Hi all, I've actually managed to get my iPAQ connected to my linux laptop using my usb cable....and I've even gotten some files off it and opened them up with OOo. All-in-all, I'm happy. But I would like to back up the address files and convert them into something Linux can use. What files does pocket-pc use to keep their addressbook data in? Wes
On Wednesday 04 December 2002 09:55 pm, Wesley Allen wrote:
Hi all, I've actually managed to get my iPAQ connected to my linux laptop using my usb cable....and I've even gotten some files off it and opened them up with OOo. All-in-all, I'm happy. Nice.
But I would like to back up the address files and convert them into something Linux can use. What files does pocket-pc use to keep their addressbook data in? I believe that the address book, is something that only outlook can read. I had a hard time trying to figure this one out to when i switched from WinCE to linux. What i did was found a machine with outlook and sync-ed to that. Opened up outlook and exported the address book in csv format. Then i could actually read the data.
Cheers, --brad
Thanks, Only now I can't connect to my computer again with synce. Screw it, I've got my data backed up. linux here I come...... Where do I stop the install process and put qtopia on instead of X (and is qtopia in ipkg format anywhere?). Wes On Wednesday 04 December 2002 10:30 pm, brad wrote:
On Wednesday 04 December 2002 09:55 pm, Wesley Allen wrote:
Hi all, I've actually managed to get my iPAQ connected to my linux laptop using my usb cable....and I've even gotten some files off it and opened them up with OOo. All-in-all, I'm happy.
Nice.
But I would like to back up the address files and convert them into something Linux can use. What files does pocket-pc use to keep their addressbook data in?
I believe that the address book, is something that only outlook can read. I had a hard time trying to figure this one out to when i switched from WinCE to linux. What i did was found a machine with outlook and sync-ed to that. Opened up outlook and exported the address book in csv format. Then i could actually read the data.
Cheers, --brad
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On Monday 09 December 2002 03:13 pm, Wes Allen wrote:
Thanks, Only now I can't connect to my computer again with synce. Screw it, I've got my data backed up. linux here I come...... Where do I stop the install process and put qtopia on instead of X (and is qtopia in ipkg format anywhere?).
The install is in phases. Though i believe there are some packages will combine the root and the graphics (that would combine steps 2 and 3 below). 1st - you'll need to install a boot loader so you can boot into linux (this is the only dangerous part). 2nd - you'll need to install the base linux system, or the root (you'll probably want the familiar distro). You do this through the boot loader. 3nd - at this point you'll have linux installed but no graphics. You want to make sure you can connect you're ipaq to the internet so it can download packages. Choose which graphics package you want, X, GPE, Qtopia, or OPIE, and install it. All the graphics packages are a set of packages, so you can install the packages you will find useful. I would suggest OPIE, since that's what i use, and that seems to be the most featureful and mature of them all. This will probably make for an intersting mini-demo at a meeting. It's been a long time since i've gone through all this stuff though (since i installed linux on my ipaq a year and a half ago and a lot has changed). --brad
Wes
On Wednesday 04 December 2002 10:30 pm, brad wrote:
On Wednesday 04 December 2002 09:55 pm, Wesley Allen wrote:
Hi all, I've actually managed to get my iPAQ connected to my linux laptop using my usb cable....and I've even gotten some files off it and opened them up with OOo. All-in-all, I'm happy.
Nice.
But I would like to back up the address files and convert them into something Linux can use. What files does pocket-pc use to keep their addressbook data in?
I believe that the address book, is something that only outlook can read. I had a hard time trying to figure this one out to when i switched from WinCE to linux. What i did was found a machine with outlook and sync-ed to that. Opened up outlook and exported the address book in csv format. Then i could actually read the data.
Cheers, --brad
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Yeah, I've figured out the boot-loader part....but I haven't been daring enough to try it out. I was thinking about starting the process tonight, but I couldn't get my win4lin installation to tell that I have a serial port on my computer, and so I couldn't install the boot-loader. And since I can't get synce to work right, I was kinda stuck..... I can't wait until I get rid of pocketPC2002..... activesync is just a pain in the neck. Wes On Monday 09 December 2002 5:35 pm, brad wrote:
On Monday 09 December 2002 03:13 pm, Wes Allen wrote:
Thanks, Only now I can't connect to my computer again with synce. Screw it, I've got my data backed up. linux here I come...... Where do I stop the install process and put qtopia on instead of X (and is qtopia in ipkg format anywhere?).
The install is in phases. Though i believe there are some packages will combine the root and the graphics (that would combine steps 2 and 3 below).
1st - you'll need to install a boot loader so you can boot into linux (this is the only dangerous part).
2nd - you'll need to install the base linux system, or the root (you'll probably want the familiar distro). You do this through the boot loader.
3nd - at this point you'll have linux installed but no graphics. You want to make sure you can connect you're ipaq to the internet so it can download packages. Choose which graphics package you want, X, GPE, Qtopia, or OPIE, and install it.
All the graphics packages are a set of packages, so you can install the packages you will find useful. I would suggest OPIE, since that's what i use, and that seems to be the most featureful and mature of them all.
This will probably make for an intersting mini-demo at a meeting. It's been a long time since i've gone through all this stuff though (since i installed linux on my ipaq a year and a half ago and a lot has changed).
--brad
Wes
On Wednesday 04 December 2002 10:30 pm, brad wrote:
On Wednesday 04 December 2002 09:55 pm, Wesley Allen wrote:
Hi all, I've actually managed to get my iPAQ connected to my linux laptop using my usb cable....and I've even gotten some files off it and opened them up with OOo. All-in-all, I'm happy.
Nice.
But I would like to back up the address files and convert them into something Linux can use. What files does pocket-pc use to keep their addressbook data in?
I believe that the address book, is something that only outlook can read. I had a hard time trying to figure this one out to when i switched from WinCE to linux. What i did was found a machine with outlook and sync-ed to that. Opened up outlook and exported the address book in csv format. Then i could actually read the data.
Cheers, --brad
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Now that is a great idea for a meeting (says he who has an IPAQ)! Anyone else think installing Linux on an iPAQ would be interesting?
This will probably make for an intersting mini-demo at a meeting. It's been a long time since i've gone through all this stuff though (since i installed linux on my ipaq a year and a half ago and a lot has changed).
Since the ipaq install was described as a mini-demo, perhaps a PDA night? IPaqs, zauruses, palms, whatever else. I'd suggest... How to install linux on them. (including explanation of distros, and package formats) How to sync them with a linux desktop. How to sync the linux pda with a windows desktop. Other cool stuff? war-walking? Hmm... Not sure how easy it is to show off PDA stuff to a large group due to the screen size. I bet there's solutions to that (run vnc on the pda?) And also... Perhaps another talk someday could be "Linux on unusual devices" ... PS2, dreamcast, toasters, refidgerators, whatever weird things linux is running on. Anyone got any ideas there? -Marc -----Original Message----- From: wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Stephen C. Daukas Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 8:23 AM To: wlug@mail.wlug.org Subject: [Wlug] Meeting Ideas... Now that is a great idea for a meeting (says he who has an IPAQ)! Anyone else think installing Linux on an iPAQ would be interesting?
This will probably make for an intersting mini-demo at a meeting. It's been a long time since i've gone through all this stuff though (since i installed linux on my ipaq a year and a half ago and a lot has changed).
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I think the mini-demo idea was a good way to go about it. It was offered to me last install-fest by my family and I were sick. As for this week, my wife and I are talking over my coming. I had promised her that she'd be able to go out with some friends that night in advance (cookie-swap) and while she insists that it's ok if I go to the wlug meeting instead I don't feel right reniging on that promise. So I might miss this AGAIN. ARRRRRGHHHH! Maybe this could be the January topic? I'd be interested to see anyone who's got a Zarus as well, how do you like it? Wes On Tuesday 10 December 2002 9:09 am, Marc Hughes wrote:
Since the ipaq install was described as a mini-demo, perhaps a PDA night? IPaqs, zauruses, palms, whatever else.
I'd suggest... How to install linux on them. (including explanation of distros, and package formats) How to sync them with a linux desktop. How to sync the linux pda with a windows desktop. Other cool stuff? war-walking?
Hmm... Not sure how easy it is to show off PDA stuff to a large group due to the screen size. I bet there's solutions to that (run vnc on the pda?)
And also... Perhaps another talk someday could be "Linux on unusual devices" ... PS2, dreamcast, toasters, refidgerators, whatever weird things linux is running on. Anyone got any ideas there?
-Marc
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Now that is a great idea for a meeting (says he who has an IPAQ)! Anyone else think installing Linux on an iPAQ would be interesting?
This will probably make for an intersting mini-demo at a meeting. It's been a long time since i've gone through all this stuff though (since i
installed
linux on my ipaq a year and a half ago and a lot has changed).
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A meeting like so would probably be best suited for January. That would give me time to get kitchsync working. Also i hope i can i have a ipaq to install linux on (mine has already been ..... well, exorcized). Wes has been wanting to do for some time, let's hope he can make it January's meeting. Are there any other ipaq owners which would like to have this done? On Tuesday 10 December 2002 09:09 am, Marc Hughes wrote:
Since the ipaq install was described as a mini-demo, perhaps a PDA night? IPaqs, zauruses, palms, whatever else.
I'd suggest... How to install linux on them. (including explanation of distros, and package formats) How to sync them with a linux desktop. How to sync the linux pda with a windows desktop. Other cool stuff? good list of ideas.
war-walking? what is war-walking?
Hmm... Not sure how easy it is to show off PDA stuff to a large group due to the screen size. I bet there's solutions to that (run vnc on the pda?) Yeah the size could be a problem. VNC is a good idea, and i think i does work on the ipaq.
And also... Perhaps another talk someday could be "Linux on unusual devices" ... PS2, dreamcast, toasters, refidgerators, whatever weird things linux is running on. Anyone got any ideas there? That does sound interesting.
--brad
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Are there any other ipaq owners which would like to have this done?
Yeah, I would if you tell me I can reliably sync between Linux and Windows and there are capable contact/task/calendar/etc apps that work well on the ipaq platform. How about sound recording/playback functionality? What LAN/WLAN cards are supported? These are the worries I have. I will go to handhelds.org and read up a bit but sometimes experienced users find that the info read on a site is not as rosy IRL. thanks & I would like to start attending meetings also, Brett
On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 01:17:53PM -0500, Brett Russ wrote: > brad wrote: > >Are there any other ipaq owners which would like to have this done? > These are all good questions. > Yeah, I would if you tell me I can reliably sync between Linux and > Windows I believe this is possible. I will look into specifics. > and there are capable contact/task/calendar/etc apps that work > well on the ipaq platform. Calendars are pretty simple to display on different platforms with the ical file format. Task, contacts ... i'll have to look this up. I believe contacts can sync okay with outlook. Again i'll look into this. > How about sound recording/playback > functionality? This sort of works, there's development beening done in this area. > What LAN/WLAN cards are supported? Yes, there are a few that are supported. I don't know this ones, i'll look for a hardware compat list. > These are the worries I have. I will go to handhelds.org and read up a > bit but sometimes experienced users find that the info read on a site is > not as rosy IRL. Yeah, these are all logical concerns. For some people converting to linux doesn't make sence. There are a few downfalls from linux on the ipaq, off the top of head. - no pocket word, excel, outlook etc. - no natural handwritting recognition (only character recognition, like the palm) - Hardware is less supported. > thanks & I would like to start attending meetings also, Perhaps after i give a little demonstration, you'll have a better idea whether converting your ipaq is for you. --brad
On Tuesday 10 December 2002 5:52 pm, brad wrote:
On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 01:17:53PM -0500, Brett Russ wrote:
brad wrote:
Are there any other ipaq owners which would like to have this done?
These are all good questions.
Yeah, I would if you tell me I can reliably sync between Linux and Windows
I believe this is possible. I will look into specifics.
and there are capable contact/task/calendar/etc apps that work well on the ipaq platform.
Calendars are pretty simple to display on different platforms with the ical file format.
Good...
Task, contacts ... i'll have to look this up. I believe contacts can sync okay with outlook. Again i'll look into this.
How about evolution? And I'm surprised that aethera isn't slated to sync with it's own apps....
How about sound recording/playback functionality?
This sort of works, there's development beening done in this area.
ogg playback? Using theKompany's player? Maybe?
What LAN/WLAN cards are supported?
Yes, there are a few that are supported. I don't know this ones, i'll look for a hardware compat list.
I'd like to see the list, if you find a decent url....
These are the worries I have. I will go to handhelds.org and read up a bit but sometimes experienced users find that the info read on a site is not as rosy IRL.
Yeah, these are all logical concerns. For some people converting to linux doesn't make sence. There are a few downfalls from linux on the ipaq, off the top of head. - no pocket word, excel, outlook etc.
Opie's stuff is good, and theKompany's programs should work on an iPAQ, or so they say...
- no natural handwritting recognition (only character recognition, like the palm)
I though qtopia had trainable letter recognition? And I don't like handwriting recognition, mostly because I've got terrible handwriting....
- Hardware is less supported.
thanks & I would like to start attending meetings also,
Perhaps after i give a little demonstration, you'll have a better idea whether converting your ipaq is for you.
--brad
I'd sugguest two computers doing the setup.... one with a serial connection to do the bootloader and initial install (if there's a couple of iPAQs) and another with usb networking setup do polish it off. How hard is it to set up usb networking? Wes
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I'll be there!!!!!! Wes On Tuesday 10 December 2002 12:12 pm, brad wrote:
A meeting like so would probably be best suited for January. That would give me time to get kitchsync working. Also i hope i can i have a ipaq to install linux on (mine has already been ..... well, exorcized). Wes has been wanting to do for some time, let's hope he can make it January's meeting.
Are there any other ipaq owners which would like to have this done?
On Tuesday 10 December 2002 09:09 am, Marc Hughes wrote:
Since the ipaq install was described as a mini-demo, perhaps a PDA night? IPaqs, zauruses, palms, whatever else.
I'd suggest... How to install linux on them. (including explanation of distros, and package formats) How to sync them with a linux desktop. How to sync the linux pda with a windows desktop. Other cool stuff?
good list of ideas.
war-walking?
what is war-walking?
Hmm... Not sure how easy it is to show off PDA stuff to a large group due to the screen size. I bet there's solutions to that (run vnc on the pda?)
Yeah the size could be a problem. VNC is a good idea, and i think i does work on the ipaq.
And also... Perhaps another talk someday could be "Linux on unusual devices" ... PS2, dreamcast, toasters, refidgerators, whatever weird things linux is running on. Anyone got any ideas there?
That does sound interesting.
--brad
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On Tue, 10 Dec 2002 09:09:29 -0500 "Marc Hughes" <mhughes@wpidalamar.com> wrote: MH> Since the ipaq install was described as a mini-demo, perhaps a PDA MH> night? MH> IPaqs, zauruses, palms, whatever else. MH> MH> I'd suggest... MH> How to install linux on them. (including explanation of distros, and MH> package formats) MH> How to sync them with a linux desktop. MH> How to sync the linux pda with a windows desktop. MH> Other cool stuff? MH> war-walking? well, i'm looking to see what sort of Linux distro i can get to install on my Palm IIIx... there used to be a few, but any that i found either didn't exist anymore or (in one case) they hang upon installation, even when they claim to install on my handheld.... 8\ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- William Smith wsmith-at-chezsmith-dot-com Fall River, MA http://www.chezsmith.com "Veal-Fattening Pen: Small, cramped office workstations built of fabric-covered disassemblable wall partitions and inhabited by junior staff members. Named after the small preslaughter cubicles used by the cattle industry." -- Douglas Coupland, "Generation X: Tales for an Accelerated Culture" * TAG! v3.1 *
I found this today, thought you (and any other ipaq users) might be interested. http://synce.sourceforge.net/synce/ -brad On Wednesday 04 December 2002 09:55 pm, Wesley Allen wrote:
Hi all, I've actually managed to get my iPAQ connected to my linux laptop using my usb cable....and I've even gotten some files off it and opened them up with OOo. All-in-all, I'm happy.
But I would like to back up the address files and convert them into something Linux can use. What files does pocket-pc use to keep their addressbook data in?
Wes
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Ummm, Isn't that what I'm using? I just need to know how to convert the iPAQ contacts (and maybe calendar) into something I can use in Linux... Wes On Friday 06 December 2002 6:14 am, brad wrote:
I found this today, thought you (and any other ipaq users) might be interested. http://synce.sourceforge.net/synce/
-brad
On Wednesday 04 December 2002 09:55 pm, Wesley Allen wrote:
Hi all, I've actually managed to get my iPAQ connected to my linux laptop using my usb cable....and I've even gotten some files off it and opened them up with OOo. All-in-all, I'm happy.
But I would like to back up the address files and convert them into something Linux can use. What files does pocket-pc use to keep their addressbook data in?
Wes
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I just need to know how to convert the iPAQ contacts (and maybe calendar) into something I can use in Linux...
If you have access to an Win box with Outlook and sync to that using MS ActiveSync (I can post the SW if you need it), you can use Mozilla to convert to (I think) the vCard format or something that can be recognized by Linux Mozilla or Evolution. See the Ximian site for the howto. I realize this is probably not the most direct way but MS is great like that :) BR
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