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Re: [Wlug] November talk topics

by Jeff Moyer

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 ==> Regarding Re: [Wlug] November talk topics; Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> adds: andystewart> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 andystewart> Jeff Moyer wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I just recently got back from Germany, where I gave two talks at this >> year's Linux Kongress. One talk focuses on the state of the >> automounter, and the other discusses the netpoll API. You can find >> abstracts at the Linux Kongress website: >> http://www.linux-kongress.org/2005/abstracts.html >> >> If the group is interested in either of these, I'd be more than happy to >> present. I could also give a quick run-down of what the conference was >> like, who to go out drinking with, etc. >> >> Slides for these talks are available on my people page: >> http://people.redhat.com/jmoyer/index.html#presentations >> >> >> If there's no interest in these topics, it won't hurt my feelings. >> Honest. ;) >> >> -Jeff andystewart> Hi Jeff, andystewart> I think a talk about the automounter would be great - honest! andystewart> Naturally, we want to hear the drinking stories also. ;-) andystewart> The next meeting is Wed Nov 2 - can you do it then? Yup, can do. - -Jeff -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 <http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/> iD8DBQFDWW6JH/inyh944bQRAqDfAJ9gp+FQBOLXYCvfJr4tX49mYJs57gCgpkZ9 0hEFRL3ZIA/QdeN1mM9WVYw= =1hVD -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Oct. 21, 2005

Re: CAD /3D printing

by Tim Keller

As multi extruder printers and core XY printers with tool changers become more prevalent, this might be the case. Out the box 3mf can carry much more data about colors, materials, etc. Out of the box I believe that STL doesn't support that, but it's also just a text file, so I can't see why you couldn't extend the format. I just looked at Cura and Kisslicer and they both support the 3MF format. I could imagine some future where you've got a file that would fully support building a complex product that might include additive, subtractive, trace drawing, pick and place and firmware load. That would be cool. Tim. On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 7:28 PM Richard Klein via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > Somewhat off-topic for this list, but we often discuss 3D printing... > > I'm sitting in a SolidWorks user group meeting. The presenter mentioned > that Windows 10 includes a 3D paint program (or maybe it's a 3D mode in the > regular paint program). You can paint in there and import the files into > SolidWorks for further editing. > > He also mentioned that he thinks 3MF files will replace STL because they > carry more data. > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Jan. 17, 2020

Re: [Wlug] Anyone running Linux on Pegasos?

by Jared Greenwald

I think I remember seeing something about Gentoo supporting the Genesi hardware platform... There is some connection between the two - I think Genesi is a supporter or Gentoo and that they also will be selling PPC boxes with Gentoo pre-installed. All in the name of Open Desktop. -Jared On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 23:04:08 -0500, Webmaster <webmaster(a)atari-users.net> wrote: > A Pegasos is a PPC based system. MorphOS is somewhat of an Amiga OS > clone. The Pegasos has had Linux ported to it. > > But my question for Pete is.. think Genesi (Pegasos company) will be > around a year from now? > > check out http://www.pegasosppc.com fro info on the board. > > Rob Mahlert > > > Charles R. Anderson wrote: > > >On Tue, Feb 01, 2005 at 07:33:28PM -0500, Pete Wason wrote: > > > > > >>Just curious... I have a Peg I, but I'm running MorphOS. > >> > >>Boots in about 4 seconds ;-) > >> > >>Pete Wason > >> > >> > > > >What's a Pegasos? > > > >Looks like we have a volunteer to present at the next meeting :) > >_______________________________________________ > >Wlug mailing list > >Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Feb. 2, 2005

Re: [Wlug] stuff

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 02 July 2004 11:00 am, orbitz wrote: > And then? > > J Schonberg wrote: > >Hi Andy. > > > >I guess if you are reading this, you made it home safely. > > > >I stepped off the train . . . and a bunch of us waited for the train > >to move forward to cross the tracks. Then the conductor indicated > >that we could cross infront of the train because the train wasn't > >going anywhere. > > > >When I crossed the tracks, I saw the first of three poliece cars . . > I met Jason and a couple of other WLUGers at the MegaLUG meeting in Boston on Thursday evening. Jason and I ended up riding the Lowell train at midnight to get home. Jason exited at N. Billerica, and the train sat idle for about 5 minutes. I wondered why. Suddenly, the conductor and 2 Billerica police officers boarded the train and walked past me to the rear of the car. One "gentleman" was escorted off of the train for offenses unknown to me. As the train left the station, I saw 3 police cars in the parking lot. The train proceeded to the Lowell station without further incident. I guess the suspense was better than the real story.... :-) Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA5YdyHl0iXDssISsRAhuLAJ42/MCqxWRccbSnxamWcQO18bNkxgCeIF9R /j7jcekZxYruLqaRxlIV5bc= =nkta -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

July 2, 2004

Re: [Wlug] Information for Linux newbies?

by Mike Leo

Where the heck is everything? http://tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/sect_03_01.html has a nice chart I think one thing that frustrates people is their relative path to everything...you can't cd /mike unless you're already in /home for instance. Even from the GUI's, Windows people will start at C:\ and move around from there. ----- Original Message ---- From: Kevin Harrington <mad.hephaestus(a)gmail.com> To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 12:01:05 AM Subject: [Wlug] Information for Linux newbies? As i mentioned at the meeting this past week I am going to be giving a seminar for linux newbies and would like to pull from people that know better then i do on what i should teach people. What i would like to know is: What are some things that you wish you had known as a newbie? Think back to your very first linux install and any short-cuts, tips, tricks, and gatcha's that would make peoples first experience easier. There is a lot of windows resentment after the slow trainwreck that is vista, so lets see if we can get a few new converts! P.S. one of the big concerns for a few people that i have talked to has been games, if anyone has a list of new-ish games that work or any tips specific to making the most recent generation work under linux, that would make things much easier ;) _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Nov. 18, 2007

Re: [Wlug] Re: Next Meeting?

by donald vitkus

Stephen C. Daukas wrote: > Not to trigger a full blown debate... > > It doesn't matter what point *we* are at, it matters what point anyone > who decides to show up is at. It also doesn't matter what can fit on > a flash drive... You have to ask yourself who the intended audience > is. If it is techies who already know what a home directory is and > might end up playing with Linux without WLUG's help, then it doesn't > matter what you show, or if you demo more than one thing. > > If, however, you are trying to interest newbies who might decide to > stay with what they already have if the alternative is perceived as a > lot of work, then I would advise skipping the discussion about how > cool the technology is and focus on why a standard Linux distro is > useful. As I keep reminding my students - the technology is > meaningless, the important questions to ask is "what can you do with > it". If you really want to excite a lot of students, show them how > they can save money and, more importantly time, and still turn their > assignments in on time in a format acceptable to their professors! > > The reason for my initial comment in this thread was simple: In my > experience at WPI, a non-trivial minority of students do not have a > tremendous amount of experience with computers - even the self > professed "programmers." Students new to WPI are already overwhelmed > with some 30-40 hours a week of school work outside of class time. If > they are "into computers" then they are already interested enough to > invest their time based on the "technology is cool" camp. If, > however, they are interested in technology as a tool, they will look > at the demo, size up how much effort is involved (and that includes > how readily available the necessary information is and how easy that > info is to use), decide how helpful the venue is to trying Linux, > assess if Linux/WLUG/whatever is worth it to them, and make a > decision. If, as you say, the commercial distributions are no more > difficult to install than windows, then that is what we should be > showing, as well as OpenOffice, Mozilla, and so forth. > > Steve > > Matt Higgins wrote: > >>My 2 cents or less if you will. >> >>I think Knoppix is the way to go! The point is to showoff Linux-wares not to >>teach about a particular distributions configuration mechanism or file system >>layout. Knoppix is clean and impressive in many ways and does a great job at >>showing off what Linux can do. Furthermore we are to the point were a Linux >>install is no more difficult then a Windows install, particularly the commercial >>distributions; Red Hat, SuSe, Mandrake, Yellow Dog, etc... >> >>So thats my 2 cents or less, long live Slackware! >> >>Matt >> >>Quoting Steve Freitag <Steve.Freitag(a)alum.wpi.edu>: >> >> >> >>>I've recently spent a small amount of time playing around with both the SuSe >>>8.2 Live Eval, and Knoppix 7-26-03, so I thought I'd pass along my >>>observation >>> >>> >>> >>>Both default you into KDE and have a similar selection of apps (Like >>>OpenOffice, Mozilla, the GIMP etc). Knoppix happens to be based of Debian. >>> >>> >>> >>>There were a couple of things I liked about Knoppix. The first is that you >>>don't have to go through all the YaST screens when you boot, Knoppix just >>>boots right up to KDE and logs you on as user knoppix. The other neat thing >>>about Knoppix is that you can save your configuration and home directory of >>>the size you specify on a USB flash drive. With SuSE if you want to save >>>your configuration/home dir it creates a 100MB file on your hard drive (and >>>another 100MB for swap if you want). With Knoppix you can carry a cheap >>>($10 after rebate) 64MB USB flash drive around with you and a Knoppix CD and >>>boot a PC into your personal environment without touching the hard disk. >>> >>> >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf >>>Of Stephen C. Daukas >>>Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 4:23 PM >>>To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>>Subject: Re: [Wlug] Re: Next Meeting? >>> >>> >>> >>>Is introducing yet-another-flavor-of-linux useful? I understand what you >>>are trying to achieve, but one of the first questions that came to my mind >>>was "what is the difference between Knoppix and a regular Linux distro"? >>>(The first was actually "what the hell is Knopix"!) Will it be confusing to >>>the people looking at is verusus what they see when they look at SuSe, Red >>>Hat, etc.? >>> >>>Andy Stewart wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>On Monday 01 September 2003 4:52 pm, albutler33(a)netscape.net wrote: >>> >>> >>>Andy, >>> >>>I think a great topic especially for the new students would be "Fast Track >>>to Linux" where you introduce the GNOME and KDE desktops and a few of your >>>favorite tools and utilities. >>> >>>Al Butler >>> >>> >>> >>>HI Al, >>> >>>My most current thoughts are centered on Linux, its origins, the GPL, >>>WLUG/WPILA, and then segue into single CD demo distributions for folks who >>>want to "kick the tires", as it were, without fully committing their hard >>>drives to Linux. >>> >>>One such single CD demo distribution is Knoppix, which does have KDE (and >>>GNOME?). Once Knoppix is running, many things could be demonstrated. If I >>>go with this idea, I'd want to have copies of the Knoppix CD available for >>>people to take home, and hopefully they would try it at their leisure. >>> >>>How does that sound? Do people have additional ideas? Let's hear them! >>>:-) >>> >>>Later, >>> >>>Andy >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>__________________________________________________________________ >>>McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network. >>>Comprehensive protection for your entire computer. Get your free trial >>>today! >>>http://channels.netscape.com/ns/computing/mcafee/index.jsp?promo=393397 >>> >>>Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 free of charge. Download Now! >>>http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promo=380455 >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Wlug mailing list >>>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>-- >>>Stephen C. Daukas - stephen(a)daukas.com - http://daukas.com/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Wlug mailing list >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> >> >> >> > >-- >Stephen C. Daukas - stephen(a)daukas.com - http://daukas.com/ > > > I hope you will slow down the process if you have to trouble shoot the install of linux.

Jan. 8, 2000

Re: [Wlug] Here I am begging again.

by Richard Klein

On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Ken Jones<kjones(a)ziplink.net> wrote: > I have not been making the meetings. That does not mean my SUN ULTRA1 > running Aurora Linux can no longer create 'interesting' problems. This time > the second SUN ULTRA running Gentoo is in cahoots. > > I have a new SAMSUNG SyncMaster flat screen monitor. I have attached this > monitor via a Belkin SUN adapter to my ULTRA1's. It does not work!! The > monitor flashes a little square window saying something about "Not optimum > mode". It feels that it has not been configured correctly. The buttons on > the right of the monitor, which are there to set it up, also do not work > with the SUN's is attached. > > The monitor works fine with PC type machinery. The Belkin worked fine with > a regular old tube monitor. (I have not dug out the old monitor to check > whether it still works. I suspect it does.) > > Anybody have any ideas? I assume you're using the analog input to the monitor rather than DVI. Is that the case? Either way, 60 Hz refresh is probably what you want for an LCD display. I think the analog input can tolerate other refresh rates, but DVI can only handle 60 Hz. We'd have to look at the monitor specs to figure out what other settings should be. -- Rich Sent from Marlborough, MA, United States

Aug. 20, 2009

Re: [Wlug] Meeting Topic Idea - MythTV

by John Stoffel

All, Sorry if this is going off topic, since we're not talking Linux much here.... thought Myth is linux, and Tivo is linux with additions, so it's sorta kinda maybe relevant. :] John >>>>> <bkn(a)ithryn.net> writes: > On Wed, 7 May 2008 08:30:12 -0400, "John Stoffel" <john(a)stoffel.org> wrote: >>>>>>> "Eric" == Eric Martin <freak4uxxx(a)gmail.com> writes: >> Eric> I have a mythbox but can't bring it in as my wife would *KILL* Eric> me. I can however talk about a few things although I don't see Eric> it going past 20 minutes. If anybody's interested in it I could Eric> throw something together for a later date... >> > I also have am mythtv box. > Someone was asking about a distro earlier. The latest ubuntu appears to > have ivtv support built into the kernel and the lirc code built into the > kernel. The former is a driver for the hauppauge tv cards the the latter is > for the remote. Until very recently ivtv and lirc were a challenge to get > working because it meant you had to recompile your kernel every time > something changed. > Other challenges for old tube-style TV is to get it to display to > the TV correctly. I believe you need a special X11 driver for > this. The new LCD TVs are much more friendly when it comes to > plugging-in a computer. Right now I've just got a plain old JVC Tube TV, which has worked great for years and years. No plans to replace until it's dead dead dead. Not HD plans either... it would be a waste on a 32" TV screen. >> >> Now my big questions, since I can't make the meeting due to other >> commitments, is as follows: >> >> - do people use their TiVo remotes with Myth? >> > I use the remote that came with my pvr card. It works really well. I > need to use the TV remote to turn the TV on, but once the TV is on, > i only use the mythtv remote to control TV. I also use mythtv and > the mythtv remote to play DVDs using xine, which is the only media > player i could find that has decent DVD menu support. Does the PVR remote not have the ability to turn on the TV power? My TiVo talks quite well to my TV, except for changing channels when I'm on the TV Tuner input, and not on the TiVo tuner. >> - anyone hack a TiVo to be a Myth frontend box? > I believe their tv tuners is propriety, but i could be wrong on > this. The hauppauge cards are well supported under linux many of > them have hardware decoders and encoders which alleviate the load on > the CPU for converting the TV streams. I don't want to use the TiVo as the backend in this case, I just want to use it to read streams off the backend Myth box and display them to the TV. Seems like a perfect use for an old Series 1 or series 2 Tivo which you don't want to pay the monthly fee for any more. Ideally, if I setup a Myth server, I'd have my TiVo as the front end, along with it's remote. Ideally. >> - which capture cards work with Digital cable? >> > I don't know of any, read more below ... I know they must exist, but I honestly haven't researched this much at all. Nor do I care for HD Digital cable either. It's just not worth the money to me. Though when my Wife see the RedSox on high def, she just might want it badly enough! *grin* But the real goal is simplicity. And minimum number of remotes. >> - does it need to be downstream of the cable box? > Yes. I did set this up at my place just to test it. With my setup > using comcast, i had a serial cable plugged into the mythtv box and > the cable box. I was able to change the channels on the digital > cable box. There is significant lag -- i mean more so than lag than > usual digital cable. Since i don't want anything that comes through > on the digital channels i just setup the analog side to go to my > mythtv box. That gets me all the channels i want. We're ok with Analog too, except for BBC America is up over 100, so we need Digital to get that. And I'm bummed at the slowness of the Tivo changing channels on my Digital Cable box (using the IR doohickey), it's really annoying. >> I was just at my mom's house and she has a new Sony LCD HD TV. >> Realize that my mom is clueless about technology, so much so that they >> took advantage of her and sold her a Toshiba HD DVD player too. >> Sigh... > ouch. I would definitely take it back, where did she get this? I > would go find their manager. that's really absurd. It's too late now, it's been two months since she got this setup, my first time down to visit and see it. I wasn't too impressed with the picture quality, nor with the Sony TV in terms of configurability, etc. Not to say I'm still not pissed at them for this. The annoying part is that the TV has 8+ inputs, but she only uses two of them, and I cannot turn off the rest of them so she can't see them by default. Total pain in the butt. I'm thinking the Harmony remote with the two buttons that say "Watch TV" and "Watch a movie", properly programmed, would be a life saver for her, and for me. >> All she wants is a big screen so she can watch TV and DVDs. That's >> it. Now she has to juggle three friggin remotes to do this. A >> logitech Harmony remote is in her future I think. :] >> > As i mentioned above, i only need to use the TV remote to turn the TV on > for all other tasks i just use the mythtv remote. A friend of mine has a > nice LCD HDTV with mythtv setup (although he only gets standard def TV); > he's TV goes into sleep mode with it's been inactive and the mythtv remote > will wake the TV up; so he only needs the one remote. >> But this just shows how complicated it can be to setup a simple >> setup. So, how do people deal with multiple inputs, remotes, >> digital/analog cable, etc. > I hope this question is somehow explained above. The remotes that > come with the hauppauge PRV cards are well supported under linux. It > took me some configuration to get it working, but i can explain that > at a later time if necessary; that is if i can remember how to do > it; it's been so long. As long as they're supported, I can deal I think. I just really really really like the Tivo remote and how it feels in the hand. And being able to use it with Myth would make my wife and kids accept it all the more easily. >> All in regards to Myth, since when my TiVo finally bites the dust, >> I'll need to put something up ASAP to keep the family happy. >> > i can understand that. It's hard to go back to watching regular TV. It's impossible. :] John

May 7, 2008

Re: [Wlug] Test needed on declared-ill Modem. Who has a lab?

by Richard Klein

Liz, I live in Clinton these days, where Verizon DSL and Comcast are the only options. Comcast is faster, but their monthly data caps made Verizon the better choice for me (not to mention my general distaste for cable companies). I recently had superficially similar problems. I went on freecycle and got someone's old DSL modem to swap for my own, to rule that out, but I got impatient and bought a new modem before I got the reply from freecycle. In any case, you probably can get another cable modem off freecycle for testing purposes. After the new modem didn't fix things, I finally called Verizon. They sent out a tech with a good "bedside" manner (he was friendly, seemed to know what he was talking about, and didn't talk down to me). He didn't find anything wrong with my signal, but he did notice the copper loop to my apartment was longer than necessary and cut down the excess at the pole. I haven't had any problems in the 2 months since. In retrospect, I think my problems were mostly on hot, humid days. -- Rich On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 7:11 PM, E Johnson <iris.gates(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Umm. Non-happy camper. ISP things have changed here, without me being > informed. Recently (2 days ago) my modem started rebooting every little > while. Zillions of T3 & T4 timouts in the modem log, Signal lavels were > perfect when it was online. I own this thing, a Motorola SB6120 purchased > late June 2010. It has not been abused. > > I am in Woosta & we all know the ISP available here. 2 techs showed up > mid-morning, to diagnose and fix this issue. One guy stood there watching; > the other guy "did stuff." They checked the signal levels on incoming line > from the box connected to the pole our back, and declared my moden Dying. > They talked to each other (not me) & seemed to think I was Granny-in-a-Box, > until they let me say more than one sentence. > > These guys also confessed that since July 202, Ch4rter does not "allow" > customers to own/run their own modems. Their consolation prize is that they > don't charge modem rental fees any more. (it's not on the bill, anyway, > FWIW). They mumbled some other mumbo jumbo and fled 5 seconds after they > learned I have my own router too, & didn't care if the modem and router were > yet in communication. They just said "better reboot" and they "no longer" > service "wireless" --which I am not running except when certain visitors > appear. I think they meant they don't diagnose routers, which has always > been the policy, and which is fine. Internal LAN issues aren't their > problem. > > So now I have a modem which may or may not be sick, but no way to test it to > make sure. Is there anyone here who can take a look at this thing & test to > see if it's Really Dying, or if Ch4rter deaded it with their latest > firmware revision of their firmware & policy change in July 2012? > > An interesting meeting theme sometime might be how to get the Verizon FIOS > in Worcester. Several years ago I watched Verizon trucks & Verizon moles > installing their fiber optics in manholes all over town. Ch4rter is running > on Verizon's infrastructure. Ch4rter internet has been working better since > then, but we're still locked out of the option to use verizon. Is this a > topic of interest to anyone? If so, I'll lead the discussion and even buy > the Pizz4. To me, this is a Large Pizza problem. > > Another interesting but probably futile discussion might center around why > we have suddenly been deprived of the ability to watch the behavior and > effectiveness of our modems, which serve internet coming from our ISP.. I > was not informed of this -- was anyone who is just a 'regular' customer? > > Meanwhile, if anyone has a test lab or whatever, where they can test my > declared-dead modem, please let me know. Otherwise it's probably a giveaway, > or another piece of Landfill Fodder. I can bring to a meeting & can wait for > results. > > Thanks & happy pizzaz, > Liz J > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >

Sept. 26, 2012

Re: [Wlug] just a bit-o-fun

by Terry Yelmene

Now I know my anonymous friend's intent, thanks for the source- Unfortunately, anything I had that played vinyl is long gone (and I have a bunch of albums I'd love to hear again!) I do think its cute though- Terry Yelmene em: tyelmene(a)3c3art.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "doug waud" <douglas.waud(a)umassmed.edu> To: <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 8:04 AM Subject: Re: [Wlug] just a bit-o-fun > Hi > > > The source for this definitely wants to remain anonymous- > > but... > > The source is Flanders and Swan, a pair of Brits who were on > the entertainment circuit years ago. They specialized in animal > songs (Hippopotamus: Mud, Mud, Glorious Mud! Nothing quite like > it for cooling the blood, so come let us follow, down to the > hollow and there let us wallow, in glorious mud! ) I have their > old 33rpm around somewhere. If you still have a player :-) > and want to hear the rest, let me know and I can dig around > and bring it in to the next WLUG meeting. > > > > I had to share it with you cause, now I'm a Gnu Too! > > A gnother gnu! (Spelling checker did not like that!) > > doug > -- > Douglas R Waud > 17 Lantern Lane, Shrewsbury, MA, 01545-2006 > http://www.ummed.edu/pub/d/drw/ > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

April 8, 2001

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