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Yet Another Perl Conference final details

by Gerard Lim

Hi everyone... This email could be of interest to people interested in the Perl programming language. I know that in Toronto there is a good-sized overlap between Linux people and Perl people (we occasionally hold "joint sessions" of our user group meetings) so we hoped to share this information with Linux folks more widely. There have been some recent developments on the YAPC::NA front, and it has been suggested to us that a reminder might be helpful to some people, so here's a quick summary of the event. Summary ------- YAPC::NA 2005 (Yet Another Perl Conference, North America) in Toronto, Canada, Monday - Wednesday 27 - 29 June, 2005 Home page: http://yapc.org/America/ Conference Location: http://89chestnut.com/ A facility of the University of Toronto Accommodations -------------- Normally registration information would come first, but accommodations are the bottleneck -- our main group reservation (at the conference hotel) expires at the end of the week, and as the conference approaches it will be extremely difficult to find a hotel anywhere in the city. Info on how to book at: http://yapc.org/America/accommodations-2005.shtml Registration ------------ Register now! :-) We are on track to break attendance records at YAPC::NA this year, and we could even sell out before the conference starts. The price for the full 3 days is USD$85. We keep it insanely low through many generous sponsorships and the all-volunteer organizational and speaking crews. Registration info: http://yapc.org/America/register-2005.shtml Direct registration link: http://donate.perlfoundation.org/index.pl?node=registrant%20info&conference… Conference Speaking Schedule ---------------------------- We've got an excellent selection of talks and speakers for Perl programmers of all levels, beginner through expert. We are fortunate enough to have presentations coming from some of the most recognizable names in Perl programming today, including Larry Wall, Chip Salzenberg, Dan Sugalski, Autrijus Tang and brian d foy. Summary -- http://yapc.org/America/schedule-2005/summary.html Day 1 -- http://yapc.org/America/schedule-2005/day1.html Day 2 -- http://yapc.org/America/schedule-2005/day2.html Day 3 -- http://yapc.org/America/schedule-2005/day3.html Lightning Talks --------------- These short (5 minutes each) talks, presented by the conference attendees, are a YAPC tradition. If you're interested please read more about them and sign up: http://www.justanotherperlhacker.org/lightning/ [ This message was sent by Gerard Lim <glim(a)mycybernet.net> on behalf of the YAPC::NA 2005 Conference organizing committee of the Toronto Perl Mongers. Thanks for your patience and support. ]

20 years, 5 months

RE: [Wlug] VNC performance

by Jeremy

FYI: Regedt32 is a slightly uglier RegEdit but includes the ability to change the permissions of certain keys (i.e. driver enum keys etc). Even when logged in administrator (which is probably why you cant change the registry - are you logged in as administrator or similar rights?) certain keys do not have write/delete access. Using regedt32 allows you to change the permission (assume admin rights) of such keys and therefore modify them. I only use regedt32 as a last resort when modify the Windows Registry, otherwise use regedit. --- "Evans, Robert" <Robert.Evans(a)stratus.com> wrote: > Try using a registry editor on Windows: > (Typically in these places on Windows 2000) > C:WINNT egedit.exe > C:WINNTsystem32 egedt32.exe > > Robert N. Evans > Software Engineer > S T R A T U S T E C H N O L O G I E S > 111 Powdermill Road, Maynard, MA 01754-3409 U.S.A. > * Tel. 978-461-7680 / * Fax. 978-461-3610 > robert.evans(a)stratus.com > Amateur Radio Call: N1BE > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brad Noyes [mailto:maitre@ccs.neu.edu] > Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 2:36 PM > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Subject: [Wlug] VNC performance > > > Hi All, > I remember some time ago talking with Andy, and others about VNC performance > at a > wlug meeting. I remember that setting the depth 8 will help performance, as > well > as disabling the wallpaper. I am running the server on windows, and the > client > on a linux machine. VNC's site has info for disabling wallpaper, but it > seems to > involve editing a registry file. When i try to do so, i get an access denied > message, because that file is read only. Can someone help me out here? I > really > know very little about windows. On the client side, the option '-depth 8' > doesn't seem to do very much i get '16 bits per pixel'. > > If anyone knows of any other methods for speeding up VNC, please post. > > Thanks, > --Brad > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Buy the perfect holiday gifts at Yahoo! Shopping. http://shopping.yahoo.com

23 years, 10 months

Re: [Wlug] Fw: RE: show

by doug waud

Hi all Yury I Vashugin wrote: > first, we need people to produce the show. it's a commitment of half an > hour ones? a month.(could be ones in two months) is there anyone who > would like to join the venture? I have been lurking and on the horns of a dilema. The above comments got me off the fence. (On re-reading, that is an atrocious mixed metaphor --- natural talent!) :-) Then general idea of proseletizing strikes me as reasonable. However, I think it is a good idea to do as good a job as possible. Although I admit to little direct experience with such exercises, my impression is that they should not be lightly undertaken. In particular, I gather it takes about ten hours preparation for one hour of finished product (and that ratio is probabley optimistic). You have to identify your audience, identify, rank and organize what topics should be covered, decide on how best to utilize the time, write some sort of at least a detailed outline, if not a full script, try dry run(s). etc. So far, all I see is the idea that a group of well-meaning people are supposed to show up and "wing it". Sounds like a disaster waiting to happen. The discussion at the end of the last WLUG meeting demonstrated little more that that there were about as many views as to how to proceed as there were people in the discussion. Lots of chiefs, no indians. Now I readily confess that I am very good at spotting the negative side of just about anything. :-) (On a plane ride from Florida to Philadelphia, I once convinved a pharmacological colleague that an idea he was exploring made no sense at all. Years later, when Julie Axelrod got the Nobel prize for that general concept, I had one of those "oh shit" moments. Fortunately for me, the guy from Philadelphia, it turned out, had dropped the issue, but not on the basis of my comments.) The other horn of my dilema, is that I would like to help, but don't want to appear and just be a wet blanket. Since the "event" is right here is Shrewsbury, I'll probably show up (since I can at least function as a "gofer", pull out power cords and the like) but try to maintain a low profile. doug

22 years

Re: [Wlug] Test needed on declared-ill Modem. Who has a lab?

by Eric Martin

Make sure that you update the MAC address with charter, and that they actually update it. I've had a few problems where they haven't even though they said they did. Also, a lot of modems have diagnostic suites built in. An easy enough way to get at it is to turn it off, and unscrew the coax line. Now boot it up, and it won't get an IP from charter, but it should give your router an ip like 193.168.100.100, and the gateway should he something like 192.168.100.1 (check for specifics) but that gateway is your modem. Punch that IP into a browser and see what comes up, usually the password is something stupid, and a Google search will yield it if its not admin. Keep in mind you pulled the cable, so it will show that. This will also work when you have no internet, and it usually shortens phone calls with Charter. sent from my mobile Eric On Sep 26, 2012 10:42 AM, "Richard Klein" <rich(a)richardklein.org> wrote: > Liz, > I live in Clinton these days, where Verizon DSL and Comcast are the > only options. Comcast is faster, but their monthly data caps made > Verizon the better choice for me (not to mention my general distaste > for cable companies). > > I recently had superficially similar problems. I went on freecycle > and got someone's old DSL modem to swap for my own, to rule that out, > but I got impatient and bought a new modem before I got the reply from > freecycle. In any case, you probably can get another cable modem off > freecycle for testing purposes. > > After the new modem didn't fix things, I finally called Verizon. > They sent out a tech with a good "bedside" manner (he was friendly, > seemed to know what he was talking about, and didn't talk down to me). > He didn't find anything wrong with my signal, but he did notice the > copper loop to my apartment was longer than necessary and cut down the > excess at the pole. I haven't had any problems in the 2 months since. > In retrospect, I think my problems were mostly on hot, humid days. > > -- > Rich > > On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 7:11 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Umm. Non-happy camper. ISP things have changed here, without me being > > informed. Recently (2 days ago) my modem started rebooting every little > > while. Zillions of T3 & T4 timouts in the modem log, Signal lavels were > > perfect when it was online. I own this thing, a Motorola SB6120 > purchased > > late June 2010. It has not been abused. > > > > I am in Woosta & we all know the ISP available here. 2 techs showed up > > mid-morning, to diagnose and fix this issue. One guy stood there > watching; > > the other guy "did stuff." They checked the signal levels on incoming > line > > from the box connected to the pole our back, and declared my moden Dying. > > They talked to each other (not me) & seemed to think I was > Granny-in-a-Box, > > until they let me say more than one sentence. > > > > These guys also confessed that since July 202, Ch4rter does not "allow" > > customers to own/run their own modems. Their consolation prize is that > they > > don't charge modem rental fees any more. (it's not on the bill, anyway, > > FWIW). They mumbled some other mumbo jumbo and fled 5 seconds after they > > learned I have my own router too, & didn't care if the modem and router > were > > yet in communication. They just said "better reboot" and they "no longer" > > service "wireless" --which I am not running except when certain visitors > > appear. I think they meant they don't diagnose routers, which has always > > been the policy, and which is fine. Internal LAN issues aren't their > > problem. > > > > So now I have a modem which may or may not be sick, but no way to test > it to > > make sure. Is there anyone here who can take a look at this thing & test > to > > see if it's Really Dying, or if Ch4rter deaded it with their latest > > firmware revision of their firmware & policy change in July 2012? > > > > An interesting meeting theme sometime might be how to get the Verizon > FIOS > > in Worcester. Several years ago I watched Verizon trucks & Verizon moles > > installing their fiber optics in manholes all over town. Ch4rter is > running > > on Verizon's infrastructure. Ch4rter internet has been working better > since > > then, but we're still locked out of the option to use verizon. Is this a > > topic of interest to anyone? If so, I'll lead the discussion and even buy > > the Pizz4. To me, this is a Large Pizza problem. > > > > Another interesting but probably futile discussion might center around > why > > we have suddenly been deprived of the ability to watch the behavior and > > effectiveness of our modems, which serve internet coming from our ISP.. I > > was not informed of this -- was anyone who is just a 'regular' customer? > > > > Meanwhile, if anyone has a test lab or whatever, where they can test my > > declared-dead modem, please let me know. Otherwise it's probably a > giveaway, > > or another piece of Landfill Fodder. I can bring to a meeting & can wait > for > > results. > > > > Thanks & happy pizzaz, > > Liz J > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

13 years, 1 month

Re: [Wlug] Dec Meeting announcement / linux-raid problem

by Chuck Anderson

On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 06:42:36AM -0500, Eric Martin wrote: > On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 4:52 PM, John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > > > >>>>> "Eric" == Eric Martin <eric.joshua.martin(a)gmail.com> writes: > > > > Eric> Now, the main reason for my email. My mythbox / home file > > Eric> server runs linux soft-raid in RAID5 with 3 500GB disks. One > > Eric> disk went bad a while ago and the array never rebuilt itself. > > > > So you only had two 500Gb disks left in the array? > > > Correct. I just received my new disk yesterday and dd_rescued the data from > the bad disk onto a fresh disk. the array won't start, so here's the info > you asked for I know it is confusing, but ddrescue and dd_rescue are two different projects that have no relation to each other, other than the fact that they do similar things. GNU ddrescue is the more advanced of the two and I would recommend it over dd_rescue--it may be able to recover more data (unless you use the cumbersome dd_rhelp helper shell script with dd_rescue). Check this out: http://www.toad.com/gnu/sysadmin/index.html#ddrescue > BTW, this is what I was missing. there was no warning that my disk was > bad! Like I said, I have backups but the last one failed so I want > something tighter I run smartd (from smartmontools) and mdmonitor (mdmon) as daemons to monitor for SMART errors and array issues. On Fedora/Red Hat like systems this is as simple as: chkconfig mdmonitor on chkconfig smartd on service mdmonitor start chkconfig smartd start (and making sure that root mail goes somewhere useful) mdmon will monitor the arrays that are specified in /etc/mdadm.conf (which incidentally is written automatically by the Fedora installer) and let you know if any component device of an array has trouble or drops out for any reason. smartd will monitor devices listed in /etc/smartd.conf (or with DEVICESCAN it will scan and monitor all available ATA/SCSI devices on the system) and let you know if you start getting uncorrectable errors, reallocated sectors, etc. which can be a nice early-warning system. I usually replace disks as soon as a single sector is reallocated or "pending". But even with these, you still should "scrub" the array--try to read every sector on all devices that make up the array--to find errors that might otherwise be missed. I believe that is what the checkarray script that John posted about does. checkarray appears to be a Debian-specific script. My Fedora system has a similar one called raid-check: /etc/cron.weekly/99-raid-check /etc/sysconfig/raid-check #!/bin/bash # # Configuration file for /etc/cron.weekly/raid-check # # options: # ENABLED - must be yes in order for the raid check to proceed # CHECK - can be either check or repair depending on the type of # operation the user desires. A check operation will scan # the drives looking for bad sectors and automatically # repairing only bad sectors. If it finds good sectors that # contain bad data (meaning that the data in a sector does # not agree with what the data from another disk indicates # the data should be, for example the parity block + the other # data blocks would cause us to think that this data block # is incorrect), then it does nothing but increments the # counter in the file /sys/block/$dev/md/mismatch_count. # This allows the sysadmin to inspect the data in the sector # and the data that would be produced by rebuilding the # sector from redundant information and pick the correct # data to keep. The repair option does the same thing, but # when it encounters a mismatch in the data, it automatically # updates the data to be consistent. However, since we really # don't know whether it's the parity or the data block that's # correct (or which data block in the case of raid1), it's # luck of the draw whether or not the user gets the right # data instead of the bad data. This option is the default # option for devices not listed in either CHECK_DEVS or # REPAIR_DEVS. # CHECK_DEVS - a space delimited list of devs that the user specifically # wants to run a check operation on. # REPAIR_DEVS - a space delimited list of devs that the user # specifically wants to run a repair on. # SKIP_DEVS - a space delimited list of devs that should be skipped # # Note: the raid-check script intentionaly runs last in the cron.weekly # sequence. This is so we can wait for all the resync operations to complete # and then check the mismatch_count on each array without unduly delaying # other weekly cron jobs. If any arrays have a non-0 mismatch_count after # the check completes, we echo a warning to stdout which will then me emailed # to the admin as long as mails from cron jobs have not been redirected to # /dev/null. We do not wait for repair operations to complete as the # md stack will correct any mismatch_cnts automatically. # # Note2: you can not use symbolic names for the raid devices, such as you # /dev/md/root. The names used in this file must match the names seen in # /proc/mdstat and in /sys/block. ENABLED=yes CHECK=check # To check devs /dev/md0 and /dev/md3, use "md0 md3" CHECK_DEVS="" REPAIR_DEVS="" SKIP_DEVS="" Finally, if you do come across bad sectors on a device, they will only usually be reallocated to a spare sector on the media when the sector is written to rather than just read from. As a last ditch "I really want to continue using this bad disk, please just reallocate the bad sectors and I'll deal with the data that is already lost" you can try to force a reallocation with hdparm --repair-sector: --repair-sector This is an alias for the --write-sector flag. VERY DANGEROUS. --write-sector Writes zeros to the specified sector number. VERY DANGEROUS. The sector number must be given (base10) after this flag. hdparm will issue a low-level write (completely bypassing the usual block layer read/write mechanisms) to the specified sec- tor. This can be used to force a drive to repair a bad sector (media error). But I would really think about replacing any disks that have developed such bad sectors, as it is only a matter of time before you run out of spare sectors to reallocate to.

14 years, 10 months

Re: Keyboard recommendations

by Frank Sweetser

So my primary keyboard these days is one of the older TEK keyboards. They're still mostly QWERTY, but have moved a few of the special keys around, like enter and delete. Even these took some time to get used to, and a little more time to get used to switching back and forth with the typical layout on anything else. I'd have to see some pretty impressive improvements before I'd try to really put in the work to learn and switch between the whole alphabet. Besides, I find that the keyboard is rarely the bottleneck - I quite frequently can type faster than I can think, so typing faster wouldn't speed up my work at all! On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 10:27 AM Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > What do people think of alternative keyboard layouts? > > I ask because a couple of my co-workers use "workman" > > https://raw.githubusercontent.com/kdeloach/workman/gh-pages/images/usage-vi… > > Tim. > > > On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 4:43 PM John Stoffel via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > wrote: > >> >>>>> "Frank" == Frank Sweetser via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: >> >> > (hey man, long time no see!) Bringing keyboards sounds like an >> > interesting idea. What would everyone think about showing off their >> > keyboards as a meeting topic? >> >> It's an interesting idea. I'd be happy bring one of mine at some >> point, but not until after then end of June. >> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >> Change Settings: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >> Web Forum/Archive: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/X2VGC… >> > > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/7KAJX… > -- - Frank

2 years, 4 months

Re: [Wlug] next week's installfest

by doug waud

Mike Peckar wrote: > > Hey Andy, > > I read with interest about your installfest on the listserve (I pile up > emails and pour through infrequently) and I'm sorry I missed it - I find > myself in need of an upgrade on one of my boxes. Hi I was at the installfest but, since we had an excess of installers, I decided to sit next to Chuck and suck up expertise by osmosis. The bottom line is that, back home the next morning, I was able to do a full network install of Red Hat 7.1 --- not bad for an amateur/newbie. The bottom line is that, if you have broadband access (I have a cable connection with the town cable company in Shrewsbury) you can suck the whole works off Chuck's mirror at WPI. You can get more details tomorrow night at the WLUG meeting or, if you are in a hurry, first ftp to 130.215.24.5 and move to /pub/mirrors/redhat/linux/7.1/os/i386/images and do a directory listing. You will see a file bootnet.img; download it. Then copy it to a good floppy. Specifically, dd if=/home/bootnet.img of=/dev/fd0 bs=1440 (but, if you, like I, do not trust floppies, precede this with /sbin/badblocks -v /dev/fd0 1440 to make sure floppy disk is ok) At this point you boot from that floppy and a Red Hat install screen comes up and you just follow the instructions for an upgrade. Just press enter at the initial boot prompt to get the option at the top of that first screen -- install/upgrade. When asked for installation method pick FTP. If your box normally uses DHCP pick that on the next screen, otherwise (my case) enter its IP dotted quad etc. When asked for the source, again use 130.215.24.5 and use /pub/mirrors/redhat/linux/7.1/os/i386 for the directory. (do not check use non-anonymous FTP) The Red Hat process will take over from there. You will see lots of activity on the ethernet card lights as the ramdisk stuff is downloaded. This tells you that you got things right up to this point! :-) A couple of screens later you get to pick the class of install. You would want Upgrade. The rest is downhill and pretty obvious, even to me. doug -- Douglas R Waud, Professor Emeritus -- Pharmacology University of Massachusetts Medical School Mailing address: 17 Lantern Lane, Shrewsbury, MA 01545-2006

24 years

RE:[SOLVED] [Wlug] Burning ISO's

by Simoncini, Matthew

Thanks everyone for their input and offers for burning 7.3 to CD's. I actually found what I needed with the existing burn software I have. It was under "Global Image or Other Image", in my case ISO is Other Image. -----Original Message----- From: David Goss [mailto:vze2bd6u@verizon.net] Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 9:30 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Burning ISO's i've got 73 on cd if you need a copy... but from what i've seen so far don't rush into anyuthing... 72 with a couple kernal upgrades runs just as well... assimilation is futile dave goss ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keller, Tim" <Tim.Keller(a)stratus.com> To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:50 PM Subject: RE: [Wlug] Burning ISO's > Your other solution might be to bribe a member of wlug to make a copy of > their 7.3 disks in exchange for a free beer after the meeting tonight. > > unfortunately, 1. I don't drink beer and 2. I won't be able to attend, > otherwise I'd make a copy for you... > > Later, > Tim. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Simoncini, Matthew [mailto:Matthew.Simoncini@bsci.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:55 PM > To: 'wlug(a)mail.wlug.org' > Subject: [Wlug] Burning ISO's > > > Hi everyone, > > I recently downloaded the iso's for Red Hat 7.3 and wanted to burn them to > CD so I can install the distro on my home PC. I've never burned iso's > before, so this is new to me. I have the following setup: > > Work PC running Windows 2000 w/ iso images for Red Hat 7.3 saved to hard > drive > CD Burner > Prassi PrimoCD Plus 2.0 burner software by Veritas > > From the little that I know, I understand that iso images need to be burned > in a certain way rather than just copied to a CD-ROM. Can anyone point me to > a site or a particular program for burning iso's? > > Thanks. > > Matthew > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

23 years, 4 months

Re: [EXT] The future of WLUG

by Anderson, Charles R

We also have an IRC channel: http://www.wlug.org/participate.html Internet Relay Chat Join the realtime chat on our IRC channel. Connect your IRC client to irc.freenode.net Join the #wlug-ma channel or join directly from this link: irc://irc.freenode.net/#wlug-ma. See more information about Freenode and join the chat from your web browser but maybe IRC is too old school--no one chats on it anymore. On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 04:03:14PM -0500, Joshua Stone via WLUG wrote: > Hey all, > > Last night's meeting was excellent, and I'd like say thanks again to > Tim for giving me a ride home! > > Last night's discussion gave me ideas of ways we could improve general > activity, increase attendence, and improve outreach efforts. Hosting a > meetup.com group would be certainly improve discoverability, and > getting in touch with WPI's computer science group would be great too. > > I think what a lot communities are doing nowadays is having a text chat > format for users who want to communicate more easily over the internet, > especially with mobile devices. As an example, there are Discord > servers for Fedora, Ubuntu, OpenSUSE, etc, and they have room sizes > generally in the hundreds or even well over a thousand. Even before > Discord they'd use IRC for providing support, posting updates, etc. > > Having a text chat of our own would certainly help improve > participation -- I think Matrix would be a good option here because it > has many nice features and has a fairly polished user experience: > > - Numerous clients available on desktop, mobile, and web ( > https://matrix.org/clients/ > - Persistent chat history > - Link previews > - Various bots to choose from for adding functionality ( > https://matrix.org/docs/projects/bots/ > - User moderation > - Server federation > - Self-hosting available, both client and server are completely FOSS > - File sharing > - Voice/video calls > > > I have a screenshot if anyone wants to see what a Matrix chat room > would look like: > > https://i.imgur.com/aVILcWB.png > > Or you can join the room I made: > > https://matrix.to/#/!EiTljkvagZDFKfQfFu:matrix.org?via=matrix.org > > Alteratively, if you have a Matrix client already: > > #wlug:matrix.org > > > > Any thoughts? > > > -Josh

5 years, 9 months

Re: [EXT] Re: [EXT] The future of WLUG

by Tim Keller

Chuck, It would appear great (okay, marginal) minds think alike! Tim. On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 4:19 PM Anderson, Charles R via WLUG < wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > The presenter's computer could be screencast onto the video stream by > using Open Broadcast Studio (OBS). We had a presentation on OBS awhile > back. > > On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 04:11:19PM -0500, Joshua Stone via WLUG wrote: > > That's excellent news! Sounds like the service is already paying for > itself. > > > > I'm not opposed to video uploads, so long as the video/audio production > is > > decent and the camera isn't in people's faces. I have a Sony video camera > > with native 4K and optical zoom, with a shotgun microphone attachment for > > capturing audio in front of the camera instead of the surrounding area. I > > also have a blue yeti if you want a good microphone for public speakers > to > > use. > > > > We could make this a bit fancier and less intrusive by having a > screencast > > of the speaker's computer to show slideshow material, terminal output, > etc, > > and have an omnidirectional microphone listening and syncing with the > > screencast. > > > > -Josh > > > > On Wed, Jan 15, 2020, 13:51 Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > I've gotten a couple of hits about people possibly showing up for the > next > > > WLUG meeting from meetup. That's cool! > > > > > > I went looking at the Boston Linux Users Group site and it's clear to > me > > > that we're really missing the boat with putting our meetings on > youtube, > > > well at least the ones with a definite presenter. > > > > > > Would people be freaked out about being on youtube? Is this something > that > > > people would be interested in? I've got a decent DSLR we could use to > take > > > video, but I don't want people to be uncomfortable. > > > > > > Tim. > > > > > > On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 1:41 PM <joshua.gage.stone(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >> Tim, > > >> > > >> Thank you very much for creating a meetup.com group for us! The UX > for > > >> finding future meetups and adding meetup dates to a calender is quite > good. > > >> Finding WLUG should also be fairly easy now when searching for "linux" > > >> within a 50 mile radius of Boston: > > >> > > >> > > >> > https://www.meetup.com/find/?allMeetups=false&keywords=linux&radius=50&user… > > >> > > >> I've noticed that some search strings will show LUGs with overlapping > > >> interests but not WLUG. I think adding more words like "FOSS", > "Android", > > >> "Libre", "Open Source", "Ubuntu", "Fedora", "OpenSUSE", "Arch Linux", > > >> "Unix", etc, to the related topics and/or What We're About section > should > > >> improve this. > > >> > > >> I've tried setting up a community over Slack but I think the steps > need > > >> to join was what made it too intrusive for new people -- take joining > the > > >> Rust language Slack server for example: > > >> > > >> https://rust-slack.herokuapp.com/ > > >> > > >> - Send an invite link to your email > > >> - Register with a name and password > > >> - Be greeted with prompts about whether to send notifications > > >> - Open the #general channel > > >> > > >> And this has to be repeated for joining every community that has their > > >> own Slack server, or at least this has been my experience so far. I > think > > >> Slack has cemented itself as more of a means for teams to collaborate > on a > > >> project, not so much for casual users who want to jump right into a > new > > >> chat. > > >> > > >> Matrix only needs to register a username and password (email is > optional) > > >> on the server you're on, and once that's done you can join any number > of > > >> channels on that server. This is much closer to the UX of IRC, and > it's > > >> still superior in some ways because there's no fiddling with choosing > a > > >> specific authentication method like SASL and/or authenticating with > nickserv > > >> > > >> I think in general Matrix has more mindshare amongst Linux users as a > > >> modern alternative to IRC, which I think is worth considering when > > >> comparing frequency of posts on Reddit: > > >> > > >> > > >> > https://old.reddit.com/r/linux/search?q=matrix&restrict_sr=on&sort=relevanc… > > >> > > >> -Josh > > >> > > >> On Sat, 2020-01-11 at 22:59 -0500, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote: > > >> > > >> This morning I went out and created a meetup group for WLUG: > > >> https://www.meetup.com/Worcester-Linux-Users-Group and paid for six > > >> months. Feel free to go and join up if you'd like. > > >> > > >> The matrix stuff is cool, I cut my teeth on IRC so I'm always partial > to > > >> the old school but I also understand that eventually we'll want a > slack > > >> channel as well maybe. > > >> > > >> Tim. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 4:07 PM Anderson, Charles R via WLUG < > > >> wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > > >> > > >> We also have an IRC channel: > > >> > > >> http://www.wlug.org/participate.html > > >> > > >> Internet Relay Chat > > >> > > >> Join the realtime chat on our IRC channel. > > >> > > >> Connect your IRC client to irc.freenode.net > > >> Join the #wlug-ma channel or join directly from this link: irc:// > > >> irc.freenode.net/#wlug-ma. > > >> See more information about Freenode and join the chat from your > web > > >> browser > > >> > > >> but maybe IRC is too old school--no one chats on it anymore. > > >> > > >> On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 04:03:14PM -0500, Joshua Stone via WLUG wrote: > > >> > Hey all, > > >> > > > >> > Last night's meeting was excellent, and I'd like say thanks again to > > >> > Tim for giving me a ride home! > > >> > > > >> > Last night's discussion gave me ideas of ways we could improve > general > > >> > activity, increase attendence, and improve outreach efforts. > Hosting a > > >> > meetup.com group would be certainly improve discoverability, and > > >> > getting in touch with WPI's computer science group would be great > too. > > >> > > > >> > I think what a lot communities are doing nowadays is having a text > chat > > >> > format for users who want to communicate more easily over the > internet, > > >> > especially with mobile devices. As an example, there are Discord > > >> > servers for Fedora, Ubuntu, OpenSUSE, etc, and they have room sizes > > >> > generally in the hundreds or even well over a thousand. Even before > > >> > Discord they'd use IRC for providing support, posting updates, etc. > > >> > > > >> > Having a text chat of our own would certainly help improve > > >> > participation -- I think Matrix would be a good option here because > it > > >> > has many nice features and has a fairly polished user experience: > > >> > > > >> > - Numerous clients available on desktop, mobile, and web ( > > >> > https://matrix.org/clients/ > > >> > - Persistent chat history > > >> > - Link previews > > >> > - Various bots to choose from for adding functionality ( > > >> > https://matrix.org/docs/projects/bots/ > > >> > - User moderation > > >> > - Server federation > > >> > - Self-hosting available, both client and server are completely FOSS > > >> > - File sharing > > >> > - Voice/video calls > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > I have a screenshot if anyone wants to see what a Matrix chat room > > >> > would look like: > > >> > > > >> > https://i.imgur.com/aVILcWB.png > > >> > > > >> > Or you can join the room I made: > > >> > > > >> > https://matrix.to/#/!EiTljkvagZDFKfQfFu:matrix.org?via=matrix.org > > >> > > > >> > Alteratively, if you have a Matrix client already: > > >> > > > >> > #wlug:matrix.org > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Any thoughts? > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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