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Reminder: BBQ this Thursday August 12 6pm, Boylston, MA

by Chuck Anderson

Consider this your reminder for the BBQ this Thursday! Rain or shine, we're on. I'm told that the mosquitos are non-existant this year! On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 11:08:30AM -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: > Hi WLUG members, > > It's that time a year again for the WLUG BBQ! Thanks to Doug Mildram > for hosting again this year. We will be holding the BBQ on the > scheduled date of our next meeting, but starting at 6pm: > > Thursday, August 12 at 6:00 PM > > Doug has provided these directions and contact information: > > For Worcester area: > > http://webpages.charter.net/mquinty/directions/boylston_from_auburn_worc_29… > > From the Northwest such as Leominster: > > http://webpages.charter.net/mquinty/directions/boylston_from_rte2_lancaster… > > From anywhere via 495: > > http://webpages.charter.net/mquinty/directions/boylston_from_495+62.txt > > WLUG will supply burgers, hot dogs, rolls/buns, condiments, paper > products, soda, etc. BYOB, dessert, and other food/snack items as you > like. > > Please email Doug (dmildram(a)gmail.com) with any questions. > > I look forward to seeing everyone there! > Chuck

15 years, 4 months

Re: [Wlug] ZFS on Linux vs. BTRFS or stick with EXT4?

by Jeff Moyer

Chuck Anderson <cra(a)WPI.EDU> writes: > I'm migrating to new large drives and would lke to take advantage of a > filesystem that has integrated data and metadata checksums. How well > does ZFS on Linux really work? What is the current status of BTRFS? > Which one would you trust your precious data to? I've been out of the > loop lately... This would be a great meeting topic! "How to set up > ZFS on Linux and/or BTRFS". Any takers? I wouldn't trust my data to btrfs, especially if you're using anything other than the default mkfs and mount options. But don't take my word for it, have a look through the btrfs mailing list archives[1]. I have no experience with zfs on linux, but I've heard that data checksums have a signficant performance impact. I don't have any data on that, so you should probably do your own benchmarking to verify things perform well enough for your workload. If I were you, I'd use xfs. Cheers, Jeff [1] http://marc.info/?l=linux-btrfs

10 years, 8 months

Re: [Wlug] ZFS on Linux vs. BTRFS or stick with EXT4?

by Chuck Anderson

Hi Jeff, its nice to provoke a response out of you...when are you coming to a meeting? :-) On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 09:40:09AM -0400, Jeff Moyer wrote: > I wouldn't trust my data to btrfs, especially if you're using anything > other than the default mkfs and mount options. But don't take my word > for it, have a look through the btrfs mailing list archives[1]. I see what you mean. People are still asking questions "how do I fix this broken fs?" and being told to upgrade to linux kernel 4.0. > I have no experience with zfs on linux, but I've heard that data > checksums have a signficant performance impact. I don't have any data > on that, so you should probably do your own benchmarking to verify > things perform well enough for your workload. > > If I were you, I'd use xfs. I don't like XFS because it can't be shrunk in place. Too many times I've needed to shrink one LV to make space for another LV.

10 years, 8 months

Re: [Wlug] Book list with names.

by Randall Mason

I would like the hacking books. Randall Mason randall(a)mason.ch On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Sebastian Courtney < sebastian.courtney(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Unfortunately I must a tend a wake tonight so I will not make the meeting. > Feel free to disperse the books I wanted to others. > See you all at the next meeting, > Sebastian > > > On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> It's yours! >> >> >> >> On 8/15/09, Eric Martin <freak4uxxx(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> > I would like to claim "Web Hacking: Attacks and Defense" as it looks >> > like nobody else has yet. >> > >> > >> >> Hacking / Security Books: >> >> "Secrets of a super hacker" by The Knightmare. >> >> [S. Courtney] "Hackers Challenge: Test Your Incident Response Skills >> >> Using 20 Scenarios" (3rd Edition) >> >> [S. Courtney] "Hacking Exposed: Network Security Secrets & Solutions" >> > "Web Hacking: Attacks and Defense" >> >> >> >> Math Books: >> >> [Frank Moody] "Discrete Mathematics and Its Applications" by Kenneth H. >> >> Rosen >> >> [Frank Moody] "Languages and Machines" Thomas A Sudkamp >> >> [Alex Haley] "A Primer for Calculus" >> >> >> >> Misc: >> >> [Alex Haley] "Latex" Second edition >> >> [Frank Moody] "The Latex Companion" >> >> [Frank Moody] "Mips RISC Architecture" >> >> "Database Systems" >> >> "Creating Web Pages with HTML" (3rd edition) >> >> [Frank Moody] "Operating Systems: Design and Implementation": Tanenbaum >> >> (includes Minux 2.0 disk!!) >> >> [Frank Moody] "PCI System Architecture" (Third Edition) >> >> >> >> Programming Books: >> >> [Alex Haley] "The C Primer" Third edition (this book is a bit dog >> eared) >> >> [Alex Haley] "A First Book of Ansi C" (a bit dog eared but excellent) >> >> "Tricks of the Game Programming Gurus" >> >> "Practical Programming in Tcl and Tk" >> >> "Virtual Reality Playhouse" >> >> "Creating Turbo C++ Games" (The disk for this book is long lost) >> >> [Keith Wright] "Linux Kernel Programming" (Third Edition) >> >> "Using Java 1.1" (Third Edition) >> >> "Using JavaBeans" (CD Long gone) >> >> [S. Courtney] "Sams' Teach Yourself C++ in 21 Days" (Second Edition) >> >> "Beginning Fedora 2" (Yeah it's 8 versions behind, but as a beginners >> >> guide to red hat linux systems, it's great) >> >> "User Interfaces In C++ And Object-Oriented Programming" by Mark >> Goodwin >> >> "Gardens of Imagination: Programming 3d Maze Games in C/C++" (Disk long >> >> gone) >> >> "NetWarriors In C Programming 3d Multiplaery games" (CD Long gone) >> >> [Ryan Pugatch] "Programming perl" (O'Reilly) >> >> [Ryan Pugatch] "Learning Perl" (O'Reilly) >> >> [Ryan Pugatch] "Perl by Example" (Ellie Quigley) >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Tim. >> > -- >> > Eric Martin >> > Key fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F >> > >> > >> >> -- >> Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com >> >> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >> constituents as "consumers". >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > > > -- > Sebastian Courtney > WPI 2012 > ECE+RBE > 617-894-2460 > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

16 years, 4 months

Re: Wlug meeting on Thurs. Dec 10th 2020 @7pm.

by Chuck Anderson

This might not be as bad as it initially sounds. Centos Stream will consist of rolling updates that start from what will become each RHEL point release to what will become the the next RHEL point release, so for example from RHEL 8.1 to 8.2 to 8.3 etc. In fact, Centos 6, 7, and 8 already is a "forced" minor upgrade every quarter or so since they stop supporting x.y after RHEL x.y+1 comes out and your normal system yum updates just migrate you to the newer x.y+1 anyway. This is in contrast to how RHEL itself works, or how Scientific Linux used to work, where you actually have to take explicit action to upgrade to a new point release either using new install media or manual "yum" commands. See for example: https://scientificlinux.org/documentation/faq/faq-releases/ And here is what one of my Centos 7 systems looks like: >cat /etc/centos-release CentOS Linux release 7.9.2009 (Core) >rpm -qf /etc/centos-release centos-release-7-9.2009.1.el7.centos.x86_64 >rpm -qi centos-release Name : centos-release Version : 7 Release : 9.2009.1.el7.centos Architecture: x86_64 Install Date: Thu 03 Dec 2020 07:27:24 AM EST .. See how the Centos 7.9.2009 release package was installed this month? Previously, I had older versions of that package: >sudo grep centos-release /var/log/yum.log* /var/log/yum.log:Nov 13 08:46:49 Updated: centos-release.x86_64 7-9.2009.0.el7.centos /var/log/yum.log:Dec 03 07:27:24 Updated: centos-release.x86_64 7-9.2009.1.el7.centos /var/log/yum.log-20181204:Jul 30 14:47:20 Updated: centos-release-7-5.1804.el7.centos.2.x86_64 /var/log/yum.log-20181204:Aug 14 12:15:35 Updated: centos-release-7-5.1804.4.el7.centos.x86_64 /var/log/yum.log-20181204:Oct 10 05:45:04 Updated: centos-release.x86_64 7-5.1804.5.el7.centos /var/log/yum.log-20181204:Dec 04 07:19:18 Updated: centos-release.x86_64 7-6.1810.2.el7.centos /var/log/yum.log-20200428:Jan 08 09:08:24 Updated: centos-release-7-7.1908.0.el7.centos.x86_64 /var/log/yum.log-20200428:Apr 28 07:47:22 Updated: centos-release.x86_64 7-8.2003.0.el7.centos So over the years, this server got upgraded automatically from Centos 7.5 to 7.6 to 7.7 to 7.9. I have nightly automatic "yum updates" turned on, so it just gets updates as they come out and I reboot the server once every so often so the updates get fully applied (new kernels, new shared libraries). The difference with Centos Stream is you'll get updates continually /before/ RHEL releases it eventually as a "snapshot in time" called RHEL x.y+1. Sure, they won't be as heavily tested as RHEL point releases, but if you really need/want that, then you can either buy RHEL or stage your Centos Stream updates from TEST-->STAGE-->PROD, and/or stagger them across your PROD systems to minimize impact. On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 02:59:30PM -0500, Tim Keller wrote: > I've got a fair amount of centos in production... this sucks... guess I'm > going to Debian now... > > On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 9:10 AM Frank Sweetser via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > wrote: > > > And for anyone looking to contribute to Greg's efforts: > > > > https://github.com/hpcng/rocky > > > > On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 11:23 PM Chuck Anderson via WLUG < > > wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > > > >> My favorite comment on that post: > >> > >> "Gregory Kurtzer says: > >> December 8, 2020 at 4:27 pm > >> > >> I am considering creating another rebuild of RHEL and may even be able > >> to hire some people for this effort. If you are interested in helping, > >> please join the HPCng slack (link on the website hpcng.org) > >> > >> Greg > >> (original founder of CentOS)" > >> > >> On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 10:35:24PM -0500, Frank Sweetser via WLUG wrote: > >> > Well, there's plenty talk about for CentOS users, like what you're > >> going to > >> > switch to now that CentOS is becoming something completely different: > >> > > >> > https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/

5 years

Re: [Wlug] SuSE 9.2 (x86/x86_64) needs a new home.

by Mike Leo

Hi....www.wlug.org says the next meeting is Wednesday, July 14th....there is no Wednesday July 14th this year. One of our calendars is wrong....hope its not mine! thanks mike --- Andy Stewart <andystewart(a)comcast.net> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Stephen C. Daukas wrote: > > I have a Technical Resource Kit (SUSE - Novell > 2004 DVDs 1A-1C) with all > > sorts of goodies. > > > > Let the bidding begin! ;-) > > What is in the Technical Resource Kit that differs > from SuSE Linux > Professional? > > Later, > > Andy > > > - -- > Andy Stewart, Founder > Worcester Linux Users' Group > Worcester, MA, USA > http://www.wlug.org > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - > http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFC1ZvMHl0iXDssISsRAk+mAJ4szR6aPvLXuEPTu+fT/GDaM5iFgwCfS54S > C707mvC+jwyrVRhd58VAa7Q= > =cobp > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

20 years, 5 months

RE: [Wlug] Free Stuff

by Marc Hughes

just you for the case + motherboard ... a bunch for the ipx. -Marc -----Original Message----- From: Michael Frysinger [mailto:vapier@WPI.EDU] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:42 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Free Stuff any takers on the PC case/p233/sun sparc ipx ? -mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marc Hughes" <HughesM(a)TOMSNYDER.com> To: <wlug(a)wlug.org> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:22 AM Subject: [Wlug] Free Stuff > I want to reduce the amount of stuff in my apartment, so I have free > stuff to give away: > > 1) Sun Sparc IPX > 2) Sun monitor (16" I think ... But it's huge) > 3) Full tower PC case ... No power supply > 4) Compaq 286 Laptop ... It works! > 5) Super Nintendo (controllers, games, etc) > 6) Pentium 233 + motherboard > > I'll bring all of it to the meeting, if you want something email me. If > lots of people want any of those items, I'll ask Andy to raffle them > off. > > -Marc > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

23 years, 11 months

Re: [Wlug] ZFS on Linux vs. BTRFS or stick with EXT4?

by Tim Keller

Since I use zfs on a daily basis, I'd be glad to talk about it. How big are these drives? While you can use zfs as your boot FS, I think I'd stick with lvm/ext4 for / and / boot. I'd then carve out a big data space and use zfs for that. Are these disks going to raided? Thanks, Tim. On Tuesday, April 28, 2015, Chuck Anderson <cra(a)wpi.edu> wrote: > I'm migrating to new large drives and would lke to take advantage of a > filesystem that has integrated data and metadata checksums. How well > does ZFS on Linux really work? What is the current status of BTRFS? > Which one would you trust your precious data to? I've been out of the > loop lately... This would be a great meeting topic! "How to set up > ZFS on Linux and/or BTRFS". Any takers? > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

10 years, 8 months

Re: WLUG history

by Andy Stewart

On 1/23/20 12:08 PM, Tim Keller via WLUG wrote: > One of my favorite anecdotes is from one of our installfests at Stratus where > Doug Wade tripped over the power cord *just* as the install had finished, but > before the MBR/LILO could be written to the disk. > It was cool to see a bunch of linux hackers stand around and get Mandrake to > properly boot on this persons machine. > > Good times. > > Tim. Definitely good times! I remember when Doug Waud tripped on that power cord. At the time, we somewhat affectionately said that the machine had been "Doug'd". I remember a talk that Doug Waud gave about computer networking. His first example of a network was a string with a cup at either end. Does anybody else remember that install fest we held at Stratus Computer? I think we installed Linux on 20 computers that day. I remember using a shoe horn to get it installed on two separate hard drives for Bob Evans, who I still see at ham radio club meetings. Andy -- Andy Stewart (KB1OIQ) Vice President: PART of Westford, MA (WB1GOF) Founder: Chelmsford Linux Meetup Group Founder: Worcester Linux Users' Group

5 years, 11 months

New WLUG website

by Andy Stewart

HI everybody, The WLUG website has been moved to a new location. I'd like to thank Rob Bellville for hosting the WLUG website for us for the last 3.5 years! Unfortunately, the ISP that Rob was using is "going away" so the site needed a new home. Chuck Anderson has volunteered to host the WLUG website on his machine - thanks, Chuck! I will still maintain my role to keep the site up to date with meeting announcements and such. The change should be totally transparent to all of you. You will continue to access the site via: http://www.wlug.org You will know if you are seeing the new site since it says "**NEW**" near the top. As the DNS change is propagated around the Internet, eventually you'll all see the new site. Don't freak out if you don't catch the new site immediately...they both have identical content. I won't remove the files from the old site just yet until we're sure that the transition has been completed successfully. If you have problems accessing the site, please let me know. Thanks, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

24 years, 7 months

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