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Re: [EXT] Re: [EXT] The future of WLUG

by Anderson, Charles R

The presenter's computer could be screencast onto the video stream by using Open Broadcast Studio (OBS). We had a presentation on OBS awhile back. On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 04:11:19PM -0500, Joshua Stone via WLUG wrote: > That's excellent news! Sounds like the service is already paying for itself. > > I'm not opposed to video uploads, so long as the video/audio production is > decent and the camera isn't in people's faces. I have a Sony video camera > with native 4K and optical zoom, with a shotgun microphone attachment for > capturing audio in front of the camera instead of the surrounding area. I > also have a blue yeti if you want a good microphone for public speakers to > use. > > We could make this a bit fancier and less intrusive by having a screencast > of the speaker's computer to show slideshow material, terminal output, etc, > and have an omnidirectional microphone listening and syncing with the > screencast. > > -Josh > > On Wed, Jan 15, 2020, 13:51 Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > I've gotten a couple of hits about people possibly showing up for the next > > WLUG meeting from meetup. That's cool! > > > > I went looking at the Boston Linux Users Group site and it's clear to me > > that we're really missing the boat with putting our meetings on youtube, > > well at least the ones with a definite presenter. > > > > Would people be freaked out about being on youtube? Is this something that > > people would be interested in? I've got a decent DSLR we could use to take > > video, but I don't want people to be uncomfortable. > > > > Tim. > > > > On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 1:41 PM <joshua.gage.stone(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Tim, > >> > >> Thank you very much for creating a meetup.com group for us! The UX for > >> finding future meetups and adding meetup dates to a calender is quite good. > >> Finding WLUG should also be fairly easy now when searching for "linux" > >> within a 50 mile radius of Boston: > >> > >> > >> https://www.meetup.com/find/?allMeetups=false&keywords=linux&radius=50&user… > >> > >> I've noticed that some search strings will show LUGs with overlapping > >> interests but not WLUG. I think adding more words like "FOSS", "Android", > >> "Libre", "Open Source", "Ubuntu", "Fedora", "OpenSUSE", "Arch Linux", > >> "Unix", etc, to the related topics and/or What We're About section should > >> improve this. > >> > >> I've tried setting up a community over Slack but I think the steps need > >> to join was what made it too intrusive for new people -- take joining the > >> Rust language Slack server for example: > >> > >> https://rust-slack.herokuapp.com/ > >> > >> - Send an invite link to your email > >> - Register with a name and password > >> - Be greeted with prompts about whether to send notifications > >> - Open the #general channel > >> > >> And this has to be repeated for joining every community that has their > >> own Slack server, or at least this has been my experience so far. I think > >> Slack has cemented itself as more of a means for teams to collaborate on a > >> project, not so much for casual users who want to jump right into a new > >> chat. > >> > >> Matrix only needs to register a username and password (email is optional) > >> on the server you're on, and once that's done you can join any number of > >> channels on that server. This is much closer to the UX of IRC, and it's > >> still superior in some ways because there's no fiddling with choosing a > >> specific authentication method like SASL and/or authenticating with nickserv > >> > >> I think in general Matrix has more mindshare amongst Linux users as a > >> modern alternative to IRC, which I think is worth considering when > >> comparing frequency of posts on Reddit: > >> > >> > >> https://old.reddit.com/r/linux/search?q=matrix&restrict_sr=on&sort=relevanc… > >> > >> -Josh > >> > >> On Sat, 2020-01-11 at 22:59 -0500, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote: > >> > >> This morning I went out and created a meetup group for WLUG: > >> https://www.meetup.com/Worcester-Linux-Users-Group and paid for six > >> months. Feel free to go and join up if you'd like. > >> > >> The matrix stuff is cool, I cut my teeth on IRC so I'm always partial to > >> the old school but I also understand that eventually we'll want a slack > >> channel as well maybe. > >> > >> Tim. > >> > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 4:07 PM Anderson, Charles R via WLUG < > >> wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > >> > >> We also have an IRC channel: > >> > >> http://www.wlug.org/participate.html > >> > >> Internet Relay Chat > >> > >> Join the realtime chat on our IRC channel. > >> > >> Connect your IRC client to irc.freenode.net > >> Join the #wlug-ma channel or join directly from this link: irc:// > >> irc.freenode.net/#wlug-ma. > >> See more information about Freenode and join the chat from your web > >> browser > >> > >> but maybe IRC is too old school--no one chats on it anymore. > >> > >> On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 04:03:14PM -0500, Joshua Stone via WLUG wrote: > >> > Hey all, > >> > > >> > Last night's meeting was excellent, and I'd like say thanks again to > >> > Tim for giving me a ride home! > >> > > >> > Last night's discussion gave me ideas of ways we could improve general > >> > activity, increase attendence, and improve outreach efforts. Hosting a > >> > meetup.com group would be certainly improve discoverability, and > >> > getting in touch with WPI's computer science group would be great too. > >> > > >> > I think what a lot communities are doing nowadays is having a text chat > >> > format for users who want to communicate more easily over the internet, > >> > especially with mobile devices. As an example, there are Discord > >> > servers for Fedora, Ubuntu, OpenSUSE, etc, and they have room sizes > >> > generally in the hundreds or even well over a thousand. Even before > >> > Discord they'd use IRC for providing support, posting updates, etc. > >> > > >> > Having a text chat of our own would certainly help improve > >> > participation -- I think Matrix would be a good option here because it > >> > has many nice features and has a fairly polished user experience: > >> > > >> > - Numerous clients available on desktop, mobile, and web ( > >> > https://matrix.org/clients/ > >> > - Persistent chat history > >> > - Link previews > >> > - Various bots to choose from for adding functionality ( > >> > https://matrix.org/docs/projects/bots/ > >> > - User moderation > >> > - Server federation > >> > - Self-hosting available, both client and server are completely FOSS > >> > - File sharing > >> > - Voice/video calls > >> > > >> > > >> > I have a screenshot if anyone wants to see what a Matrix chat room > >> > would look like: > >> > > >> > https://i.imgur.com/aVILcWB.png > >> > > >> > Or you can join the room I made: > >> > > >> > https://matrix.to/#/!EiTljkvagZDFKfQfFu:matrix.org?via=matrix.org > >> > > >> > Alteratively, if you have a Matrix client already: > >> > > >> > #wlug:matrix.org > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Any thoughts?

5 years, 9 months

Re: Dec meeting.. not the 14th! 21st or 28th?

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Althea" == Althea Shaheen via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: I've been busy, so I'm coming back to this late... > I use a wireguard VPN on my phone anytime I leave my house, mainly > for ad blocking. I run pi-hole at home to block ads network wide, > and when I leave wifi, my phone automatically joins the VPN at home > and uses the same pi-hole servers for DNS. Internet traffic is still > directly through my carrier (so split tunnel) but my DNS is hidden > from them and ad free! Do you run wireguard on your firewall or do you pass it inside into a base host? > -thea > On Sat, Dec 9, 2023, at 03:54, Jon "maddog" Hall via WLUG wrote: >> However, they still rely on the trust in the ownership/VPN service country's laws and > policies. >> A VPN service is effectively a 'man in the middle'. > This is why everyone should train their mother to offer a secure ISP/VPN service. > "Mom's VPN: Do you trust your Mom?" > md > On Fri, Dec 8, 2023 at 11:44 AM Kevin Stratton via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > VPN services are a good tool for privacy. However, they they still rely > on the trust in the ownership/VPN service country's laws and policies. > A VPN service is effectively a 'man in the middle'. > On 12/8/2023 3:13 AM, Robert Schwein via WLUG wrote: >> >> You've pretty much hit the high points Chuck. From my own experience >> when going overseas if I'm able to VPN to the country I'm going to, >> the rental car reservation is considerably less in cost to reserve >> that car than if I reserved it from state side. I'm assuming there is >> a difference between a poor native and a rich American. >> >> Bob >> >> On 12/8/2023 12:56 AM, Chuck Anderson via WLUG wrote: >>> On Thu, Dec 07, 2023 at 09:08:00PM -0500, Doug Mildram via WLUG wrote: >>>> So, maybe or maybe not, that's the kind of VPN I suspect they're selling, >>>> but I don't see the value for normal folks....or maybe anyone. (educate >>>> me!) >>>> Unless their hosted-server-world-route network security is a win. >>>> Thanks for listening, and my thursday's look better than usual this month, >>>> so hoping for WLUG virtually dec 14. -doug >>> Yes. Those "modern" VPNs are used for many reasons. Here are a couple: >>> >>> - To appear to servers/services that you are physically located in a >>> different geographical area. This can help you bypass >>> geographically restricted content, such as watching sports programs >>> that content owners don't want you to see based on where you live >>> (local sports broadcast blackouts). Or trick hotels into giving you >>> a better price--yes, hotels can hike the rates they present to you >>> if they think you are nearby--assuming you need last-minute >>> accomodations while you are away on vacation. >>> >>> - To hide your real IP address from servers and/or hide your browsing >>> from intermediaries (your ISP for example) for privacy. This could >>> be so you can avoid being tracked and having your browsing habits >>> sold to advertisers (something your ISP can easily do--SSL does not >>> hide DNS queries although that is changing with the availability of >>> DNS-over-HTTPS and similar), to hide from authorities/copyright >>> enforcers, or for life-and-death reasons (hide from unfriendly >>> governments.) >>> _______________________________________________ >>> WLUG mailing list --wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email towlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >>> Create Account:https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >>> Change Settings:https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >>> Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/ZC4W3… >> >> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >> Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >> Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/TI4DE… > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/2OD7Q… > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/E6KIC… > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/532CN…

1 year, 10 months

Re: [Wlug] non-Linux: Looking for a free kitten locally

by Tal Cohen

I recommend the Sterling Animal Shelter. We got our dog there. -----Original Message----- From: wlug-bounces(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-bounces@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Jamie Guinan Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 3:41 PM To: Tatsh Cc: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [Wlug] non-Linux: Looking for a free kitten locally I suspect the amount you would pay at the animal shelter would PALE next to what you are going to pay for vet bills, spaying/neutering (usually done around 6 mos as I recall), food, etc. So despite your comment, I'll plug these guys: http://www.worcester-arl.org/catsAdoption.html But for another source, people are giving away kittens all the time on Worcester freecycle. Its a Yahoo groups thing, which totally sucks balls, but I have found good stuff on there from time to time. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WorcesterMAfreecycle/ Example: Wed Jul 29, 2009 4:50 pm offer: young grey kitten with white paws 01604 -Jamie On Wed, 12 Aug 2009, Tatsh wrote: > I know I have not ever sent an email, but I've been on the mailing > list for some time. Been extremely interested in going to meetings but > just have not done so yet. > > If you are local, and have healthy kittens to give away or know anyone > who does locally (I live in Lancaster, about 20 minutes away from > Worcester), please respond. Looking to just get one, at maximum 5 > months old. > > I have been scouring the web and craigslist and have not found much. I > do not really want to drop the amount they want at the local animal shelter. > > Any help appreciated. > > Thanks > Andrew > 978-870-5908 > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

16 years, 2 months

Re: [Wlug] what size/speed combo to use for a dual SCSI system?

by Andy Stewart

On Saturday 04 October 2003 7:57 am, Brian McLinden wrote: > Hello -- I'm new here, and hoping to meet many of you soon! > > I want to multi-boot and play with three distros for a machine that would > most likely always be a workstation, not a server. It would be for > numerical work and not involve large or many audio or video files. > > It happens that the smaller the SCSI drive, the better the performance, and > of course the smallest, fastest sizes available for SCSI are 18G and 32G. > > I'm planning to buy a matched pair of drives in order to spread the > partitions for each distro across the two drives. > > Two questions: > > 1. I'd like to use use 2x18, but in your opinion, do I need 2x32? HI Brian, I admire your zeal ! :-) I run SCSI drives in my systems at home. It is true that SCSI drives have better performance at higher cost relative to IDE. It is also true that a drive spinning at 10-15K rpms has an acoustic quality which my ears don't like. I don't think most people need 18 GB of disk space, but that's what is sold today. Folks who consume large amounts of disk space are typically saving alot of videos, mp3s, and pictures. > 2. Do you think 15000 rpm will be noticeably snappier than 10000 rpm? For your purposes, probably not. In a server environment with a large number of users, most definitely. Save a few bucks and get the U160 drives as they are trying to sell those off to make room for the (new) U320 drives. Your SCSI controller would be cheaper, too, if you did that. Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

22 years

Re: [Wlug] Burning ISO's

by David Goss

i've got 73 on cd if you need a copy... but from what i've seen so far don't rush into anyuthing... 72 with a couple kernal upgrades runs just as well... assimilation is futile dave goss ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keller, Tim" <Tim.Keller(a)stratus.com> To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 1:50 PM Subject: RE: [Wlug] Burning ISO's > Your other solution might be to bribe a member of wlug to make a copy of > their 7.3 disks in exchange for a free beer after the meeting tonight. > > unfortunately, 1. I don't drink beer and 2. I won't be able to attend, > otherwise I'd make a copy for you... > > Later, > Tim. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Simoncini, Matthew [mailto:Matthew.Simoncini@bsci.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 12:55 PM > To: 'wlug(a)mail.wlug.org' > Subject: [Wlug] Burning ISO's > > > Hi everyone, > > I recently downloaded the iso's for Red Hat 7.3 and wanted to burn them to > CD so I can install the distro on my home PC. I've never burned iso's > before, so this is new to me. I have the following setup: > > Work PC running Windows 2000 w/ iso images for Red Hat 7.3 saved to hard > drive > CD Burner > Prassi PrimoCD Plus 2.0 burner software by Veritas > > From the little that I know, I understand that iso images need to be burned > in a certain way rather than just copied to a CD-ROM. Can anyone point me to > a site or a particular program for burning iso's? > > Thanks. > > Matthew > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

23 years, 4 months

Re: Thanks for an amazing 2023, more fun to be had in 2024!

by Kevin Harrington

Yall are welcome to come in Saturdays 1-4, since i am there for Robot Club. Thoughts? On Fri, Jan 5, 2024 at 2:48 PM Gregory Boyce via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > > > On Fri, Jan 5, 2024 at 2:20 PM John Stoffel via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: >> >> >>>>> "Tim" == Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: >> >> >> > Thanks for sticking with WLUG! It's been a year of change and >> > challenges. We found ourselves a new home at Technocopia and make >> > some new friends along the way. This is going to be another amazing >> > year of talks and demos, lively conversations and general geeking >> > out on all things. >> >> > I look forward to many more WLUG meetings to come. >> >> I wonder what Tim and the rest of us can do to improve membership and >> more importantly attendance at Technocopia? Is it too far for people >> to drive? A bad day of the month? A bad time frame? A bad location? > > > For me, Thursdays are just tough. I'm divorced, and I spent Thursday evenings with my kids. The same is true for Tuesdays. > > If there was ever an interest in a weekend meetup, that could work better for me. I also have access to space at WorcShop in Leicester, if room for an event was needed. > > -- > Greg > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/E6IJ4…

1 year, 9 months

Flat screen monitor 19" needs fixit; free to good home

by E Johnson

The power went out here twice today. After the second event, monitor seems to have died. This is an Acer monitor, several years old. Black(ish) bezel; not glossy. Flat screen, I think 19" diagonal. Has been a very nice reliable monitor during its working life. Has choice of DVI input or the older kind of data connection, whatever that used to be. This specific batch of Acer monitors had used a type of capacitor which is known to have a higher-than-usual failure rate, and this is PROBABLY what it needs. Had a twin of this that fryolated same way 2 years ago, and a WLUG member came by & reported shortly after that he got it up & running with just the replacement of bad caps. This monitor has been very steady and reliable until this afternoon, with nice display and no dead pixels, ever. So if you are handy with electronics fixits, capacitors are cheap and you could probably get this working again with only a screwdriver, a soldering iron and a little bit of fiddling. Might be nice for the kid's playroom or the back office, or something. I don't know how nice games look on this monitor, since I don't do gaming. Videos always looked perfectly fine with good color. PM me if you think you want this, since I have to get down under the work table to unplug the power cord & I'm not as spry as I used to be, but can do as long as my knees aren't required to do anything radical before Noon. Pickup after Noon any day, & evenings even sort-of late-ish are okay. I can meet you at the door with this. I'm in Worcester near Elm Park. Rather give this away here than trash it, or Freecycle... first dibs to WLUG. Best wishes, Liz J

10 years, 4 months

W.L.U.G. TV show...

by Keller, Tim

For those who didn't attend the meeting last night, we talked a little about the idea of producing a linux focused TV Show. From that discussion we decided that the best thing to-do would be to have the main part of the discussion through the mail list. So, here it is... Firstly, I think we need to decide who our target audience is. This morning I came up with notion that generally, users can be broken into several groups. The first group are novice users. These are people who use a computer, but the concept of an operating system or the idea that windows isn't just "part of the system" and not removable is alien. The second group is "advanced" users. I think most of us would fall into this group. We understand OS's, hardware, software and all the digital glue that holds it together. The third group is educational users. These would be people who work in some education institution and they're interest in linux would be from the standpoint of deploying it for cost savings and/or using it as an education tool for teaching. The forth group would be corporate suit types. These are the people who read the trade rags, but don't have a clear understanding of what linux. They've read lots of conflicting FUD on the subject and aren't sure how linux could be used in they're environment or what the real TCO would be. Personally, I think we should go after groups 1-3. The reason I'm not too worried about the fourth type is that now that redhat had decided that they're going to go full force into the enterprise environment, they'll be busy spending lots of PR dollars convincing the suits. What do people think. Also, if it is the consensus that we should focus on groups 1-3, should we narrow our focus even more? Thanks, Tim.

21 years, 11 months

Re: [Wlug] Awesome article about Windows v. Linux in the marketplace

by Desdinova

On 8/16/07, Eric Martin <freak4uxxx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I found this on either digg or slashdot. It's a really good article and I > agree with most of it. People won't even consider GNU/Linux while they can > still get a copy of XP for free from a buddy. I think that's kind of silly, they won't consider Linux because it doesn't run *foo*. Not because they can get windows for "free." The people who would actually want a pirated copy of windows, system builders, nerds, *us*, are well-equipped to make that leap or not. The people that FOSS/Linux folks keep pitching too, everyone else, already has a legit copy installed on their new prebuilt, or goes and buys one at Staples. The community as a whole really needs to stop trying to degrade every other choice and extol the virtues of what they've got. You attract more bees with honey. Smear tactics are for politicians. I know some (many?) FOSS advocates are politically motivated but, trust me, that aforementioned everyone else doesn't care. Maybe they should, maybe they shouldn't, but they certainly don't now. > That's why I tell people that > I won't support their pirating of software; and pitch FOSS at every turn to > them. http://tlug.jp/articles/Windows_Is_Free Give it a > read, it might spur some good conversations tonight. I agree with your stance on piracy but I'd submit that that audience has already made their choice. I suppose I shouldn't really comment because I'm not a politico; I have no larger cause nor ill-will for windows. I use the tool that works for the job at hand. On the other hand, maybe that brings a little subjectivism to the evangelicals. ;) Wish I could've made tonight's meeting. Take care, James

18 years, 2 months

Re: Windows 11 wife tech support - replacement for Veracrypt

by Tim Keller

Does she have to be able to access these files while at work or just at home? I was just looking at Proton Drive and I think it's the right solution to her problem. Tim. On Mon, May 27, 2024 at 8:00 PM joel d via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > > Haven't been able to make a LUG meeting in a few months. Hope all are > well. > > I know it's not the focus of WLUG, but have a Windows based, wife tech > support issue. > > She is in Finance, not technology, and therefore only uses Windows 11 > laptop provided by her employer. > > For years she has had a TrueCrypt, and now a VeraCrypt drive she uses for > 'eyes only' stuff like resume and private personal item's. > > Her new employer locks down Windows, not allowing running of an EXE or MSI > without an admin password. So I cannot continue trend running Veracrypt > as either installed or as Veracrypt portable. > > Size of files to secure is reasonable at about 550MB today. > > I am not a fan of USB thumb drives for data reliability long term. To > many LT flaky or dropped in puddles. > > I am thinking an encrypted Internet Drive setup, something like Proton > Drive or similar. > > Any known Windows options for me to try for my wife? > > Thank you, > Joel > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/ISYAQ… > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

1 year, 4 months

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