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iPAQ update

by Wesley Allen

OK, I had a great time at the meeting on Wednesday, just let me say that first off. The great thing about linux is community, and WLUG certainly has that.... Now, at this moment I'm listening to a Nickel Creek .ogg on my iPAQ using Opie's media play w/ libvorbis. It's a little unstable, but once I get a decent flash card I'll finally be able to take my music files with me.... It took a while to get to this point. I disliked wiki before, now I positively HATE it (and I think Linux Magazine is on drugs for liking it so much). Stuff is just, missing - like how to make sure your iPAQ has dns entries by copying one file.....arrrgh! I could ssh in right away, and on usb, that was the easy part; but for some reason iptables weren't working at first and I had to wipe them and start over, now I've got dns AND iptables forwarding my packets, and the ipaq is on the internet (no, I'm not writing this e-mail on it, an iPAQ, no keyboard, remember?). The only problems I have are with the todolist (it won't start), and qtopia desktop (it won't link). The todolist is missing a library, which I'll find, but the syncing issue is a pain, it just won't see it. Brad's been great and he think going up to opie unstable may solve the issue, we'll see (don't you just love debian users? They say, "Go use unstable" as if that's just what people do...). Now, when I get a tape-player or mp3 input in a car stereo I can finally ask for that microdrive for Christmas! Thanks again! Wes

21 years, 11 months

RE: [Wlug] Linux Technical Resource Kit from Novell

by Simoncini, Matthew

Glad I could be of assistance .. If you like Andy I could bring in a chicken-pot-pie for the next WLUG meeting ;o) -----Original Message----- From: Andy Stewart [mailto:andystewart@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 10:42 AM To: Worcester Linux Users Group Subject: RE: [Wlug] Linux Technical Resource Kit from Novell -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 24 June 2004 9:55 am, Simoncini, Matthew wrote: > Easy Chicken Pot Pie > > * 2 frozen pie shells > * 1 10 3/4 oz Cream of Mushroom Soup > * 1/2 cup milk > * 1 bag frozen mixed vegetables > * 2 Cups cooked chopped chicken > * 1 teaspoon minced garlic > * 1 small onion > * Coarse ground black pepper, to taste > > Preheat oven to 375 degrees. Take pie shells out of freezer, separate, > lay one pie shell flat, leaving the other in the pie pan, and thaw for > 10 minutes. Meanwhile, defrost frozen veggies in microwave, chop and > sautee onion. Mix defrosted veggies, sauteed onion, garlic, soup and > milk in large mixing bowl. Pour into pie shell, top with flattened pie > shell. Pinch edges together and poke holes in top crust. Bake for > about 30-40 minutes or until crusts are done. Now I've seen everything. :-) When PCs first came out, we were told that one good use would be to keep our recipes on them. OK, after all of these years, I have my first recipe on my hard drive due to Matt's email. Later, Andy - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFA2uhgHl0iXDssISsRAiawAJ4xIVLyiyPIDThClZAwwLqlji/ZSACfaWgR ecmNdV2KEndVl0laAZWRMik= =Xjnt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

20 years, 5 months

Re: [Wlug] Converting an iPAQ

by Wesley Allen

On Thu, 2002-09-12 at 16:29, maitre(a)ccs.neu.edu wrote: > On Thu, Sep 12, 2002 at 03:05:08PM -0400, Wesley Allen wrote: > > On Thu, 2002-09-12 at 14:41, maitre(a)ccs.neu.edu wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 12, 2002 at 01:31:27PM -0400, Wesley Allen wrote: > > > > For the last few months I've been hoping to save up some money and get a > > > > Zaurus, I don't think that it's going to happen any time soon. So, I've > > > > got an iPAQ that I can't sync, or even connect, with my linux laptop and > > > > it's beginning to get on my nerves. So, even though I've got some > > > > software on my iPAQ that I'll miss (a Bible Reader with the Greek Text > > > > and SimCity 2000), I'm thinking that it's time to take the plunge and > > > > get Linux and Qtopia on my 3835. > > > I would recommend OPIE over Qtopia. Its the fork of Qtopia. It seems to > > > making very good process. Qtopia has been quiet lately. (lately - meaning > > > the last 6 months or so) > > > > > > Bible Reader - i'm not sure there is an alternate app for that, yet > > > SimCity 2000 - There's always xbill! Nope, even did a urpmi xbill and nothing. > > > > I know of an alternative app for a BibleReader, it's the modules I'll > > miss. What's xbill? > xbill is a game that has come with every linux disto that i've tried. > It's kind of a classic linux game. > Try typing 'xbill' in a shell (while in X), and take a look > > > > > Three Questions, > > > > 1. Has anyone on the list done this, especially with this model? > > > i haven't. Mine is a 36xx. But i have gone through the install before. > > > > I know the process is the same, so... > > > > > > > > > 2. Has anyone who has done this used any of theKompany's embedded apps? > > > i have not used theKompany's apps. Which ones were you thinking of > > > using? > > > > Their ogg player for one, and a couple of other things that Shawn Gordon > > says SHOULD run on an iPAQ. I want tKc to stay in business, so I don't > > mind paying some money, for stuff like that. I like their Calendar > > better than Qtopia's or Opie's for example. Though Opie's got the > > "today" screen, great touch! Will qtopia apps run in Opie, how "forked" > > is it? > > ahhh, i see. I would like to see theKompany to stay in business as well. > Good point. > > There are a couple of calendar programs, > - theKompany's (never seen/used it) > - OPIE's and Qtopia's (believe they are pretty simaler) > - korganizer (it was ported to QTe, it has the same code base as > korganizer for KDE So they both look very similar, one is just > smaller than the other). > > Yeah, the ogg player would be nice. > > One of OPIE's goals is to be binary compatable with Qtopia, as well as > the sharp zaurus. So you should be able to run any on either Qtopia, or > OPIE the apps. > > > > > 3. Is there anyone willing to help me do this face to face? I could do > > > > this on my own, but the idea of potentially owning a $599 paperweight > > > > dims my enthusiasm when I think of going it alone. (I'll buy the > > > > coffee) > > > Perhaps, i don't know if i can make it to the next meeting or not. I > > > will be in boston that day. It's hard to say at this point whether i > > > can be back in time. > > > > Actually, I was thinking of just setting up shop in a local coffee house > > with laptop, iPAQ, and mug. How long does the install take? It might > > I'm a tea drinker ;) ... I don't remember how long it takes exacly. It > takes a few minutes to transfer all that data through a serial port. > Also i seem to remember that i took a while to make a backup image of > WinCE (16Mb of files for me, probably 32Mb of files for you). > > > > make a good meeting topic though, an "embedded linux installfest!" > > (Imagine trying THAT outside a bestbuy! > heh, intersting idea. > > -brad > > WARNING: this was not checked for spelling errors. > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > --

22 years, 3 months

Re: Dec meeting.. not the 14th! 21st or 28th?

by Althea Shaheen

I use a wireguard VPN on my phone anytime I leave my house, mainly for ad blocking. I run pi-hole at home to block ads network wide, and when I leave wifi, my phone automatically joins the VPN at home and uses the same pi-hole servers for DNS. Internet traffic is still directly through my carrier (so split tunnel) but my DNS is hidden from them and ad free! -thea On Sat, Dec 9, 2023, at 03:54, Jon "maddog" Hall via WLUG wrote: > >However, they still rely on the trust in the ownership/VPN service country's laws and policies. > >A VPN service is effectively a 'man in the middle'. > This is why everyone should train their mother to offer a secure ISP/VPN service. > "Mom's VPN: Do you trust your Mom?" > md > > On Fri, Dec 8, 2023 at 11:44 AM Kevin Stratton via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: >> VPN services are a good tool for privacy. However, they they still rely >> on the trust in the ownership/VPN service country's laws and policies. >> A VPN service is effectively a 'man in the middle'. >> >> >> On 12/8/2023 3:13 AM, Robert Schwein via WLUG wrote: >> > >> > You've pretty much hit the high points Chuck. From my own experience >> > when going overseas if I'm able to VPN to the country I'm going to, >> > the rental car reservation is considerably less in cost to reserve >> > that car than if I reserved it from state side. I'm assuming there is >> > a difference between a poor native and a rich American. >> > >> > Bob >> > >> > On 12/8/2023 12:56 AM, Chuck Anderson via WLUG wrote: >> >> On Thu, Dec 07, 2023 at 09:08:00PM -0500, Doug Mildram via WLUG wrote: >> >>> So, maybe or maybe not, that's the kind of VPN I suspect they're selling, >> >>> but I don't see the value for normal folks....or maybe anyone. (educate >> >>> me!) >> >>> Unless their hosted-server-world-route network security is a win. >> >>> Thanks for listening, and my thursday's look better than usual this month, >> >>> so hoping for WLUG virtually dec 14. -doug >> >> Yes. Those "modern" VPNs are used for many reasons. Here are a couple: >> >> >> >> - To appear to servers/services that you are physically located in a >> >> different geographical area. This can help you bypass >> >> geographically restricted content, such as watching sports programs >> >> that content owners don't want you to see based on where you live >> >> (local sports broadcast blackouts). Or trick hotels into giving you >> >> a better price--yes, hotels can hike the rates they present to you >> >> if they think you are nearby--assuming you need last-minute >> >> accomodations while you are away on vacation. >> >> >> >> - To hide your real IP address from servers and/or hide your browsing >> >> from intermediaries (your ISP for example) for privacy. This could >> >> be so you can avoid being tracked and having your browsing habits >> >> sold to advertisers (something your ISP can easily do--SSL does not >> >> hide DNS queries although that is changing with the availability of >> >> DNS-over-HTTPS and similar), to hide from authorities/copyright >> >> enforcers, or for life-and-death reasons (hide from unfriendly >> >> governments.) >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> WLUG mailing list --wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> >> To unsubscribe send an email towlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> >> Create Account:https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >> >> Change Settings:https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >> >> Web Forum/Archive:https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org… >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >> > Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >> > Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/TI4DE… >> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >> Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >> Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/2OD7Q… > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/E6KIC… >

1 year

Re: [Wlug] Question about WLUG BBQ

by Stephen C. Daukas

At 01:04 AM 7/19/2002, Andy wrote: >On Friday 19 July 2002 12:37 am, Bill Smith wrote: > > > Question: If Theo does his lecture on Anti-Spam stuff, how will that be > > done at a BBQ? (of course, one could ask how ANY computer related > > subject, shy of wireless networking, could be done at a BBQ!) [snip] >Last time we had a BBQ, about a dozen people showed up, so something like the >aforementioned might work in that case. If, however, about 30 people showed >up(!), this idea probably wouldn't work so well. I'm not sure if Doug (WLUG >BBQ host) has a 60" projection screen TV that he could connect to his >laptop. >If we asked him, maybe he'd buy one for the occasion. :-) I have a projector, or I should say I have access to one, that I can plug a laptop into. Doug and I were trying to figure where to project and onto what, and we do have some ideas in mind (generated fog, multiple sprinklers, side of house, bed sheets, et al.). In fact, I think we should use the projector regardless of how many attend - it will be easier for all to see. However, I doubt either of us would mention this to his wife, so buying a 60"+ HDTV, for example, is not entirely ruled out! ;-) If there are any unforeseen issues, my place would be backup, and there is high-speed Internet at both locations, so that shouldn't be an issue (But Doug has a pool!). Given the appropriate technology, like building on the wireless stuff we did this week, it shouldn't matter where the meeting is held (distractions like food and drink aside!). Steve

22 years, 5 months

Re: [Wlug] Portable MP3 (and ogg) players and Linux

by Mike Leo

my only advise is to stay away from the iPod Shuffle....i got my for free, and it almost isn't worth that much. --- Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > HI gang, > > I'm starting to investigate the purchase of a new > toy - a portable music > player. My preferences would be: > > - - flash, not hard drive, based > - - standard batteries (AA,AAA, etc) > - - works reasonably well with Linux > - - plays ogg (nice but not necessary - aren't the > files smaller than mp3) > - - plays mp3 > > I currently have a perfectly functional RioVolt 250 > and my only > complaint is that it is quite bulky relative to what > is available today. > > I was considering some of the offerings by iRiver, > as there seems to be > some support by the Linux community. > > Does anybody own an iRiver flash based player, and > what is your > experience with it? > > Does anybody have other recommendations in this > area? > > Maybe we should make this the topic of a meeting??? > > Thanks, > > Andy > > - -- > Andy Stewart, Founder > Worcester Linux Users' Group > Worcester, MA, USA > http://www.wlug.org > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - > http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFC6s8qHl0iXDssISsRAm6QAJ92gZGJWjLnEHGHJejWuZiAhTZh0QCfcQpz > 3EJaVxol5W6btG6a+4sRk8Y= > =NZnt > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

19 years, 4 months

Re: [Wlug] How fast is your CD burner with Linux ?

by Robert L Krawitz

Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 19:52:17 -0400 From: Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> I asked this question at the most recent WLUG meeting. I've noticed that my CD burner (according to K3B) averages about 24X, even though it is advertised as a 48X CD burner. Is this to be expected, or do I have a cheap(er) drive that can't sustain the data rate? It is an IDE/ATAPI drive (NEC3550). It takes approx. 4 minutes for me to burn a 700MB CD (including some fiddling and diddling about calibrating power, fixating, etc). I use Memorex CD-R media (52X, 700MB, 80 min). I'm curious about your CD buring experiences, especially if they are faster than mine. I'd like to know what drive you have, the media you use, and most importantly, how did you determine your drive speed? CD's burn faster (in MB/sec) near the outside of the disc than near the inside, and they're burned from inside out. So they're always going to start slow and speed up. I have a 48x drive, and if I'm burning a full disc (where the CD is capable of that) it reaches something close to that near the end of the disc. At the beginning it's more like 16x; it averages maybe 25-30x for the whole disc, exclusive of fixating, power calibration, etc. 4 minutes net for a 700 MB CD sounds about right to me. -- Robert Krawitz <rlk(a)alum.mit.edu> Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2 Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail lpf(a)uunet.uu.net Project lead for Gutenprint -- http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works." --Eric Crampton

18 years, 8 months

Re: [Wlug] Please attend this Wednesday's WLUG, and bring your friends

by Mike

Doug, Thanks for the talk tonight. I had mentioned to you a tool named Ant. I figured I'd follow up and give you some more info. Ant can be found at: http://ant.apache.org/ As I had mentioned Ant has some similarities to 'make'. Here is an example of an build.xml file that can perform an XML Transformation. <project default="transform"> <target name="init"> <input message="Input XML: " addproperty="input"/> <input message="Output XML: " addproperty="output"/> <input message="Style: " addproperty="style"/> </target> <target name="transform" depends="init"> <echo message="Transforming ${input} to ${output} with ${style}"/> <xslt style="${style}" in="${input}" out="${output}"/> </target> </project> Hope that is useful. Cheers, Mike <quote who="douglas.r.aker(a)verizon.com"> > Hi All: > > Just wanted to let everyone know that I'm working hard to make my preso at > this Wednesday's WLUG meeting (October 11) interesting, informative, > innovative. Something different, without being annoying. > > Bring any of your friends that might be interested in data visualization, > web design, XML, SVG, etc. > > During the preso, interrupt me with questions as much as you want, and > make a mental note where my presentation isn't clear or drags. I'm hoping > to get as much feedback as possible so that the next time I present this > topic it will be better. > > Thanks, > Doug_______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security --Ben Franklin

18 years, 2 months

Re: [Wlug] [Fwd: Re: Tutor / irc / newbie]

by Eric Martin

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Unfortunately I'm not teaching that class right now as I'm going back to school myself. Is there anything in specific he's interested in? Andy Stewart wrote: > d.maly(a)ieee.org wrote: >>> Andy, >>> >>> I also sent this message to WLUG but didn't see it in the > Digest. Would >>> like to see it included because it has more detailed info. >>> >>> Thanks, Doug > > Hi Doug, > > Since you cc'd the list, it should appear in the digest shortly. > If it does not, please let me know and I'll investigate. > > I believe that the Night Life program in Worcester offers a class > in Linux, taught by a WLUG member. However, I don't know what > Night Life's policy is regarding a student's age. In addition, The > Town of Chelmsford has a Community Education program which offers > Linux classes (taught by another WLUG member), but that's probably > too far away for you. > > Finally, you're always welcome to attend a WLUG meeting in > Worcester. We're open to all ages and ability levels. Keep an eye > on the meeting postings in case something of interest comes along. > > Later, > > Andy > >>> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Tutor / irc >>> / newbie Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 13:07:10 -0400 From: >>> d.maly(a)ieee.org <d_maly(a)charter.net> To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>> References: >>> <mailman.1.1150819203.28678.wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >>> >>> >>> >>> The tutor is for my son. I have managed to keep our two > computers up to >>> date -- am now running Ubuntu 6.04. I want to teach more to my >>> > son, but >>> am getting beyond my abilities. I have some administrative >>> work > ... I >>> need to share resources, find some drivers ... then move onto > setting up >>> an email server. From there I have some applications I want to >>> start setting up, like a video editor and ham radio apps. >>> >>> Thanks for the links, they are new to me. >>> >>> I had problems with IRC, which I have not used before. I made >>> it to http://freenode.net/faq.shtml I got NickServ to look like >>> it was alive in GAIM. However, in the previous link, the >>> section about registering said this: Register your IRC nick: >>> >>> */msg nickserv register <your-password>* >>> >>> and I don't know what to do with this. Can you send this to >>> NickServ through GAIM?? Also, the command seems to be >>> registering a > nickname ... >>> but the register command is followed only by a password ... no > mention >>> of username/nickname. >>> >>> Thanks, Doug >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 2 Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 11:32:17 -0700 (PDT) From: >>>> Mike Leo <mleo963(a)yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Wlug] Tutor for >>>> Teenager To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> >>>> Message-ID: >>>> <20060619183217.36816.qmail(a)web51309.mail.yahoo.com> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >>>> >>>> are you the newbie? >>>> >>>> not sure what you are looking for, but >>> http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz is a good read. >>> >>>> I also hang out at www.justlinux.com, and irc.freenode.net > #justlinux >>> and irc.oftc.net >>> >>>> #penguinslair. >>>> >>>> many people will also stear you towards www.google.com/linux >>>> as > well as >>> http://forums.gentoo.org/ >>> >>>> are you looking for an actual linux class to attend, or just > advise on >>> how to get started? >>> >>>> let use know more specifically what you are looking for and >>>> I'm sure >>> someone here can help you >>> >>>> out. >>>> >>>> mike >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --- "d.maly(a)ieee.org" <d_maly(a)charter.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------- Can anyone recommend alinux >>>> tutor for a teenager newbie? Doug Maly >>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ Wlug >>>>> mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>>>> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >>>>> >>>> >>> > > > -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, > MA, USA http://www.wlug.org > > _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFEmyOPaI8VEtSi4H8RAqtRAKDPVLvfrMyGG7pe+nvTyL9+PiGK1wCguuFn SJhZclY9DdRfqCuBjaAF1hA= =FKwQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

18 years, 5 months

Re: [Wlug] Wireless mesh network question

by Frank Sweetser

As long as all of the APs are on either matching or non-overlapping channels, you should be fine. In practice, this means you'll get the best overall throughput by evenly distributing them across channels 1, 6, and 11. You *might* be able to get away with channel 14 (this is outside of the normal part 15 regs, but you can probably legally get away with it since you're licensed), but you may have strange results if you're trying to have standard wifi clients connecting to them, as some of them are set up only for US options and won't look at that channel at all. Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that Manager of Network Operations | is simple, elegant, and wrong. Worcester Polytechnic Institute | - HL Mencken On 02/16/2015 11:39 AM, Andy Stewart wrote: > > HI guys, > > I am planning to setup a wireless mesh network at a ham radio event in June. > > Each mesh node will consist of two Linksys WRT54GLs, much like the demo > I showed at a recent WLUG meeting. > > One of the WRT54GLs will be on channel 6 and carry mesh network traffic. > The other one will be on channel 1 and allow generic wifi devices > access to the mesh network. > > It seems like there would be an interference problem if every node > allowed wifi access on channel 1. Should this be 4 different wifi > channels? It is possible for a user to be within radio range of > multiple of them simultaneously. > > Thoughts? I've never setup a wireless network before and could use your > advice. These mesh nodes will be placed outside in weatherproof > enclosures with battery power. > > Thanks! > > Andy >

9 years, 10 months

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