floppy (Moti Abramovich) > 4. RE: RedHat 7.1 boot floppy (Adam Keck) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 12:56:51 -0800 (PST) > From: Norm Legare <normlegare(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: [Wlug] RedHat 7.1 boot floppy > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Message-ID: <20040201205651.14333.qmail(a)web13425.mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hi All, > > My desktop has 2 hard drives, one with Windows, one with Linux. By > inserting the floppy, it boots Linux. Unfortunately, the floppy just > stopped working (I get the Linux prompt, but then booting reports disk > failure) for some reason. I need to retrieve several files on the > Linux hard drive. I have RedHat 7.1 on cd. Can a new boot floppy > be made while preserving the existing Linux installation? > > Thanks, > Norm > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! > http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 16:18:53 -0500 (EST) > From: James Baldassari <jdb(a)WPI.EDU> > Subject: Re: [Wlug] RedHat 7.1 boot floppy > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0402011615590.17100(a)ccc3.WPI.EDU> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > Hi Norm. You can probably find a Red Hat boot disk image somewhere (just > google it), and there are Windows utilities for writing images to > floppies. I think one of them is called rwfloppy, which I can send to you > if you can't find it. You will probably have to edit the boot disk once > it's created so that it points to your linux drive. When you get your > system back up and running I would recommend installing LILO so that you > don't run into this problem again. The newer versions of Windows also > have built-in support for booting multiple OSes. > -James > > On Sun, 1 Feb 2004, Norm Legare wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > My desktop has 2 hard drives, one with Windows, one with Linux. By > > inserting the floppy, it boots Linux. Unfortunately, the floppy just > > stopped working (I get the Linux prompt, but then booting reports disk > > failure) for some reason. I need to retrieve several files on the > > Linux hard drive. I have RedHat 7.1 on cd. Can a new boot floppy > > be made while preserving the existing Linux installation? > > > > Thanks, > > Norm > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! > > http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 06:12:24 -0500 > From: "Moti Abramovich" <motia(a)comcast.net> > Subject: RE: [Wlug] RedHat 7.1 boot floppy > To: "'Worcester Linux Users Group'" <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Message-ID: <000701c3e97d$6fbfa400$0200a8c0@laptop1> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Norm. > It depends what version of windows you have, but your best bet would be to > set up your windows for "dual boot" so when you boot your system, a menu > will come up and ask you which operating system you want to boot to - > Windows or Linux. > Moti > > -----Original Message----- > From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On > Behalf Of Norm Legare > Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 3:57 PM > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: [Wlug] RedHat 7.1 boot floppy > > Hi All, > > My desktop has 2 hard drives, one with Windows, one with Linux. By > inserting the floppy, it boots Linux. Unfortunately, the floppy just > stopped working (I get the Linux prompt, but then booting reports disk > failure) for some reason. I need to retrieve several files on the > Linux hard drive. I have RedHat 7.1 on cd. Can a new boot floppy > be made while preserving the existing Linux installation? > > Thanks, > Norm > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! > http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: 02 Feb 2004 09:28:46 -0500 > From: Adam Keck <ghostis(a)mac.com> > Subject: RE: [Wlug] RedHat 7.1 boot floppy > To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > Cc: Adam Keck <ghostis(a)mac.com> > Message-ID: <1075732127.4990.17.camel@alfred> > Content-Type: text/plain > > > inserting the floppy, it boots Linux. Unfortunately, the floppy just > > stopped working (I get the Linux prompt, but then booting reports disk > > failure) for some reason. I need to retrieve several files on the > > Linux hard drive. I have RedHat 7.1 on cd. Can a new boot floppy > > be made while preserving the existing Linux installation? > > Norm, > This is no big deal if you know what hardware you have. You will need > a second linux machine to solve this so perhaps someone will agree to > drop by the next meeting with a laptop. > > 1. Get a machine with mtools, superformat and syslinux installed and a > kernel source tree. > 2. Recompile a non-modular kernel with support for your hardware and > filesystems and nothing else. > 3. Insert a floppy and then run: superformat /dev/hd0 > 4. When that's done run: syslinux /dev/fd0 > 5. Mcopy the new kernel from /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot to the > floppy: mcopy /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage a:\kernel.img > 6. Open a text file called syslinux.cfg in your favorite editor. > 7. Put the following in syslinux.cfg (with the appropriate value for > your root parition filled in): > > DEFAULT LINUX > LABEL LINUX > KERNEL kernel.img > APPEND root=/dev/{your root partition device here} > > 8. Save that file then mcopy it to the floppy: mcopy syslinux.cfg a: > 9. Reboot your machine from the floppy. > > There are other ways to do this that may be more elegant. For example > you may be able to so this on your machine by booting the rescue kernel > with the first RedHat CD and then chrooting to your environment. This > how I do it, though ;-). > > > -Adam > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > End of Wlug Digest, Vol 4, Issue 1 > **********************************

20 years, 10 months

Re: [Wlug] Charter Telephone reviews, boylston?

by Jared Greenwald

A word to the wise, make sure that they actually can port your number before you switch. I moved into a new place in Uxbridge a couple years ago. So new that they didn't even have the cable company's lines - so I just got a package through Verizon that included DirecTV and DSL. Then about 6 months later they finally attached the street hookups for our development so we could get it. They sent out reps to our houses to sell us on the services inlcuding phone. The rep swore up and down that we would be able to keep our number that we'd gotten from Verizon, so we got all signed up. When the installation day came, I was then told that I could not get my number ported and there was nothing they could do about it. I fought tooth and nail and filed complaints with every level of manager I could to figure out why. Come to find out that my town is serviced by two different high-level telephone routers and that one router is setup to process 278 exchange and the other is setup to handle 266 exchange. There is some arbitrary line in my area that if you fall on one side of the line you get 278 and the other gets 266 - totally bogus. I tried to reason with them that the phone switch in my house was just a network device and that, once on the network, they could route whatever number to it that they wanted, but the customer reps I talked to that could actually understand what I was talking about just weren't having it. I finally just accepted it and figured I'd have to just suck it up, but then I found out that the service didn't work with the phone system I had at the time (multi-cordless with base that cost like $150+). They tried to tell me to just get a new phone and I was like - so you're going to pay for that same feature set on a new set of phones for me? At this point I had already canceled all of my other services including the DSL. Another word to the wise on that front. Don't ever cancel your DSL unless you are 100% certain you don't want it. It takes a minimum of 10 days to get your new DSL connection setup, yet when you cancel your service it goes dead nearly immediately. So, if you accidentally change your mind, you have to wait 10 days to get it back on. In the end, I was able to get my original Verizon number back and get my DSL and DirecTV turned on again, but it was the most painful experience that I have gone through in quite a while. I actually still have Charter, but just for the local cable access package ($13/mo) so that I can watch the selectman's meetings and stuff like that. Just figured I'd share my experience. -Jared On 9/15/07, Stephen Daukas <scd(a)daukas.com> wrote: > We upgraded to the digital/phone/Internet package and installed only one > digital box wit the rest of the house on analog. While I can only speak > definitively about Shrewsbury Cable, I can't see how this wouldn't work > anywhere... > > Depending on the equipment the cable provider uses, one or more splitters > with the appropriate notch filters on each output, may be necessary to > separate out the unwanted packets and phone signals for each device. In > Shrewsbury's case, the gear they now use doesn't require the filters, so I > split the incoming cable using the town's original 1:3 splitter, connected > one output to an amplified splitter (Radio Shack) to provide analog to the > rest of the house (via additional splitters - everything is configured as > what's called a "home-run" to the basement), and connected each of the other > two outputs to the digital box and phone/cable modem respectively. The tech > from Shrewsbury had no problem with this configuration because if you want > independent digital signals, you need two or more digital tuners. If you > want to see what this looks like, I'll send a link to pics on picassaweb. > > Since I have finished the basement as something of a Pub, I have a little TV > mounted in a corner above the bar. I am about to split the signal from the > digital box's output, in the same way as described above for the whole > house, so that both the larger TV and the "bar TV" can be driven by the one > digital tuner - the digital box output to the TV is analog. > > There is one very important issue to remember when playing "cable guy": > Avoid putting an amplified splitter, or even a cheap splitter, in-line > between your digital (or phone) gear and the outside world! These digital > devices are bi-directional and the amplifier is essentially a capacitor that > will block all but 60Hz(+/-) and will typically not allow return signals to > pass. Sometimes, a cheap splitter's internal configuration is such that the > return signal is degraded so much that it too is essentially blocked. > (Anyone who has had trouble using BSRs to control lights or other appliances > working on some outlets in the home, but not others, is fighting a similar > issue with the circuit panel being the culprit). You can buy cable amps > that will accommodate digital devices, but a good splitter was less > expensive the last time I checked. > > And one last tidbit... As of July (?) of this year, cable providers are now > required to allow you to purchase the digital box if you don't want to pay a > monthly rental fee. I'm not sure if you can be restricted to the one being > provided by the cable provider, or if they are required to support any > digital tuner the customer may have... This could be a savings if you have > several TVs because the typical monthly fee for a digital box is ~$8/month, > or ~ 100/yr. > > Later, > Steve > > > On 9/15/07, Frank Sweetser <fs(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > > John Stoffel wrote: > > > Before we had a splitter in the analog cable, with one feed going to > > > the TV directly, the other going to the TiVo. This way we could watch > > > live TV (commercials and all!) when the TiVo was recording something > > > we wanted, but didn't want to watch at the moment. > > > > > > Now that we have digital cable, I don't think I'm going to be able to > > > do this anymore. Dammit. This is an oversight/gotcha that I didn't > > > realize. > > > > > > I'll see how much extra it will cost to get another digital set top > > > box, which I'll dedicate to my TiVo's use I think. :] I > > > dunno... maybe there's a way to do this. Anyone know for sure if the > > > Scientific Atlanta set top box has analog output of *all* channels, so > > > I can just tune up and down using the TV tunner? Even if I don't get > > > over channel 99 on there, I'd be ok with that. > > > > > > I suspect (strongly) that it doesn't work that way and that I'm > > > screwed, sorta. Not terrible actually, but annoying. > > > > Actually, it does. If you throw a splitter in, you'll find that all of > the > > analog signals are still there just as before. > > > > One thing you'll need to be aware of, though, is that depending on where > you > > put them, adding in too many splitters will now degrade the signal quality > for > > your phone as well as just your television picture, so make sure you give > the > > phone box priority. > > > > -- > > Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution > that > > WPI Senior Network Engineer | is simple, elegant, and wrong. - HL > Mencken > > GPG fingerprint = 6174 1257 129E 0D21 D8D4 E8A3 8E39 29E3 E2E8 8CEC > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > -- > Stephen C. 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