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Re: [EXT] The future of WLUG

by Tim Keller

I've gotten a couple of hits about people possibly showing up for the next WLUG meeting from meetup. That's cool! I went looking at the Boston Linux Users Group site and it's clear to me that we're really missing the boat with putting our meetings on youtube, well at least the ones with a definite presenter. Would people be freaked out about being on youtube? Is this something that people would be interested in? I've got a decent DSLR we could use to take video, but I don't want people to be uncomfortable. Tim. On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 1:41 PM <joshua.gage.stone(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Tim, > > Thank you very much for creating a meetup.com group for us! The UX for > finding future meetups and adding meetup dates to a calender is quite good. > Finding WLUG should also be fairly easy now when searching for "linux" > within a 50 mile radius of Boston: > > > https://www.meetup.com/find/?allMeetups=false&keywords=linux&radius=50&user… > > I've noticed that some search strings will show LUGs with overlapping > interests but not WLUG. I think adding more words like "FOSS", "Android", > "Libre", "Open Source", "Ubuntu", "Fedora", "OpenSUSE", "Arch Linux", > "Unix", etc, to the related topics and/or What We're About section should > improve this. > > I've tried setting up a community over Slack but I think the steps need to > join was what made it too intrusive for new people -- take joining the Rust > language Slack server for example: > > https://rust-slack.herokuapp.com/ > > - Send an invite link to your email > - Register with a name and password > - Be greeted with prompts about whether to send notifications > - Open the #general channel > > And this has to be repeated for joining every community that has their own > Slack server, or at least this has been my experience so far. I think Slack > has cemented itself as more of a means for teams to collaborate on a > project, not so much for casual users who want to jump right into a new > chat. > > Matrix only needs to register a username and password (email is optional) > on the server you're on, and once that's done you can join any number of > channels on that server. This is much closer to the UX of IRC, and it's > still superior in some ways because there's no fiddling with choosing a > specific authentication method like SASL and/or authenticating with nickserv > > I think in general Matrix has more mindshare amongst Linux users as a > modern alternative to IRC, which I think is worth considering when > comparing frequency of posts on Reddit: > > > https://old.reddit.com/r/linux/search?q=matrix&restrict_sr=on&sort=relevanc… > > -Josh > > On Sat, 2020-01-11 at 22:59 -0500, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote: > > This morning I went out and created a meetup group for WLUG: > https://www.meetup.com/Worcester-Linux-Users-Group and paid for six > months. Feel free to go and join up if you'd like. > > The matrix stuff is cool, I cut my teeth on IRC so I'm always partial to > the old school but I also understand that eventually we'll want a slack > channel as well maybe. > > Tim. > > > > On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 4:07 PM Anderson, Charles R via WLUG < > wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > > We also have an IRC channel: > > http://www.wlug.org/participate.html > > Internet Relay Chat > > Join the realtime chat on our IRC channel. > > Connect your IRC client to irc.freenode.net > Join the #wlug-ma channel or join directly from this link: irc:// > irc.freenode.net/#wlug-ma. > See more information about Freenode and join the chat from your web > browser > > but maybe IRC is too old school--no one chats on it anymore. > > On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 04:03:14PM -0500, Joshua Stone via WLUG wrote: > > Hey all, > > > > Last night's meeting was excellent, and I'd like say thanks again to > > Tim for giving me a ride home! > > > > Last night's discussion gave me ideas of ways we could improve general > > activity, increase attendence, and improve outreach efforts. Hosting a > > meetup.com group would be certainly improve discoverability, and > > getting in touch with WPI's computer science group would be great too. > > > > I think what a lot communities are doing nowadays is having a text chat > > format for users who want to communicate more easily over the internet, > > especially with mobile devices. As an example, there are Discord > > servers for Fedora, Ubuntu, OpenSUSE, etc, and they have room sizes > > generally in the hundreds or even well over a thousand. Even before > > Discord they'd use IRC for providing support, posting updates, etc. > > > > Having a text chat of our own would certainly help improve > > participation -- I think Matrix would be a good option here because it > > has many nice features and has a fairly polished user experience: > > > > - Numerous clients available on desktop, mobile, and web ( > > https://matrix.org/clients/ > > - Persistent chat history > > - Link previews > > - Various bots to choose from for adding functionality ( > > https://matrix.org/docs/projects/bots/ > > - User moderation > > - Server federation > > - Self-hosting available, both client and server are completely FOSS > > - File sharing > > - Voice/video calls > > > > > > I have a screenshot if anyone wants to see what a Matrix chat room > > would look like: > > > > https://i.imgur.com/aVILcWB.png > > > > Or you can join the room I made: > > > > https://matrix.to/#/!EiTljkvagZDFKfQfFu:matrix.org?via=matrix.org > > > > Alteratively, if you have a Matrix client already: > > > > #wlug:matrix.org > > > > > > > > Any thoughts? > > > > > > -Josh > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > WLUG mailing list -- > > wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > > > To unsubscribe send an email to > > wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > > > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Jan. 15, 2020

Re: Stuck in traffic

by John Stoffel

>>>>> "Althea" == Althea Shaheen <lists(a)altheashaheen.com> writes: > I would love to hear more from you John about what your experience > is with TrueNAS Enterprise versus NetApp, as I am looking at the > same options myself. We have used NetApp for longer than I have been > around but the cost of it is a whole different level than what I > imagine TrueNAS would be. I've used Scale personally and Core for > backup systems at work, but the HA/failover is what I am most > curious about if we went the route of Enterprise. With Netapp... it's solid. Rock solid. It just works. Failover works, no interrupptions with clients. It's really really really solid. I love them. And you can split things up and add tons of VLANs, volumes, etc. Snapshots, ESX integration if you want to go that route, etc. But it's not cheap. You pay for what you get. It's annoying that they now do capacity based licensing. TrueNAS. It's easy enough to use (though the CLI sucks, I've got a bunch of scripts to pull data out using the API with python). I'm using the legacy 13.0 Enterprise BSD based stuff. TrueNAS recently moved to the linux based SCALE edition, but I have no experience with it. So far performance is good, it's ZFS, and it just runs. But we're not putting it under huge performance stress, so I can't talk to how well it scales or performs. I've used Netapps for 26+) years now. Super solid systems. I love how you can grow/shrink volumes (NFS/CIFS) on the fly. No hassles. TrueNAS is fixed volumes you can expand only. So you need to look at Scale Enterprise and see what they will quote you for support, and maybe you can get in a test system to see how failover works. In my case, since TrueNAS Enterprise is Active/Passive, failover takes too long in my book. Sorry, this reply is all over the place as I free associate my reply. > On Fri, Oct 11, 2024, at 09:36, John Stoffel via WLUG wrote: >>>>>>> "Tim" == Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: >> >>> I'm currently stuck in traffic I should be there for about 7:10 >> >> So how did the meeting go? Any comments or thoughts on ZFS and how >> it's useful and how it can be abused? >> >> I'm using ZFS on a TrueNAS Enterprise cluster, which works, but has >> it's issues, mostly around failover speed. Been spoiled by Netapps >> for too many years. >> >> I've also managed to make Oracle branded ZFS appliances fall over due >> to load, so I have reservations about ZFS to this day. >> >> I do like the *ideas* behind it, and some of the powerful features it >> has. But the layering violations make me worry. >> >> Just go look at the problems btrfs has had trying to do it's own RAID5 >> instead of just layering on top of MD RAID5 (which I also admit has had >> problems too! Nothing is perfect...). >> >> The goals of ZFS in terms of file content checksums are awesome, I >> really like that. I just wish there was a better way to actually >> shrink ZFS filesystems (even if done as any offline process) without >> jumping through all kinds of hoops. >> >> Anyway, I hope to see you all at the next meeting! >> John >> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >> Change Settings: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >> Web Forum/Archive: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/SQAQ6…

Oct. 11, 2024

Reminder: BBQ this Thursday August 12 6pm, Boylston, MA

by Chuck Anderson

Consider this your reminder for the BBQ this Thursday! Rain or shine, we're on. I'm told that the mosquitos are non-existant this year! On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 11:08:30AM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: > Hi WLUG members, > > It's that time a year again for the WLUG BBQ! Thanks to Doug Mildram > for hosting again this year. We will be holding the BBQ on the > scheduled date of our next meeting, but starting at 6pm: > > Thursday, August 12 at 6:00 PM > > Doug has provided these directions and contact information: > > For Worcester area: > > http://webpages.charter.net/mquinty/directions/boylston_from_auburn_worc_29… > > From the Northwest such as Leominster: > > http://webpages.charter.net/mquinty/directions/boylston_from_rte2_lancaster… > > From anywhere via 495: > > http://webpages.charter.net/mquinty/directions/boylston_from_495+62.txt > > WLUG will supply burgers, hot dogs, rolls/buns, condiments, paper > products, soda, etc. BYOB, dessert, and other food/snack items as you > like. > > Please email Doug (dmildram(a)gmail.com) with any questions. > > I look forward to seeing everyone there! > Chuck

Aug. 9, 2010

Re: [Wlug] ZFS on Linux vs. BTRFS or stick with EXT4?

by Jeff Moyer

Chuck Anderson <cra(a)WPI.EDU> writes: > I'm migrating to new large drives and would lke to take advantage of a > filesystem that has integrated data and metadata checksums. How well > does ZFS on Linux really work? What is the current status of BTRFS? > Which one would you trust your precious data to? I've been out of the > loop lately... This would be a great meeting topic! "How to set up > ZFS on Linux and/or BTRFS". Any takers? I wouldn't trust my data to btrfs, especially if you're using anything other than the default mkfs and mount options. But don't take my word for it, have a look through the btrfs mailing list archives[1]. I have no experience with zfs on linux, but I've heard that data checksums have a signficant performance impact. I don't have any data on that, so you should probably do your own benchmarking to verify things perform well enough for your workload. If I were you, I'd use xfs. Cheers, Jeff [1] http://marc.info/?l=linux-btrfs

April 29, 2015

Re: [Wlug] Book list with names.

by Randall Mason

I would like the hacking books. Randall Mason randall(a)mason.ch On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Sebastian Courtney < sebastian.courtney(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Unfortunately I must a tend a wake tonight so I will not make the meeting. > Feel free to disperse the books I wanted to others. > See you all at the next meeting, > Sebastian > > > On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> It's yours! >> >> >> >> On 8/15/09, Eric Martin <freak4uxxx(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> > I would like to claim "Web Hacking: Attacks and Defense" as it looks >> > like nobody else has yet. >> > >> > >> >> Hacking / Security Books: >> >> "Secrets of a super hacker" by The Knightmare. >> >> [S. Courtney] "Hackers Challenge: Test Your Incident Response Skills >> >> Using 20 Scenarios" (3rd Edition) >> >> [S. Courtney] "Hacking Exposed: Network Security Secrets & Solutions" >> > "Web Hacking: Attacks and Defense" >> >> >> >> Math Books: >> >> [Frank Moody] "Discrete Mathematics and Its Applications" by Kenneth H. >> >> Rosen >> >> [Frank Moody] "Languages and Machines" Thomas A Sudkamp >> >> [Alex Haley] "A Primer for Calculus" >> >> >> >> Misc: >> >> [Alex Haley] "Latex" Second edition >> >> [Frank Moody] "The Latex Companion" >> >> [Frank Moody] "Mips RISC Architecture" >> >> "Database Systems" >> >> "Creating Web Pages with HTML" (3rd edition) >> >> [Frank Moody] "Operating Systems: Design and Implementation": Tanenbaum >> >> (includes Minux 2.0 disk!!) >> >> [Frank Moody] "PCI System Architecture" (Third Edition) >> >> >> >> Programming Books: >> >> [Alex Haley] "The C Primer" Third edition (this book is a bit dog >> eared) >> >> [Alex Haley] "A First Book of Ansi C" (a bit dog eared but excellent) >> >> "Tricks of the Game Programming Gurus" >> >> "Practical Programming in Tcl and Tk" >> >> "Virtual Reality Playhouse" >> >> "Creating Turbo C++ Games" (The disk for this book is long lost) >> >> [Keith Wright] "Linux Kernel Programming" (Third Edition) >> >> "Using Java 1.1" (Third Edition) >> >> "Using JavaBeans" (CD Long gone) >> >> [S. Courtney] "Sams' Teach Yourself C++ in 21 Days" (Second Edition) >> >> "Beginning Fedora 2" (Yeah it's 8 versions behind, but as a beginners >> >> guide to red hat linux systems, it's great) >> >> "User Interfaces In C++ And Object-Oriented Programming" by Mark >> Goodwin >> >> "Gardens of Imagination: Programming 3d Maze Games in C/C++" (Disk long >> >> gone) >> >> "NetWarriors In C Programming 3d Multiplaery games" (CD Long gone) >> >> [Ryan Pugatch] "Programming perl" (O'Reilly) >> >> [Ryan Pugatch] "Learning Perl" (O'Reilly) >> >> [Ryan Pugatch] "Perl by Example" (Ellie Quigley) >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Tim. >> > -- >> > Eric Martin >> > Key fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F >> > >> > >> >> -- >> Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com >> >> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >> constituents as "consumers". >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > > > -- > Sebastian Courtney > WPI 2012 > ECE+RBE > 617-894-2460 > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

Aug. 20, 2009

Re: [Wlug] ZFS on Linux vs. BTRFS or stick with EXT4?

by Chuck Anderson

Hi Jeff, its nice to provoke a response out of you...when are you coming to a meeting? :-) On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 09:40:09AM -0400, Jeff Moyer wrote: > I wouldn't trust my data to btrfs, especially if you're using anything > other than the default mkfs and mount options. But don't take my word > for it, have a look through the btrfs mailing list archives[1]. I see what you mean. People are still asking questions "how do I fix this broken fs?" and being told to upgrade to linux kernel 4.0. > I have no experience with zfs on linux, but I've heard that data > checksums have a signficant performance impact. I don't have any data > on that, so you should probably do your own benchmarking to verify > things perform well enough for your workload. > > If I were you, I'd use xfs. I don't like XFS because it can't be shrunk in place. Too many times I've needed to shrink one LV to make space for another LV.

April 29, 2015

Re: Wlug meeting on Thurs. Dec 10th 2020 @7pm.

by Chuck Anderson

This might not be as bad as it initially sounds. Centos Stream will consist of rolling updates that start from what will become each RHEL point release to what will become the the next RHEL point release, so for example from RHEL 8.1 to 8.2 to 8.3 etc. In fact, Centos 6, 7, and 8 already is a "forced" minor upgrade every quarter or so since they stop supporting x.y after RHEL x.y+1 comes out and your normal system yum updates just migrate you to the newer x.y+1 anyway. This is in contrast to how RHEL itself works, or how Scientific Linux used to work, where you actually have to take explicit action to upgrade to a new point release either using new install media or manual "yum" commands. See for example: https://scientificlinux.org/documentation/faq/faq-releases/ And here is what one of my Centos 7 systems looks like: >cat /etc/centos-release CentOS Linux release 7.9.2009 (Core) >rpm -qf /etc/centos-release centos-release-7-9.2009.1.el7.centos.x86_64 >rpm -qi centos-release Name : centos-release Version : 7 Release : 9.2009.1.el7.centos Architecture: x86_64 Install Date: Thu 03 Dec 2020 07:27:24 AM EST .. See how the Centos 7.9.2009 release package was installed this month? Previously, I had older versions of that package: >sudo grep centos-release /var/log/yum.log* /var/log/yum.log:Nov 13 08:46:49 Updated: centos-release.x86_64 7-9.2009.0.el7.centos /var/log/yum.log:Dec 03 07:27:24 Updated: centos-release.x86_64 7-9.2009.1.el7.centos /var/log/yum.log-20181204:Jul 30 14:47:20 Updated: centos-release-7-5.1804.el7.centos.2.x86_64 /var/log/yum.log-20181204:Aug 14 12:15:35 Updated: centos-release-7-5.1804.4.el7.centos.x86_64 /var/log/yum.log-20181204:Oct 10 05:45:04 Updated: centos-release.x86_64 7-5.1804.5.el7.centos /var/log/yum.log-20181204:Dec 04 07:19:18 Updated: centos-release.x86_64 7-6.1810.2.el7.centos /var/log/yum.log-20200428:Jan 08 09:08:24 Updated: centos-release-7-7.1908.0.el7.centos.x86_64 /var/log/yum.log-20200428:Apr 28 07:47:22 Updated: centos-release.x86_64 7-8.2003.0.el7.centos So over the years, this server got upgraded automatically from Centos 7.5 to 7.6 to 7.7 to 7.9. I have nightly automatic "yum updates" turned on, so it just gets updates as they come out and I reboot the server once every so often so the updates get fully applied (new kernels, new shared libraries). The difference with Centos Stream is you'll get updates continually /before/ RHEL releases it eventually as a "snapshot in time" called RHEL x.y+1. Sure, they won't be as heavily tested as RHEL point releases, but if you really need/want that, then you can either buy RHEL or stage your Centos Stream updates from TEST-->STAGE-->PROD, and/or stagger them across your PROD systems to minimize impact. On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 02:59:30PM -0500, Tim Keller wrote: > I've got a fair amount of centos in production... this sucks... guess I'm > going to Debian now... > > On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 9:10 AM Frank Sweetser via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > wrote: > > > And for anyone looking to contribute to Greg's efforts: > > > > https://github.com/hpcng/rocky > > > > On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 11:23 PM Chuck Anderson via WLUG < > > wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > > > >> My favorite comment on that post: > >> > >> "Gregory Kurtzer says: > >> December 8, 2020 at 4:27 pm > >> > >> I am considering creating another rebuild of RHEL and may even be able > >> to hire some people for this effort. If you are interested in helping, > >> please join the HPCng slack (link on the website hpcng.org) > >> > >> Greg > >> (original founder of CentOS)" > >> > >> On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 10:35:24PM -0500, Frank Sweetser via WLUG wrote: > >> > Well, there's plenty talk about for CentOS users, like what you're > >> going to > >> > switch to now that CentOS is becoming something completely different: > >> > > >> > https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/

Dec. 9, 2020

Re: [Wlug] SuSE 9.2 (x86/x86_64) needs a new home.

by Mike Leo

Hi....www.wlug.org says the next meeting is Wednesday, July 14th....there is no Wednesday July 14th this year. One of our calendars is wrong....hope its not mine! thanks mike --- Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Stephen C. Daukas wrote: > > I have a Technical Resource Kit (SUSE - Novell > 2004 DVDs 1A-1C) with all > > sorts of goodies. > > > > Let the bidding begin! ;-) > > What is in the Technical Resource Kit that differs > from SuSE Linux > Professional? > > Later, > > Andy > > > - -- > Andy Stewart, Founder > Worcester Linux Users' Group > Worcester, MA, USA > http://www.wlug.org > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - > http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFC1ZvMHl0iXDssISsRAk+mAJ4szR6aPvLXuEPTu+fT/GDaM5iFgwCfS54S > C707mvC+jwyrVRhd58VAa7Q= > =cobp > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

July 14, 2005

RE: [Wlug] Free Stuff

by Marc Hughes

just you for the case + motherboard ... a bunch for the ipx. -Marc -----Original Message----- From: Michael Frysinger [mailto:vapier@WPI.EDU] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:42 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Free Stuff any takers on the PC case/p233/sun sparc ipx ? -mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marc Hughes" <HughesM(a)TOMSNYDER.com> To: <wlug(a)wlug.org> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:22 AM Subject: [Wlug] Free Stuff > I want to reduce the amount of stuff in my apartment, so I have free > stuff to give away: > > 1) Sun Sparc IPX > 2) Sun monitor (16" I think ... But it's huge) > 3) Full tower PC case ... No power supply > 4) Compaq 286 Laptop ... It works! > 5) Super Nintendo (controllers, games, etc) > 6) Pentium 233 + motherboard > > I'll bring all of it to the meeting, if you want something email me. If > lots of people want any of those items, I'll ask Andy to raffle them > off. > > -Marc > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Jan. 15, 2002

Re: [Wlug] ZFS on Linux vs. BTRFS or stick with EXT4?

by Tim Keller

Since I use zfs on a daily basis, I'd be glad to talk about it. How big are these drives? While you can use zfs as your boot FS, I think I'd stick with lvm/ext4 for / and / boot. I'd then carve out a big data space and use zfs for that. Are these disks going to raided? Thanks, Tim. On Tuesday, April 28, 2015, Chuck Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > I'm migrating to new large drives and would lke to take advantage of a > filesystem that has integrated data and metadata checksums. How well > does ZFS on Linux really work? What is the current status of BTRFS? > Which one would you trust your precious data to? I've been out of the > loop lately... This would be a great meeting topic! "How to set up > ZFS on Linux and/or BTRFS". Any takers? > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

April 29, 2015

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