tim, it seems like we don't have enough people to run the show. maybe different date and time would be more appropriate for people(depending, of course, on the studio availability)... first, we need people to produce the show. it's a commitment of half an hour ones? a month.(could be ones in two months) is there anyone who would like to join the venture? second, we need a qualified show host who will lead the show and interview guests. i'm a new to linux and i would not dare to discuss it with my expertize. third, there is little problem with scan converter which can be replaced by a notebook with a video output. a tape of the show will be available immediately after the show and can be broadcast on any channel(depending on the amount of money, sponsorship etc; public access channels are free). also it's a good learning tool which can be multiplied and offered to the public. i still remember a hot discussion on wlug about introducing linux in public schools. i was astonished to see how college students buy c compilers for windows to do their homework for unix/c class. isn't it something? they know about linux but, o boy, they're scared of it!!!(wow, wow- i'm not talking about wpi students) good point was brought by goug. we need to know what audience we are going to target and where. if we start the show with linux introduction and discuss the difference between linux and commonly used operating systems, to get people intrigued, and continuously refer people to 'that show' then they'll know the connection, how to obtain previous educational tapes etc. yury ps keep forgeting to indicate the studio location- shewsbury media connection, parker rd. On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 00:40:51 -0400 Andy Stewart <andystewart@comcast.net> writes:
On Tuesday 14 October 2003 12:55 pm, Yury I Vashugin wrote:
hi, everyone. since we talked about producing an educational show about linux and putting it 'in-the-air' at the last wlug meeting and i saw a very enthusiastic response so i've reserved the studio for oct.21(see below). there's a problem with a converter but i'm sure we can find a laptop with a video output.
HI everybody,
I'm still quite enthusiastic about this opportunity, but unfortunately I cannot make it on October 21st (Tuesday is generally a bad night for me). I will be looking forward to reading the e-mails from people who do make it on that date.
Please keep us posted!
Andy
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I think this sounds like it's turning into an interesting idea. I would be willing to help out as a cameraman or something behind the scenes, and I do have a laptop with video out, but I would need a ride from campus to the studio. I will also be home on break the week of the 21st, so I can't make that night. -Matthew Kwiatkowski On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 13:39, Yury I Vashugin wrote:
tim, it seems like we don't have enough people to run the show. maybe different date and time would be more appropriate for people(depending, of course, on the studio availability)... first, we need people to produce the show. it's a commitment of half an hour ones? a month.(could be ones in two months) is there anyone who would like to join the venture? second, we need a qualified show host who will lead the show and interview guests. i'm a new to linux and i would not dare to discuss it with my expertize. third, there is little problem with scan converter which can be replaced by a notebook with a video output. a tape of the show will be available immediately after the show and can be broadcast on any channel(depending on the amount of money, sponsorship etc; public access channels are free). also it's a good learning tool which can be multiplied and offered to the public. i still remember a hot discussion on wlug about introducing linux in public schools. i was astonished to see how college students buy c compilers for windows to do their homework for unix/c class. isn't it something? they know about linux but, o boy, they're scared of it!!!(wow, wow- i'm not talking about wpi students) good point was brought by goug. we need to know what audience we are going to target and where. if we start the show with linux introduction and discuss the difference between linux and commonly used operating systems, to get people intrigued, and continuously refer people to 'that show' then they'll know the connection, how to obtain previous educational tapes etc. yury ps keep forgeting to indicate the studio location- shewsbury media connection, parker rd.
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 00:40:51 -0400 Andy Stewart <andystewart@comcast.net> writes:
On Tuesday 14 October 2003 12:55 pm, Yury I Vashugin wrote:
hi, everyone. since we talked about producing an educational show about linux and putting it 'in-the-air' at the last wlug meeting and i saw a very enthusiastic response so i've reserved the studio for oct.21(see below). there's a problem with a converter but i'm sure we can find a laptop with a video output.
HI everybody,
I'm still quite enthusiastic about this opportunity, but unfortunately I cannot make it on October 21st (Tuesday is generally a bad night for me). I will be looking forward to reading the e-mails from people who do make it on that date.
Please keep us posted!
Andy
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Hi all Yury I Vashugin wrote:
first, we need people to produce the show. it's a commitment of half an hour ones? a month.(could be ones in two months) is there anyone who would like to join the venture?
I have been lurking and on the horns of a dilema. The above comments got me off the fence. (On re-reading, that is an atrocious mixed metaphor --- natural talent!) :-) Then general idea of proseletizing strikes me as reasonable. However, I think it is a good idea to do as good a job as possible. Although I admit to little direct experience with such exercises, my impression is that they should not be lightly undertaken. In particular, I gather it takes about ten hours preparation for one hour of finished product (and that ratio is probabley optimistic). You have to identify your audience, identify, rank and organize what topics should be covered, decide on how best to utilize the time, write some sort of at least a detailed outline, if not a full script, try dry run(s). etc. So far, all I see is the idea that a group of well-meaning people are supposed to show up and "wing it". Sounds like a disaster waiting to happen. The discussion at the end of the last WLUG meeting demonstrated little more that that there were about as many views as to how to proceed as there were people in the discussion. Lots of chiefs, no indians. Now I readily confess that I am very good at spotting the negative side of just about anything. :-) (On a plane ride from Florida to Philadelphia, I once convinved a pharmacological colleague that an idea he was exploring made no sense at all. Years later, when Julie Axelrod got the Nobel prize for that general concept, I had one of those "oh shit" moments. Fortunately for me, the guy from Philadelphia, it turned out, had dropped the issue, but not on the basis of my comments.) The other horn of my dilema, is that I would like to help, but don't want to appear and just be a wet blanket. Since the "event" is right here is Shrewsbury, I'll probably show up (since I can at least function as a "gofer", pull out power cords and the like) but try to maintain a low profile. doug
Hi! Since my job is in the TV field, I have been watching this thread. Before you can even look at a studio, there are several things that need to be acomplished. The Producer (someone has to take the reins and make decisions, studio reservations, find crew, etc.) needs to set up some production meetings and decide how the show will be formatted (is it a series of shows, is it a one time show, talking heads show, magazine type, etc.). Then, a script has to be written. What will happen when, what needs to be edited, how long the final production will be, etc. Then a crew has to be chosen: director, camera operators, editors, etc. Then studio time, if needed, could be reserved. If someone has a digital video camera, I believe there is some editing software out there that runs on Linux. Doug, you are right, but your numbers are off a tad; for every second of finished video, approx. 1 minute of post production are required. Pre-production time is even more than that, sometimes. Don't let the numbers scare you...it's still quite do-able, just remember, a good product takes some time and work. Walt On Sat, 2003-10-18 at 20:08, doug waud wrote:
Hi all
Yury I Vashugin wrote:
first, we need people to produce the show. it's a commitment of half an hour ones? a month.(could be ones in two months) is there anyone who would like to join the venture?
I have been lurking and on the horns of a dilema. The above comments got me off the fence. (On re-reading, that is an atrocious mixed metaphor --- natural talent!) :-)
Then general idea of proseletizing strikes me as reasonable. However, I think it is a good idea to do as good a job as possible. Although I admit to little direct experience with such exercises, my impression is that they should not be lightly undertaken. In particular, I gather it takes about ten hours preparation for one hour of finished product (and that ratio is probabley optimistic). You have to identify your audience, identify, rank and organize what topics should be covered, decide on how best to utilize the time, write some sort of at least a detailed outline, if not a full script, try dry run(s). etc.
So far, all I see is the idea that a group of well-meaning people are supposed to show up and "wing it". Sounds like a disaster waiting to happen. The discussion at the end of the last WLUG meeting demonstrated little more that that there were about as many views as to how to proceed as there were people in the discussion. Lots of chiefs, no indians.
Now I readily confess that I am very good at spotting the negative side of just about anything. :-) (On a plane ride from Florida to Philadelphia, I once convinved a pharmacological colleague that an idea he was exploring made no sense at all. Years later, when Julie Axelrod got the Nobel prize for that general concept, I had one of those "oh shit" moments. Fortunately for me, the guy from Philadelphia, it turned out, had dropped the issue, but not on the basis of my comments.)
The other horn of my dilema, is that I would like to help, but don't want to appear and just be a wet blanket.
Since the "event" is right here is Shrewsbury, I'll probably show up (since I can at least function as a "gofer", pull out power cords and the like) but try to maintain a low profile.
doug
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doug waud wrote:
Hi all
I have been lurking and on the horns of a dilema.
Snip, snip
Since the "event" is right here is Shrewsbury, I'll probably show up
To compound that bad metaphor, a third horn has appeared, I just realizd that today is my birthday and my wife is taking me out to dinner. All those of you who are married will know that horn trumps the other two! So, you'll have to get on without me :-( :-) Sorry, I'll try, probably unsuccessfully, to avoid another such "senior moment" in the future. doug
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