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Re: [Wlug] Instant Messaging Software

by Theo Van Dinter

On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 01:37:25PM -0500, Gary Hanley wrote: > Ha. I still, for the life of me, have not seen the value-added benefit of > IM over a good old-fashioned telephone or conference call. Just a few reasons from my POV: 1) phones aren't available everywhere, and cell phone coverage is spotty/dead in lots of areas. (for example, inside my company's colo facility...) 2) it's quick and easy if you're already online. need to shoot a command to someone or ask a quick 5 second question? it'll take me longer to find/remember/dial their phone number than it is to goto my IM "buddy" listing and type it. 3) unless you record it, there's no trail of conversations on the phone. I "record" all IM conversations that I have -- really excellent to remember little snippets of information. as an example, I opened a hardware case with IBM the other day, but a coworker was going to be the contact, so I IMed the case # to him. The next day, I needed to call IBM about the case... Without having the conversation "recorded", I'd have had no way to know what the case # was (didn't write it down, and the coworker was unavailable). I've also done this type of thing with conversations I had over a year ago. (this is the same reason I pretty much save all email I send/receive btw...) 4) IM is good for multiple short conversations throughout the day -- my wife/friend/coworker can IM me in the morning, and I can just keep the window open for any thoughts/questions/etc throughout the day. 5) If I'm not around, but someone IMs me a question, I'll see it when I get back to my computer and can respond directly. If someone calls me (see #6 below) I'd either have to tell them to call me back later when I'm at my computer, or they'd leave me voice mail and I'd have to go through the bother of getting the VM then calling back, etc, etc. 6) I can walk away from my IM window and get lunch or something -- if people knew my cell phone number, I'd have yet another electronic leash. 7) I pay for phone calls, I don't pay for IM. If I'm using my home phone (pay per call + per minute) or my cell phone (pay per minute), that costs me money that I normally wouldn't have to pay... Not to mention the fact that sometimes you want to talk to people who aren't local which costs more money. However, I'm already paying for bandwidth no matter how much I use. 8) I usually type more "correctly" than I talk. 9) I spend a lot of time working on open source software (one program specifically), and sometimes need to converse with other developers on the project. I'm here in MA, some are in CA, some in Canada, some in Germany, etc... It's easier to IM than setup a multi-country conference call. 10) if you're on the phone and want to talk to someone else either about the call or something different, then you'd have to hang up and call someone else, or get multiple phones, or ... an example: I was on a con call with several of the above mentioned open source developers, and the legal department of a large company we're conversing with -- but we (developers) wanted to chat during the call without having the other group overhear, so we had an IM chat session going in the background. 11) I don't like using the phone. :P I don't think IM is a replace-all for phones or in-person meetings, but it does better handle/allow a lot of communications in a more efficient manner. IMHO. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "... although it's better if you call it an osculating circle because nobody knows what it means. Except those smarty-pants math professors..." - Prof. Farr

20 years, 5 months

Re: Dec meeting.. not the 14th! 21st or 28th?

by Althea Shaheen

What I do is have the wireguard clients be on a different subnet than my other hosts, all behind the firewall. Then, in pfsense I made wireguard an interface like any other, and that allows me to make firewall policies, such as letting wireguard clients only to my DNS servers on port 53, or my web servers on 443. Also, since each wireguard client has a static IP reserved, I can make my phone access more than my cloud server, since I trust the security of my phone a tad more (but only a tad). For routing, I have the config for the clients either as 0.0.0.0/0 to send all traffic over the tunnel, or my private networks only for the split tunnel, and let the firewall policy handle it from there. So, you could certainly make it so that your VPS connects to your wireguard endpoint, and then send your backup traffic to it's client IP if you are going outbound to the VPS, and block the VPS from your internal network, or vice versa just open up the port you need to the host you need from the VPS to internal. Hope this helps On Thu, Dec 14, 2023, at 12:42, John Stoffel wrote: >>>>>> "Althea" == Althea Shaheen via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > >> I run it on my pfSense firewall, but pivpn is also a great option if >> you'd rather port forward to a different device. > > Do you have it so that if you have multiple internal devices behind > your firewall, your external client can reach all those devices? > > I'ev been playing, but I'm sure I'm mssing something. For example: > > Internal network: 192.168.1.0/24 > host A 192.168.1.10/32 > host B 192.168.1.20/32 > > Firewall: 192.168.1.254 > WG: 192.168.200.0/24 > > Client: 200.150.100.50 (made up) > > > Ideally I'd like my client to be able to access host A or B from the > road using the WG tunnel. Would I need to assign WG addresses to > these hosts? Or would I just rounte 192.168.1.0/24 via wg0 on the > client? > > That's the trouble I'm having. > > I also want to setup a Wireguard tunnel between home and my VPS in the > cloud to make backups easier and simple. I could just do an SSH > tunnel, but I'd prefer not since it's a pain for this one application > to setup. > > So my VPS has both it's public IP, and then I have a WireGuard IP and > route setup so that I can reach into the home network. And possibly > also allow connections to the VPS from other clients as well. Very > mesh like. > > John > > > > >> On Wed, Dec 13, 2023, at 16:30, John Stoffel wrote: >>>>>>>> "Althea" == Althea Shaheen via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: >>> >>> I've been busy, so I'm coming back to this late... >>> >>>> I use a wireguard VPN on my phone anytime I leave my house, mainly >>>> for ad blocking. I run pi-hole at home to block ads network wide, >>>> and when I leave wifi, my phone automatically joins the VPN at home >>>> and uses the same pi-hole servers for DNS. Internet traffic is still >>>> directly through my carrier (so split tunnel) but my DNS is hidden >>>> from them and ad free! >>> >>> Do you run wireguard on your firewall or do you pass it inside into a >>> base host? >>> >>>> -thea >>> >>>> On Sat, Dec 9, 2023, at 03:54, Jon "maddog" Hall via WLUG wrote: >>> >>>>> However, they still rely on the trust in the ownership/VPN service country's laws and >>>> policies. >>>>> A VPN service is effectively a 'man in the middle'. >>>> This is why everyone should train their mother to offer a secure ISP/VPN service. >>>> "Mom's VPN: Do you trust your Mom?" >>>> md >>> >>>> On Fri, Dec 8, 2023 at 11:44 AM Kevin Stratton via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: >>> >>>> VPN services are a good tool for privacy. However, they they still rely >>>> on the trust in the ownership/VPN service country's laws and policies. >>>> A VPN service is effectively a 'man in the middle'. >>> >>>> On 12/8/2023 3:13 AM, Robert Schwein via WLUG wrote: >>>>> >>>>> You've pretty much hit the high points Chuck. From my own experience >>>>> when going overseas if I'm able to VPN to the country I'm going to, >>>>> the rental car reservation is considerably less in cost to reserve >>>>> that car than if I reserved it from state side. I'm assuming there is >>>>> a difference between a poor native and a rich American. >>>>> >>>>> Bob >>>>> >>>>> On 12/8/2023 12:56 AM, Chuck Anderson via WLUG wrote: >>>>>> On Thu, Dec 07, 2023 at 09:08:00PM -0500, Doug Mildram via WLUG wrote: >>>>>> So, maybe or maybe not, that's the kind of VPN I suspect they're selling, >>>>>> but I don't see the value for normal folks....or maybe anyone. (educate >>>>>> me!) >>>>>> Unless their hosted-server-world-route network security is a win. >>>>>> Thanks for listening, and my thursday's look better than usual this month, >>>>>> so hoping for WLUG virtually dec 14. -doug >>>>>> Yes. Those "modern" VPNs are used for many reasons. Here are a couple: >>>>>> >>>>>> - To appear to servers/services that you are physically located in a >>>>>> different geographical area. This can help you bypass >>>>>> geographically restricted content, such as watching sports programs >>>>>> that content owners don't want you to see based on where you live >>>>>> (local sports broadcast blackouts). Or trick hotels into giving you >>>>>> a better price--yes, hotels can hike the rates they present to you >>>>>> if they think you are nearby--assuming you need last-minute >>>>>> accomodations while you are away on vacation. >>>>>> >>>>>> - To hide your real IP address from servers and/or hide your browsing >>>>>> from intermediaries (your ISP for example) for privacy. This could >>>>>> be so you can avoid being tracked and having your browsing habits >>>>>> sold to advertisers (something your ISP can easily do--SSL does not >>>>>> hide DNS queries although that is changing with the availability of >>>>>> DNS-over-HTTPS and similar), to hide from authorities/copyright >>>>>> enforcers, or for life-and-death reasons (hide from unfriendly >>>>>> governments.) >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> WLUG mailing list --wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >>>>>> To unsubscribe send an email towlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >>>>>> Create Account:https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >>>>>> Change Settings:https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >>>>>> Web Forum/Archive: >>>> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/ZC4W3… >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >>>>> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >>>>> Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >>>>> Web Forum/Archive: >>>> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/TI4DE… >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >>>> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >>>> Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >>>> Web Forum/Archive: >>>> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/2OD7Q… >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >>>> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >>>> Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >>>> Web Forum/Archive: >>>> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/E6KIC… >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >>>> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >>>> Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >>>> Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/532CN… >> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >> Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >> Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/NK7RY…

9 months

Re: [Wlug] Fw: RE: show

by Matthew Kwiatkowski

I think this sounds like it's turning into an interesting idea. I would be willing to help out as a cameraman or something behind the scenes, and I do have a laptop with video out, but I would need a ride from campus to the studio. I will also be home on break the week of the 21st, so I can't make that night. -Matthew Kwiatkowski On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 13:39, Yury I Vashugin wrote: > tim, > it seems like we don't have enough people to run the show. maybe > different date and time would be more appropriate for people(depending, > of course, on the studio availability)... > first, we need people to produce the show. it's a commitment of half an > hour ones? a month.(could be ones in two months) is there anyone who > would like to join the venture? > second, we need a qualified show host who will lead the show and > interview guests. i'm a new to linux and i would not dare to discuss it > with my expertize. > third, there is little problem with scan converter which can be replaced > by a notebook with a video output. > a tape of the show will be available immediately after the show and can > be broadcast on any channel(depending on the amount of money, sponsorship > etc; public access channels are free). also it's a good learning tool > which can be multiplied and offered to the public. i still remember a > hot discussion on wlug about introducing linux in public schools. i was > astonished to see how college students buy c compilers for windows to do > their homework for unix/c class. isn't it something? > they know about linux but, o boy, they're scared of it!!!(wow, wow- i'm > not talking about wpi students) > good point was brought by goug. we need to know what audience we are > going to target and where. if we start the show with linux introduction > and discuss the difference between linux and commonly used operating > systems, to get people intrigued, and continuously refer people to 'that > show' then they'll know the connection, how to obtain previous > educational tapes etc. > yury > ps keep forgeting to indicate the studio location- shewsbury media > connection, parker rd. > > > On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 00:40:51 -0400 Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> > writes: > > On Tuesday 14 October 2003 12:55 pm, Yury I Vashugin wrote: > > > hi, everyone. > > > since we talked about producing an educational show about linux > > and > > > putting it 'in-the-air' at the last wlug meeting and i saw a very > > > enthusiastic response so i've reserved the studio for oct.21(see > > below). > > > there's a problem with a converter but i'm sure we can find a > > laptop with > > > a video output. > > > > HI everybody, > > > > I'm still quite enthusiastic about this opportunity, but > > unfortunately I > > cannot make it on October 21st (Tuesday is generally a bad night for > > me). I > > will be looking forward to reading the e-mails from people who do > > make it on > > that date. > > > > Please keep us posted! > > > > Andy > > > > -- > > Andy Stewart, Founder > > Worcester Linux Users' Group > > Worcester, MA USA > > http://www.wlug.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! > Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

20 years, 11 months

Re: [Wlug] linux networking question (reformatted for readability)

by Brad

On Sat, Feb 07, 2015 at 04:40:36PM -0500, Frank Sweetser wrote: > This is just a rough guess, but did you ever check on the state tables > in your openbsd firewall? > I did not check the state tables in the OpenBSD firewall. I figured since it had just been forcefully reboot the state tables were coherent. > In your setup you have state distributed > amongst your clients, your firewall, and you NAT gateway, and unless > all three are in sync you can easily get the kind of possessed network > behavior you describe. > To properly exorcize should i pour holy-water over the routers? I always figured some king of black magic was involved in routing. Is a bridged-firewall not a good idea in practice because it adds another layer between the internat and the intranet, and could get out of sync? Thanks for the ideas, - brad > On February 7, 2015 3:20:15 PM EST, Brad <bkn(a)ithryn.net> wrote: > >(i appologize for the previous message that i completely unreadable.) > > > >Dear W-LUGgers, > > > >I had some strange network related behavior that left me baffled and i > >wanted > >to hear some theories from more experienced network admins. > > > >The network layout is the following. The network is pretty simple, > >external > >traffic passes through a bridged-firewall (OpenBSD, my choice) into an > >OS X > >server (not my choice) which handles NAT/DHCP/DNS et al., and all the > >office > >computers are dhcp clients to the OS X server. The trouble machines are > >linux > >(ubuntu) desktop clients. > > > >The scenario is the following. I was doing work on the bridged firewall > >(OpenBSD) and somehow caused it to kernel panic, oopsie! So the > >bridged-firewall went down thus no-one had internet access, Dou! i > >quickly > >bounced the machine. It came back on-line and clients were able to > >access the > >internet, huzzah! But, the strange behavior was in two linux machines > >within > >the network that were not able to access some external IPs. My linux > >desktop > >could not access 8.8.8.8, when pinging, i could see an arp who-has > >request > >originating from my machine, i could see the packet come into the OS X > >server. > >But the request always went unanswered. The same behavior happened to > >another > >linux desktop but with 192.48.178.134 (sgi.com) My desktop could ping > >sgi.com. > >So each linux desktop had *different* unreachable IPs. The rest of the > >internet > >was reachable. I tried clearing the arp-cache on the OS X server, then > >clearing > >the NAT state tables, then I rebooted the OS X server, none solved the > >problem. > >I finally renewed the dhcp lease on my linux desktop machine and that > >allowed > >the ping to complete. > > > >What would case this behavior? Could it be stale arp-cache on the linux > >machine? ( I *should* have tried to clear the arp-cache on the linux > >machine > >before i renewed the dhcp lease, but i didn’t think of that until after > >the > >fact.) The linux machine was sending out arp who-has requests so would > >a stale > >cache even matter? Why would no one answer the arp requests? I am not > >an expert > >network admin (its just a side job since the company is only 15 > >people). I > >don’t expect to get a resolution but i’m interested to hear any > >theories. > > > >Thanks and cheers, — brad > > > >PS. As a worcester transplant to boston, i am really jealous i don’t > >live > >closer to attend meetings. The topics of late sound outstanding. > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Wlug mailing list > >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

9 years, 7 months

Re: [Wlug] Release cycle for RHEL / CentOS 6

by Eric Martin

Hi John, The function requested / required was subprocess.check_output. My developer used jshints to do a lint type syntax check on code in a pre-commit hook. With the ius repository, this wasn't a big deal at all. I'm actually surprised that RHEL / CentOS don't support python2.7 since it's been out for 3 years. Hope that helps, let me know if you were looking for more. On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 9:15 AM, John Stoffel <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: > > Just a quick question, but what feature of Python 2.7 did the hook > depend on and could it have been re-written to only need Python 2.6 > instead? Seems like a lot of work, and now a bunch more dependencies > and hacks to rebuild this system when/if it dies, just to make a > developer happy. Not saying this is bad... but maybe saying that core > production systems should *try* to stay as simple as possible. > > And no, I don't always follow my own advice here. Just trying to get > you to give us more info on your process here, since I think it's a > good example of the balance we all have to try and achieve in our > $WORK. > > John > > > Eric> Thank you for your prompt replies! Karl, the iuscommunity repo is > exactly > Eric> what I needed. Also, it has some other packages that I've had to > install > Eric> directly so this is even better! thanks guys, see you next meeting. > > > Eric> On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Karl Hiramoto <karl(a)hiramoto.org> > wrote: > > >> On 06/27/2013 03:47 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > >> > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >> Hash: SHA1 > >> > >> On 06/27/2013 09:34 AM, Eric Martin wrote: > >> > >> Hi All, > >> > >> The subversion server at my office is on a CentOS 6 server, and a > software > >> developer wrote a hook in python for it. The hook requires python 2.7, > >> but CentOS 6 only has 2.6.6 (python-2.6.6-36.el6 to be exact). > >> > >> I grabbed python-2.7.2-5.2.fc16.src.rpm from Fedora 16 and am trying to > >> roll my own via instructions I found on the CentOS wiki. All is good > >> except that it requires db4.8, and that's not out for RHEL6 either. > >> > >> >From where I stand, it looks like my options are: 1) wait this out > until > >> either Python or a dependency are pushed up, but when is that? 2) > rebuild > >> this package with the deps, but I'm not quite sure how to roll a -devel > >> package 3) roll my own package from scratch 4) install python 2.7 in an > >> alternate location and point to it for this script > >> > >> Since this is a production server, I'd rather no do any hacks on this. > >> Does anybody know how the release schedule works, or have any other > >> advice? > >> > >> Thanks in advance, -- Eric Martin > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >> > >> Look at Software Collections. Not sure if they have python2.7 yet > though. > >> > https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Developer_Toolse… > >> > >> > >> Some SRPMS of python 2.7 > >> > >> http://dl.iuscommunity.org/pub/ius/stable/CentOS/6/SRPMS/repoview/ > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wlug mailing list > >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >> > >> > > > Eric> -- > Eric> Eric Martin > > Eric> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Eric> _______________________________________________ > Eric> Wlug mailing list > Eric> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Eric> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- Eric Martin

11 years, 2 months

Re: Hierarchical note taking, Joplin, Trilium, browser extensions, etc..

by soup

In that vein, there's vimwiki https://github.com/vimwiki/vimwiki a markup DSL and some vimscript, works, plaintext so still grepable (I'd suggest the_silver_searcher over grep these days), will export to HTML - soup On Tue, May 21, 2024 at 3:26 PM John Stoffel via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > >>>>> "Tim" == Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > > > Sadly no. I've looked at DokuWiki a couple of times. > > I've *run* dokuwiki and mediawiki for $WORK a couple of times... but > never used them in anger either. > > > The problem is this. I'm lazy. The lowest barrier to entry is simply > > a directory called "Notes" with a bunch of text files. Being text > > and using a unix-like system, I've got tools like grep to find > > stuff. > > Me too, I have *tons* of files will all kinds of notes and ideas. > Works great from a GUI login, and also works from an SSH text only > connection as well. > > > I figure the next lowest thing is some program that lets me take > > notes that I can then organize into some index and search against it > > as well. Beyond that now it becomes hosted somewhere, etc. > > I keep wanting to learn 'org-mode' in emacs. But I never get there. > > What I do use is a little header lines in emacs and a setup where it > updates the date whenver I save the file. This way I know when I last > edited the file (inside emacs at least) which is a great way to keep > on top of things. > > I'd be happy to share with what I do in emacs. > > John > > > > On Fri, May 17, 2024 at 10:35 AM Mike Peckar <mpeckar(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hey Tim, > > > I might have missed it, but I'm curious if you came to any > conclusions about these tools. > > > thanks, > > Mike > > > On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 9:31 PM Tim Keller via WLUG < > wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > > > At last night's meeting, a new attendee brought up a problem she > was having and one of the > > solutions that got bandied about was Joplin. > > > After doing some research, this might be my new note taking app. > > Another very interesting FOSS tool out there is called "Trilium" > > https://github.com/zadam/trilium > > > As much as I like google's keep.. I'm fully aware that google > capable of just pulling the > > rug out from under me in a moment's notice. > > > I've spun up U22.04.3 server and I'm going to tinker with Joplin > and possibly Trilium and > > let people know what I think of them. > > > Tim. > > > -- > > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to > their constituents as > > "consumers". > > _______________________________________________ > > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > > Web Forum/Archive: > > > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/UDTAP… > > > -- > > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > > _______________________________________________ > > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/K6235… > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/RXUAL… >

3 months, 3 weeks

Re: [Wlug] Progress and success

by Tim Keller

Marie, For capture software there's a couple of options out there. I've got a fire wire card in my machine so I've been using "Kino" to capture the raw DV off of my camcorder and it works great. It's a basic but functional NLE that supports encoding to mpeg2. I don't have any recommendations for business plan software, though I'm not quite sure what a business plan would look like, I thought it was just a regular document? As for RealPlayer, I haven't touched it in a couple of years, but POS has never really worked that well for me. They came out with the helixplayer, but it was worse than Realplayer! I do listen to a couple of stations via shoutcast (using xmms, which is Linuxes version of winamp) but those tend to be rather hit or miss. Hope that helps! Tim. On 2/22/06, Marie I MacDonald <mimsresearch(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Greetings all, > > I thought I'd write and update you on my newbie experience with Linux > et. al. To refresh your memory, my old laptop died just as I had been > given a new Linux box and just before the Spring semester had started. I > really was feeling stressed. But here are some high points of the past > month: > > * Novell distro installed (and reinstalled (twice!) after a > glitch) and updated without a hitch. > * Evolution is now my email client of choice for two reasons: I > couldn't figure out how to install Thunderbird and I wanted to > sync my Palm to something. > * I'm successfully popping all my Gmail and myrealbox accounts (13 > total). I've never seen my filters run so fast (for junk and > legit mail). > * Palm Zire 21 now works beautifully with Evolution. I keep it > simple and don't need more than the personal calendar. > * Open Office installed and updated. I'm using 2.0.1.3 and have > begun using Impress to create a presentation for school. > * I have taken advantage of the desktop functions, using five work > spaces and putting buttons on the tool bars. I love how smoothly > my desktop works and allows me new workspaces. > * Novell client for Linux working beautifully to connect me to the > server upstairs (thanks Bob!) > * I've been playing around with the GIMP image editor and in my > opinion it is as robust as Photoshop (which I know very well). > * I have successfully completed all the Novell Linux Desktop 9 > Learning Center modules. The training was good and I would > recommend it for new users. > * I am successfully running Music Player and copying my CDs to the > network. I can now burn a CD/DVD. > > Here are my observations/complaints: > > * While I've used both YaST and Red Carpet to install programs, > I'd like to see something developed to click and run > installation programs, much like the .exe files most are used > to. Coming from that environment into a Linux environment, this > is critical. If you want to make Linux more attractive for > desktop users, software installation has to be easier. The > average office user *ME* does not know how to work with code and > such to install programs. > * I'm still trying to find video capture and editing software. Any > recommendations? > * Now I also need software to create a business plan. Any > recommendations? > * I would love to listen to radio station web streams. I live in > the boonies and get no radio reception. I do have RealPlayer on > this but so far it hasn't worked for grabbing a radio web > stream. I miss my Boston radio stations. > > Well, that's all I can think of for now. Oh, I did meet a wonderful > teenager from Worcester who is very knowledgeable about Linux. His name > is Stephen and I just wanted to send a shout out to him. I urged him to > joint WLUG--he's a gem. > > Finally, I appreciate everyone here for all the marvelous advice, > encouragement and patience. I consider it an honor to be part of your > group. Thanks for letting me in! > > All my best, > Marie > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- I am leary of the allegiances of any politicians who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

18 years, 6 months

Re: [EXT] The future of WLUG

by joshua.gage.stone＠gmail.com

I think IRC would've been a great choice about a decade ago, but it seems to have fallen out of favor as newer chat services have been added. It's less that IRC is old per se, rather virtually nothing has been done to improve the UX. IRC has some very unique problems where you have to actively configure something as simple as the port number to connect with and whether to enable TLS while other services have standardized on this long ago so users don't have to think about that. I remember when IRC was very popular among the communities I frequented years ago, but outside of FOSS projects many of these channels are now dead because people have moved onto Discord, Matrix, Telegram, etc. I think part of this can also be attributed to the advent of mobile, as IRC clients are usually painful on a phone where you have to type commands on a touchscreen. I also have found IRC to be blocked on some networks, while Matrix served over HTTPS is very firewall-friendly. As of 2020, there are still many features that're missing because IRC essentially pushes implementation onto the client and/or need a bouncer to get features you'd get for free in other services. You practically need a personal cloud if you want to be able to have persistent chat history and/or avoid flooding a channel with disconnect messages especially if you're on a mobile device that can't maintain an active connection at all times. You also need a bot if you want any kind of features like link previews. -Josh On Fri, 2020-01-10 at 21:07 +0000, Anderson, Charles R via WLUG wrote: > We also have an IRC channel: > > http://www.wlug.org/participate.html > > Internet Relay Chat > > Join the realtime chat on our IRC channel. > > Connect your IRC client to irc.freenode.net > Join the #wlug-ma channel or join directly from this link: > irc://irc.freenode.net/#wlug-ma. > See more information about Freenode and join the chat from your > web browser > > but maybe IRC is too old school--no one chats on it anymore. > > On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 04:03:14PM -0500, Joshua Stone via WLUG > wrote: > > Hey all, > > > > Last night's meeting was excellent, and I'd like say thanks again > > to > > Tim for giving me a ride home! > > > > Last night's discussion gave me ideas of ways we could improve > > general > > activity, increase attendence, and improve outreach efforts. > > Hosting a > > meetup.com group would be certainly improve discoverability, and > > getting in touch with WPI's computer science group would be great > > too. > > > > I think what a lot communities are doing nowadays is having a text > > chat > > format for users who want to communicate more easily over the > > internet, > > especially with mobile devices. As an example, there are Discord > > servers for Fedora, Ubuntu, OpenSUSE, etc, and they have room sizes > > generally in the hundreds or even well over a thousand. Even before > > Discord they'd use IRC for providing support, posting updates, etc. > > > > Having a text chat of our own would certainly help improve > > participation -- I think Matrix would be a good option here because > > it > > has many nice features and has a fairly polished user experience: > > > > - Numerous clients available on desktop, mobile, and web ( > > https://matrix.org/clients/ > > - Persistent chat history > > - Link previews > > - Various bots to choose from for adding functionality ( > > https://matrix.org/docs/projects/bots/ > > - User moderation > > - Server federation > > - Self-hosting available, both client and server are completely > > FOSS > > - File sharing > > - Voice/video calls > > > > > > I have a screenshot if anyone wants to see what a Matrix chat room > > would look like: > > > > https://i.imgur.com/aVILcWB.png > > > > Or you can join the room I made: > > > > https://matrix.to/#/!EiTljkvagZDFKfQfFu:matrix.org?via=matrix.org > > > > Alteratively, if you have a Matrix client already: > > > > #wlug:matrix.org > > > > > > > > Any thoughts? > > > > > > -Josh > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org

4 years, 8 months

RE: [Wlug] Fw: RE: show

by Keller, Tim

Well, I kind of took it on this tact. My wife really doesn't care about linux, nor windows. When she sits down in front of the computer, she just wants it to work as expected. Past that, she plays a few games, but mainly it revolves around surfing the web, reading email, etc. With that said, I think that the argument for linux has to be made on a couple fronts. Firstly, cost and freedom. Explain to people why linux is a better choice than the perceived "free" copy of windows that came with their computer. I think we should definitely explain the microsoft tax. Second, security. Make it a point of explaining that linux is impervious to the many worms and viruses that are running around the internet. Though we should also caution people that a poorly configured linux box is just as bad (if not worse) than an bare unpatched windows machine. Past that, we should talk to the availability of software for linux. Later, Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Gregory Avedissian [mailto:avedis@rcn.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 5:38 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Fw: RE: show Makes sense to me, Tim. Easy replacement is the selling point, and in some ways it's been the stumbling block to my converting entirely to linux. I still use Windows for a couple of tasks that either can't be done in linux (yet) or I haven't figured them out in linux yet (unsupported scanner). Show people that they can do the things they need to do with a minimal amount of effort and without having to pay microsoft, and there will be plenty of converts. Most of the things that most people do with their computers can now be done in linux without having to read a manual, and people need to know that. Greg Keller, Tim wrote: > Yury, > > You can count me in. I also know my way around a TV production studio. > > We had talked about doing an introduction to linux. As an aside to that I > was thinking that possibly we could do a show on equivalent pieces of > software on the linux side of things that could replace (perceived) missing > functionality. This would include stuff like Evolution, Mozilla, GnuCash, > OpenOffice, mplayer, xmms, etc. > > What do people think? > > Thanks, > Tim. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Yury I Vashugin [mailto:vashugins@juno.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 12:56 PM > To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > Cc: wlug(a)wlug.org > Subject: [Wlug] Fw: RE: show > > > hi, everyone. > since we talked about producing an educational show about linux and > putting it 'in-the-air' at the last wlug meeting and i saw a very > enthusiastic response so i've reserved the studio for oct.21(see below). > there's a problem with a converter but i'm sure we can find a laptop with > a video output. > for the show we need two cameramen(anyone can do that; very simple duties > and can be learned within 3-5 min), a show host and guests. > please, bring any suggestions or/and recommendations. thanks. > yury > > --------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Marc Serra <mserra(a)ci.shrewsbury.ma.us> > To: 'Yury I Vashugin' <vashugins(a)juno.com> > Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 13:42:56 -0400 > Subject: RE: show > Message-ID: <A7F72312FF5DB348BE2D037A6FE5F1C1407EC2@selpnt2> > > Yes. > > Does anybody in the group have access to a scan converter or can you use > a > computer with a video card output? Since we spoke about it, our last scan > converter was put into service to be used on one of our channel's for our > bulletin board. For you to use it, we would have to take a channel off > the > air. I know that a lot of laptops have video out. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Yury I Vashugin [mailto:vashugins@juno.com] > Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 11:48 AM > To: mserra(a)ci.shrewsbury.ma.us > Subject: show > > > marc, > can i reserve the studio for half-an-hour show on tuesday, october 21 at > 6:30 (actually it will not be a show; just a preliminary stuff- what > light, what background, what settings we want for 'linux show', to try a > scanner converter etc)? > yury > > ________________________________________________________________ > The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! > Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

20 years, 11 months

Re: Dec meeting.. not the 14th! 21st or 28th?

by Tim Keller

That is cool that pfSense can do wireguard! On Thu, Dec 14, 2023 at 7:32 PM Althea Shaheen via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > What I do is have the wireguard clients be on a different subnet than my > other hosts, all behind the firewall. Then, in pfsense I made wireguard an > interface like any other, and that allows me to make firewall policies, > such as letting wireguard clients only to my DNS servers on port 53, or my > web servers on 443. Also, since each wireguard client has a static IP > reserved, I can make my phone access more than my cloud server, since I > trust the security of my phone a tad more (but only a tad). > > For routing, I have the config for the clients either as 0.0.0.0/0 to > send all traffic over the tunnel, or my private networks only for the split > tunnel, and let the firewall policy handle it from there. > > So, you could certainly make it so that your VPS connects to your > wireguard endpoint, and then send your backup traffic to it's client IP if > you are going outbound to the VPS, and block the VPS from your internal > network, or vice versa just open up the port you need to the host you need > from the VPS to internal. > > Hope this helps > > On Thu, Dec 14, 2023, at 12:42, John Stoffel wrote: > >>>>>> "Althea" == Althea Shaheen via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > > > >> I run it on my pfSense firewall, but pivpn is also a great option if > >> you'd rather port forward to a different device. > > > > Do you have it so that if you have multiple internal devices behind > > your firewall, your external client can reach all those devices? > > > > I'ev been playing, but I'm sure I'm mssing something. For example: > > > > Internal network: 192.168.1.0/24 > > host A 192.168.1.10/32 > > host B 192.168.1.20/32 > > > > Firewall: 192.168.1.254 > > WG: 192.168.200.0/24 > > > > Client: 200.150.100.50 (made up) > > > > > > Ideally I'd like my client to be able to access host A or B from the > > road using the WG tunnel. Would I need to assign WG addresses to > > these hosts? Or would I just rounte 192.168.1.0/24 via wg0 on the > > client? > > > > That's the trouble I'm having. > > > > I also want to setup a Wireguard tunnel between home and my VPS in the > > cloud to make backups easier and simple. I could just do an SSH > > tunnel, but I'd prefer not since it's a pain for this one application > > to setup. > > > > So my VPS has both it's public IP, and then I have a WireGuard IP and > > route setup so that I can reach into the home network. And possibly > > also allow connections to the VPS from other clients as well. Very > > mesh like. > > > > John > > > > > > > > > >> On Wed, Dec 13, 2023, at 16:30, John Stoffel wrote: > >>>>>>>> "Althea" == Althea Shaheen via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: > >>> > >>> I've been busy, so I'm coming back to this late... > >>> > >>>> I use a wireguard VPN on my phone anytime I leave my house, mainly > >>>> for ad blocking. I run pi-hole at home to block ads network wide, > >>>> and when I leave wifi, my phone automatically joins the VPN at home > >>>> and uses the same pi-hole servers for DNS. Internet traffic is still > >>>> directly through my carrier (so split tunnel) but my DNS is hidden > >>>> from them and ad free! > >>> > >>> Do you run wireguard on your firewall or do you pass it inside into a > >>> base host? > >>> > >>>> -thea > >>> > >>>> On Sat, Dec 9, 2023, at 03:54, Jon "maddog" Hall via WLUG wrote: > >>> > >>>>> However, they still rely on the trust in the ownership/VPN service > country's laws and > >>>> policies. > >>>>> A VPN service is effectively a 'man in the middle'. > >>>> This is why everyone should train their mother to offer a secure > ISP/VPN service. > >>>> "Mom's VPN: Do you trust your Mom?" > >>>> md > >>> > >>>> On Fri, Dec 8, 2023 at 11:44 AM Kevin Stratton via WLUG < > wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > >>> > >>>> VPN services are a good tool for privacy. However, they they still > rely > >>>> on the trust in the ownership/VPN service country's laws and > policies. > >>>> A VPN service is effectively a 'man in the middle'. > >>> > >>>> On 12/8/2023 3:13 AM, Robert Schwein via WLUG wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> You've pretty much hit the high points Chuck. From my own experience > >>>>> when going overseas if I'm able to VPN to the country I'm going to, > >>>>> the rental car reservation is considerably less in cost to reserve > >>>>> that car than if I reserved it from state side. I'm assuming there > is > >>>>> a difference between a poor native and a rich American. > >>>>> > >>>>> Bob > >>>>> > >>>>> On 12/8/2023 12:56 AM, Chuck Anderson via WLUG wrote: > >>>>>> On Thu, Dec 07, 2023 at 09:08:00PM -0500, Doug Mildram via WLUG > wrote: > >>>>>> So, maybe or maybe not, that's the kind of VPN I suspect they're > selling, > >>>>>> but I don't see the value for normal folks....or maybe anyone. > (educate > >>>>>> me!) > >>>>>> Unless their hosted-server-world-route network security is a win. > >>>>>> Thanks for listening, and my thursday's look better than usual this > month, > >>>>>> so hoping for WLUG virtually dec 14. -doug > >>>>>> Yes. Those "modern" VPNs are used for many reasons. Here are a > couple: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> - To appear to servers/services that you are physically located in a > >>>>>> different geographical area. This can help you bypass > >>>>>> geographically restricted content, such as watching sports programs > >>>>>> that content owners don't want you to see based on where you live > >>>>>> (local sports broadcast blackouts). Or trick hotels into giving you > >>>>>> a better price--yes, hotels can hike the rates they present to you > >>>>>> if they think you are nearby--assuming you need last-minute > >>>>>> accomodations while you are away on vacation. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> - To hide your real IP address from servers and/or hide your > browsing > >>>>>> from intermediaries (your ISP for example) for privacy. This could > >>>>>> be so you can avoid being tracked and having your browsing habits > >>>>>> sold to advertisers (something your ISP can easily do--SSL does not > >>>>>> hide DNS queries although that is changing with the availability of > >>>>>> DNS-over-HTTPS and similar), to hide from authorities/copyright > >>>>>> enforcers, or for life-and-death reasons (hide from unfriendly > >>>>>> governments.) > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> WLUG mailing list --wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > >>>>>> To unsubscribe send an email towlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > >>>>>> Create Account:https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > >>>>>> Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > >>>>>> Web Forum/Archive: > >>>> > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/ZC4W3… > >>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > >>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > >>>>> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > >>>>> Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > >>>>> Web Forum/Archive: > >>>> > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/TI4DE… > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > >>>> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > >>>> Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > >>>> Web Forum/Archive: > >>>> > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/2OD7Q… > >>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > >>>> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > >>>> Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > >>>> Web Forum/Archive: > >>>> > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/E6KIC… > >>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > >>>> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > >>>> Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > >>>> Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/532CN… > >> _______________________________________________ > >> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > >> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > >> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > >> Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > >> Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/NK7RY… > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/7MG6I… > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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