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Re: Reminder: Meeting June 13th 2024 at 7PM! Topic: Your own personal LLM!

by John Stoffel

Hi all, I think we had a good meeting last night, it was certainly neat seeing how well ollama2 and ollama3 are at answering questions. It was also interesting to see how it could start going off the rails a little bit when asked interesting questions, because it couldn't (in my mind!) reason about things properly. Can you tell I'm an AI skeptic in some ways? It will make big changes at some point, but I don't think it will be as much as people think right away. It's still on the hype phase, and we haven't gotten to the reality crash yet. So hopefully we'll get some more details posted so we can all play around with ollama3 on our own systems. It's a bummer I can't use my AMD GPUs since that's all I have, no nVidia stuff at all in my house. And for next month, what do people want to talk about? I can try to resurrect my talk on KiCad, updated for v8 that was released ealier this year. Or I can talk about 'duc' which is the software package I help maintain. It's for indexing large large filesystems and displaying disk usage via CLI, GUI or web pages. It's really useful for when you have a 12Tb filesystem with 30 million files, because plain 'du' just takes way too long. https://github.com/zevv/duc is where you can find it. It's been quiet for a long time, but I've been recently getting ready to update and push out a new release. Hopefully this month if I'm lucky! John

June 14, 2024

Re: [Wlug] meeting topic

by Greg Labonte

Just wondering Mike, Did you try using the Graphical installer for Gentoo? > On 1/30/06, Mike Leo <mleo963(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> Am I wrong, or is the gentoo install insanely comlicated? >> >> Although I did not sit in front of it from start to finish, it >> seems like an install takes hours >> and hours of work... >> >> I followed the Handbook (some 80 pages of documentation), which >> i'm sure is very accurate and each >> step worked as advertised, but in the end it was too much. >> >> After an install of debian, which takes me less than 20 minutes, >> this was too much for my poor >> little brain to take, and I eventually gave up. >> >> In addition to that, I can't for the life of me, get slackware to >> consistantly install lilo >> correctly during the install. >> >> Any comments on either of these would be apreciated, however, I am >> just writing this to toss my >> vote in for a linux install fest as a meeting topic. >> >> I have no problem bringing in a laptop to show the simple, >> eligant, streamlined, 20 minute debian >> install, but I would like to also see someone go through a gentoo >> install, and assist on a >> slackware lilo config...all of which can be done via my laptop if >> needed. >> >> Thanks ! >> Mike >> _______________________________________________ >> Wlug mailing list >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Jan. 30, 2006

Re: [Wlug] Reminder: Meeting Thursday April 14th 2016 NOTE LOCATION!

by Tim Keller

That would be FANTASTIC! Sounds like we've got ourselves a speaker! Thanks Greg! Later, Tim. On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 4:47 PM, Gregory Avedissian <avedis.dc(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I could talk about using linux for radio broadcast automation. Demo, too - > I've got it running on the laptop. > > Greg > > > On 04/12/2016 03:17 PM, Tim Keller wrote: > > Hey Gang, > > > > This a reminder we've got a meeting Thursday April 14th! > > > > Here are the details: > > Date: April 14th, 2016 > > Time: 7pm > > Location: Atwater-Kent rm. 232 > > Topic: None Currently. If someone wants to speak let me know! > > > > I've reached out to a bunch of people but schedules/etc. have gotten in > the > > way. Worse case scenario, we simply nerd out... > > > > If people are interested I can speak about hadoop and what's gone into > > building the clusters and some of the hardware and management challenges > > I've dealt with. > > > > Refreshments and snacks will be provided and we'll head over to tech > pizza > > afterwards for some slices and more banter! > > > > Later, > > Tim. > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wlug mailing list > > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

April 12, 2016

Re: [Wlug] Wlug Tonight?

by thinkbrown＠gmail.com

We're clearly well prepared for these meetings. On Mar 8, 2018 17:49, "Tim Keller" <turbofx(a)gmail.com> wrote: > There is no Wlug tonight. I actually misread the calendar and thought is > was next weekm My plan is to have Wlug next Thursday. > > Thanks, > Tim. > > On Thursday, March 8, 2018, Joel <joelgroup(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hey Tim, > > > > Is WLUG on for tonight? > > > > If so, regular time and room? > > > > Asking as everything else last night and tonight has been canceled (6 > thing total). > > > > Thank you, > > > > Joel > > > > On February 20, 2018 12:00:59 PM wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org wrote: > > > >> Send Wlug mailing list submissions to > >> wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >> > >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > >> wlug-request(a)mail.wlug.org > >> > >> You can reach the person managing the list at > >> wlug-owner(a)mail.wlug.org > >> > >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > >> than "Re: Contents of Wlug digest..." > >> > >> > >> Today's Topics: > >> > >> 1. Reminder: Meeting Tomorrow! Feb. 20th, 2018!!! Topic: > >> Encryption! Note the Location!!! (Tim Keller) > >> > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> Message: 1 > >> Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 12:58:00 -0500 > >> From: Tim Keller <turbofx(a)gmail.com> > >> Subject: [Wlug] Reminder: Meeting Tomorrow! Feb. 20th, 2018!!! Topic: > >> Encryption! Note the Location!!! > >> To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug(a)mail.wlug.org> > >> Message-ID: > >> <CA+r3vQgrb57rkCtF1fUbuO7p550o5n8qKBvuajbuLghvX=kcdQ(a)mail.gmail. > com> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > >> > >> Hey Gang, > >> > >> We've got a meeting tomorrow! My good friend Nick is going to deep dive > on > >> encryption! > >> > >> Location: Fuller Labs Rm 311 > >> Time: 7pm > >> > >> The speaker for this meeting is my good friend Dr. Nick Howgrave-Graham. > >> He's a cryptographer who has experience in both the making and breaking > >> of encryption systems. This will be a general talk about some commonly > >> used encryption systems, the math around them and how some of these > >> systems have been broken through poor design. If there are some specific > >> encryption algorithm / system that you'd like to deep dive, email the > list, > >> I'll let Nick know and possibly he can focus on that. > >> > >> As usual snacks and refreshments will be provided and afterwards we'll > head > >> off > >> for a bite to eat. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Tim. > >> > >> -- > >> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > >> constituents as "consumers". > >> -------------- next part -------------- > >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > >> URL: http://mail.wlug.org/pipermail/wlug/attachments/ > 20180219/63e1e19f/attachment-0001.html > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wlug mailing list > >> Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > >> http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >> > >> > >> End of Wlug Digest, Vol 172, Issue 4 > >> ************************************ > > > > > > > > > > -- > I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their > constituents as "consumers". > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

March 8, 2018

WLUG's membership in BUG

by Andy Stewart

Hi everybody, Last year around this time, an organization was formed called the Boston User Groups (http://www.bostonusergroups.com) WLUG was invited to participate. As a group, we decided to pay our $50/year membership fee to participate for the first year. Some of you might remember this meeting, where the general consensus was "OK, let's try it for a year and see how it goes". Our yearly membership dues are being requested by BUG. I had some questions about whether or not WLUG should continue its participation in BUG. I had a discussion with the WLUG members who attended the BBQ. Several of those people thought that the discussion should take place among the entire WLUG membership. The timing of BUG events is such that I'd like to settle this issue before our next WLUG meeting (ideally within the next week). Take a look at the BUG webpage as you consider my comments and those of other WLUG members. Please take note of the other groups who are current BUG members. There are 3 Linux groups, a Palm group, a Mac group, and some others, not to mention the wide variety of Microsoft related user groups. Given that Microsoft is a documented monopoly (a court said that, not just me), this distribution of member groups should not be a surprise to anybody. Some of the commentary below assumes familiarity with the contents of the BUG website. My initial question (if I recall correctly) was to wonder about what tangible benefit WLUG received for its $50 expenditure. a) BUG has a link to the WLUG website on its website b) WLUG had a table at last year's MegaMeeting and gave out literature advertising the group, its meetings, etc. c) I met some leaders of other regional user groups while eating free pizza, drinking free soda, and touring the US DataCenters facility in Marlboro, MA. d) I know that we got at least one new WLUG member from the MegaMeeting. Perhaps there were others, or folks who shortly thereafter joined the mailing list, but I have no way to know for sure. The BUG website also has a calendar of group activities onto which WLUG's activities were never placed. The calendar is designed for groups who meet, say, every 2nd Thursday of the month. WLUG's schedule is not as regular as that, and hence our information was not put onto the calendar after two requests by me. Rick Zach is the current BUG president. He recently sent an e-mail to the user group leaders (attached) wherein he describes some of the benefits of BUG membership. I also have personally spoken to Rick to make sure my information about BUG is correct so that I can present it fairly to the WLUG membership. My question to WLUG is: Do we as a group wish to continue our participation in BUG for $50/year ? Later, Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org

Aug. 29, 2002

Last meeting mention of connecting to DISPLAY :0

by Chris (wolcen) Thompson

Hi all, Great to see you all in the last meeting :-) I was the skateboarder...who caught me almost falling shortly before I left? LOL ----------- Remote X [Insert name I've forgotten here (sorry!)] mentioned that their users connect to a remote session's root desktop (or whatever you call the initial/primary display :0 deal that you initially/locally get). I would like to do this as well. SSH with port forwarding is probably my preference, but wireguard would be OK as well. I don't think I want to directly expose anything like xrdp. Anyway - could you please refresh my memory as to what was being used? I'm running i3 in this case (started via lightdm). I generally have not loved using VNC-based tools, but if that's what is currently recommended, I guess I'll give it another go. ------------ SSHFS Optimization Also - I referred to using sshfs internally for myself to my NAS, and some optimizations for it. This is my current alias to mount it: sshfs -o cache=yes -o kernel_cache -o Ciphers=aes128-ctr -o Compression=no -o ServerAliveCountMax=3 -o ServerAliveInterval=15 -o reconnect -C -o idmap=user server: /mymountpoint I got a few of the recommended switches from this article that finally convinced me to just forget about NFS: https://blog.ja-ke.tech/2019/08/27/nas-performance-sshfs-nfs-smb.html Thanks! Chris PS - I used to respond here from an account that was at from a riseup.net account. I have since moved to mailbox.org so it at least 'comes from' wolcen.com...I hate/am terrible at managing email servers. Anyway: all those responses/posts therefore were moderated. I'm not sure ANY of those ever made it though, so I was curious if anyone does any checks on moderated messages?

July 18, 2022

Educational Linux ... WAS: REMINDER: Upcoming LAN Party !!

by Marc Hughes

Speaking about linux in education ... I work for Tom Snyder Productions (a Scholastic company) (www.tomsnyder.com) we make Educational software for schools. Recently we started using a toolkit for windows/mac portability that also happens to have every kind of unix support you could want. (you can probably guess what toolkit it is). So us geeky engineers have been pushing for a linux port, even if it's an unsupported port. So we went to customer service to see how many linux requests there were ... 0, zero, nadda, zilch. And we have a very in-depth customer relations database, every call gets logged. We asked around a bit, and found that it probably wouldn't work. It seems schools using linux are usually doing it because they are trying to save every penny. Kind of hard to sell software to schools like that. But at least we found out there's a lot of linux fileservers out there, so we're QA'ing serving our network products from them. (you'd be surprised at the wide varriances in file-locking between servers & protocols!) So I guess the moral of the story, call you congressmen ... Err... Um...call your software vendors, you never know when they might be listening. Oh well, -Marc -----Original Message----- From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Stephen C. Daukas Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 8:33 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: RE: [Wlug] REMINDER: Upcoming LAN Party !! Sorry - I thought I was sending that to just Andy... My bad... -----Original Message----- From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Stephen C. Daukas Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 8:17 PM To: wlug(a)mail.wlug.org Subject: RE: [Wlug] REMINDER: Upcoming LAN Party !! We should probably talk about Mad Dog and Linux in education... -----Original Message----- From: wlug-admin(a)mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Andy Stewart Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 12:36 PM To: Worcester Linux Users' Group Subject: [Wlug] REMINDER: Upcoming LAN Party !! HI Everybody, The next WLUG meeting will be held this coming Wednesday, February 19th, 2003 in a different location. The meeting room will be AK233 (Atwater Kent room 233). Please refer to the Wlug Meetings...Directions link for directions to this room. The building is right next to Salisbury Labs on the WPI campus. Please note the earlier start time of 6:00 PM ! At this meeting, we'll be having a LAN party ! This is WLUG's first LAN party so I'm curious to see what people bring. You'll need to bring your network gear (hubs, switches, cables) and a laptop or desktop machine with networking enabled. We'll interconnect all of the machines to create one big WLUG LAN. I'll bring my PLIP cable for the masochists in the crowd. This network most likely will *not* have access to the Internet (but we'll see what we can do). On this LAN, all sorts of activities could take place, such as multiplayer games, network security scans, attempts to (non-destructively!) crack another persons system to teach them about their security weaknesses, and more. Its really up to all of you and your imaginations as to what we can do with this type of setup. I'll even entertain doing a couple of network based Linux installations if folks want that. If people need help configuring their systems for networking, that help will be available. I'll also be available to do a demonstration of VNC for those interested. The possibilities are really endless. Due to the amount of time to setup such a LAN and still have time to have fun with it, I've extended the time of the WLUG meeting from 6:00 PM - 9:00 PM (note earlier start time!). Have a lot of fun, and I'll see you all on Wednesday. Andy -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA USA http://www.wlug.org _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Feb. 18, 2003

Re: [Wlug] Ubuntu CD's

by Andy Stewart

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Eric Stein wrote: > I have 5 livecd/install sets that I got shipped from ubuntu awhile back. > I'd like to keep one, so you can have the other four. > Eric > > P.S. The meeting is at 7pm in the access grid room on Wednesday, right? Yes, the meeting is at 7PM in the Access GRid room on WEdnesday. Andy > > Mike Leo wrote: > > >>I made the mistake of offering a linux basics class at work. >> >>I was going to use the Ubuntu LiveCD to get the class some hands on. This way, they could take >>the CD and install it if they wanted too. >> >>I figured about 5-10 responders would say they wanted to go to the class. >> >>So far about 20 people are coming. >> >>Anyone have any extra 5.1 Ubuntu CD's they can part with? I need at least 10 more now and don't >>have time to wait for the mail. I know I could make copies, but talking about the free-ness of >>it, it would be better to hand them a nice legit copy. >> >>If so, please bring them to the LUG meeting tomorow if you can. >> >>Thanks... >> >>Mike >>_______________________________________________ >>Wlug mailing list >>Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org >>http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wlug mailing list > Wlug(a)mail.wlug.org > http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug > - -- Andy Stewart, Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEPBxzHl0iXDssISsRArZJAJ9VLWTubkFjncyCpIFucK4NhnMnPACfVB+/ Nl5QEHSk7J0tUuWhpvyhjZg= =tXYd -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

April 11, 2006

Re: Meeting agenda for thursday Feb 16th?

by Tim Keller

Please note that we've pushed the meeting off to the 23rd because this week WPI is running a career fair and there are no rooms to be booked. Thanks, Tim. On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 1:53 PM kstratton--- via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: > Could you forward an address and parking and other instructions. I am > trying to decide if I can do the long drive from Hartford County. > > On Tue, Feb 14, 2023, at 1:33 PM, John Stoffel via WLUG wrote: > >> What is an OrganPI? Scatological and crude comments have been > suppressed. > > > > Duh! OrangePi LTS 3. > > > > > http://www.orangepi.org/html/hardWare/computerAndMicrocontrollers/details/o… > > > > I must admit I haven't played around with WiFi in there, or bluetooth. > > I was mostly looking for a small replacement for regular RaspberryPis > > which are so damn expensive these days. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > > Change Settings: > > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > > Web Forum/Archive: > > > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/WNQUQ… > > -- > > kstratton(a)fastmail.us > _______________________________________________ > WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org > Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ > Change Settings: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ > Web Forum/Archive: > https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/XVSA6… > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Feb. 15, 2023

Re: [EXT] Framework Laptops

by Tim Keller

Since we are now back meeting in person, our *general* meeting place is in the WPI student center. I need to talk to Frank about scheduling a meeting place for us. I'd like to get back into the room we were in last time as the A/V setup worked really well. Thanks, Tim. On Mon, Jan 16, 2023 at 11:32 AM Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> wrote: > It's been so long, where and when is the meeting again? I don't think I > ever attended when I joined in 2012 or so. > > On Mon, Jan 16, 2023, 10:48 AM Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> > wrote: > >> We have a meeting coming up on the 26th, this sounds like a great starter >> topic! >> >> Cara, would you be interested in coming to the meeting and doing a demo? >> >> Thanks, >> Tim. >> >> On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 3:14 PM Jason Couture via WLUG < >> wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: >> >>> The other cool thing though: >>> You can 3d print a case for the old board if you upgrade. I plan on >>> making a dock for them that will fit in 2-3u with a usb-backplane with a >>> 10gbe switch, and 2x usb-c 10gbe + Power delivery. You'd be able to pack >>> them super dense. Great for a proxmox or harvester cluster. >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2023, 3:12 PM Jason Couture <plaguethenet(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I've had no issues with mine on fedora. For what it's worth. >>>> >>>> Highly recommend framework. Although I did get the runaround with >>>> support about a usb4 dock. Kept getting me to try windows, despite the fact >>>> I had. >>>> >>>> But we have 3, they're rock solid. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2023, 12:22 PM John Stoffel via WLUG < >>>> wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Cara" == Cara Salter via WLUG <wlug(a)lists.wlug.org> writes: >>>>> >>>>> > On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 09:52:40PM -0500, Keith Wright via WLUG >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >> Is that 42 days from deciding to order one until happily browsing >>>>> >> the web with newly installed Debian, Xfce, Firefox? Or 42 days >>>>> >> from starting to fill out the order form until finally getting >>>>> >> the last required field filled in? Or what? >>>>> >>>>> > Hi! I'm the workstudy in question. According to the emails I >>>>> > received for moving through each step in the process, it took 42 >>>>> > days from me submitting my deposit and me receiving a physical >>>>> > laptop that I could start using. >>>>> >>>>> Would you be willing to come to a WLUG meeting and show off your new >>>>> toy to the rest of us? I do like the idea of that laptop, but I'd >>>>> like to get my hands on it to see how the feel of it really is. >>>>> >>>>> > For context, I ordered the "DIY edition" which didn't come with the >>>>> RAM or >>>>> > storage. I ordered both on Amazon and they arrived a bit before the >>>>> laptop. >>>>> >>>>> > I'm currently writing this from my Gentoo install on it! The only >>>>> > two issues I ran into was that the wifi card (Intel AX210) firmware >>>>> > wasn't in the "stable" kernel, so I had to keyword my system to >>>>> > ~amd64. The other issue I ran into was that kernel 5.19.12 had a bad >>>>> > display driver that caused flickering >>>>> > ( >>>>> https://community.frame.work/t/psa-dont-upgrade-to-linux-kernel-5-19-12/231… >>>>> ) >>>>> >>>>> Did you fix the flickering with a newer kernel version? Its been >>>>> years since I ran Gentoo (got tired of all the recompiles, but this >>>>> was 10+ years ago for sure....) and I thought it was pretty damn >>>>> bleeding edge in terms of kernels. >>>>> >>>>> I'm currently running kernel 6.0.8 on my main Debian Buster home >>>>> NFS/KVM/etc server and it works great, but it is headless. >>>>> >>>>> John >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >>>>> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >>>>> Change Settings: >>>>> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >>>>> Web Forum/Archive: >>>>> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/3RZJO… >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >>> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >>> Change Settings: >>> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >>> Web Forum/Archive: >>> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/KZV2E… >>> >> >> >> -- >> I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their >> constituents as "consumers". >> _______________________________________________ >> WLUG mailing list -- wlug(a)lists.wlug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)lists.wlug.org >> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ >> Change Settings: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ >> Web Forum/Archive: >> https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/6AN6H… >> > -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

Jan. 16, 2023

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