Hiall! I have a Dell P4 server running RH8, Apache, Samba & sendmail (et al.), on a network with several other operating systems, and a broadband connection. Things I might require help with: 1. Samba config 2. Apache config 3. Disable sendmail, inst/conf tcpserver and qmail 4. Some general Linux admin questions 5. Some special-project-related things 6. Possibly ditching RH8 and moving to YD or Debian If there's anyone who would be interested in helping me out a little, enough to at least identify the main problems, I'd appreciate it greatly. I'll supply the beer/pizza. Pete Wason rogue@hynoom.com IM:Codevark
Not sure if this can be had without ponying up the buckeroos, but I'm looking for a copy to run an app that's only supported on that platform. Failing that, is there a free way to get the bits I need to run the app compiled thereupon? Thanks, Mike ovf@wblt.org
On Tue, 27 Jan 2004, Mike Peckar wrote:
Not sure if this can be had without ponying up the buckeroos, but I'm looking for a copy to run an app that's only supported on that platform. Failing that, is there a free way to get the bits I need to run the app compiled thereupon?
How much time do you have? If you start with Redhat 7.2, you can rebuild RHAS 2.1 from the source RPMs, and then install that. There is a FAQ online somehow on exactly what order packages must be installed in. http://www2.uibk.ac.at/zid/software/unix/linux/rhel-rebuild.htm Of course, this will probably take a very long time, so it might be worthwhile to just buy RHAT 2.1.
From: "Mike Peckar" <fog@fognet.com>
Not sure if this can be had without ponying up the buckeroos, but I'm looking for a copy to run an app that's only supported on that platform. Failing that, is there a free way to get the bits I need to run the app compiled thereupon?
I'm not sure exactly what you are asking for. RH means Red Hat, no? What is AS? I have an old CD that says Red Hat 2.1 LiNUX with the "digital" logo. (as in Digital Equipment Corp, DEC) The files are dated November 1995. Is that what you are talking about? -- Keith
On Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 01:10:52AM -0500, Keith Wright wrote:
I'm not sure exactly what you are asking for. RH means Red Hat, no? What is AS?
RedHat Enterprise Linux. AS == Advanced Server. (they also have ES and WS...) My understanding is that the software and such is basically free, but you pay for support/update systems, etc. At the moment, btw, if you were a subscriber to RHN for the RH9 and previous versions, you can get a 50% discount to goto WS or ES for 2 years. AS 2.1 is old at this point, 3 came out a few months ago. I have ES 3 on my home server, and I've started rolling out ES and AS 3 at work. So far, things look good, minus the sometimes tempermental SCSI driver on the IBM x445 series (Summit code needed, sometimes the driver decides to wind itself into a ball and freeze the box...)
I have an old CD that says Red Hat 2.1 LiNUX with the "digital" logo. (as in Digital Equipment Corp, DEC) The files are dated November 1995. Is that what you are talking about?
I have one of those too, it was for the Alpha, and mine's autographed by Linus. ;) -- Randomly Generated Tagline: Running Windows on a Pentium is like having a brand new Porsche but only be able to drive backwards with the handbrake on. (Unknown source)
On Mon, Jan 26, 2004 at 11:33:39PM -0500, Pete Wason wrote:
Things I might require help with:
I can't help, but.... (and mind you, these are merely my OPINIONS)
1. Samba config
Easy. Install from RPM's, and follow the instructions in /etc/samba/smb.conf (or similar). It should take less than a few hours if you've never done it before. Less than 30 minutes, otherwise.
2. Apache config
Again, install from RPMs, edit /etc/apache/httpd.conf as per the inline instructions. One to a few hours again.
3. Disable sendmail, inst/conf tcpserver and qmail
http://www.lifewithqmail.org Do whatever they say there, I swear. Step by step. First you have to patch up the qmail dist to make it reasonable. I added at least one more patch myself (SMTP-AUTH). 1-2 days if you've never done it before. After I figured out what I was doing I preferred to blow away my installation and do it again. That took 2-3 hours. Make sure you read and understand the qmail Big Picture (http://www.nrg4u.com/). That helped me a lot in my understanding of how qmail is put together, which in turned helped me to effectively hack in my customizations.
4. Some general Linux admin questions 5. Some special-project-related things
Well, you can certainly address the list.
6. Possibly ditching RH8 and moving to YD or Debian
Dell will tell you to suck it, support-wise, if you do that. But you might be happier in the long run. The system I set up had some unfamiliar-to-me hardware such as as raid controller, system monitoring stuff, so we chose to leave it stock. If you do this, I'd recommend making it step 1, instead of 6, however. :) -Chuck
Chuck Homic wrote:
On Mon, Jan 26, 2004 at 11:33:39PM -0500, Pete Wason wrote:
Things I might require help with:
I can't help, but.... (and mind you, these are merely my OPINIONS)
1. Samba config
Easy. Install from RPM's, and follow the instructions in /etc/samba/smb.conf (or similar). It should take less than a few hours if you've never done it before. Less than 30 minutes, otherwise.
Well, I've done this, but some things are not working quite right. It may have more to do with general file/dir ownership/permissions than Samba itself. But all the stuff I read never quite answers the questions I have. For example: I have a www share for my /var/www/ directory. I can access this dir, but nothing below it, and I can't write anything to it, or delete, etc. I have to transfer stuff to my home folder, and then run over to the server and copy/move the files into my /var/www/html folder...
2. Apache config
Again, install from RPMs, edit /etc/apache/httpd.conf as per the inline instructions. One to a few hours again.
Once again, it may just be ownership/perms that are killing me, but what I'd like to do is have somebody who's really familiar with this kind of thing just check it out for glaring config errors or security holes. Should everything under www be owned by root? or by apache? etc. I'm also using Rebol extensively for CGI stuff. For example: I've tried using * in conjunction with vhost configs, but I get errors when I do this, so right now I'm using my IP, which is less than desireable if I understand anything at all about this.
3. Disable sendmail, inst/conf tcpserver and qmail
Do whatever they say there, I swear. Step by step. First you have to patch up the qmail dist to make it reasonable. I added at least one more patch myself (SMTP-AUTH). 1-2 days if you've never done it before. After I figured out what I was doing I preferred to blow away my installation and do it again. That took 2-3 hours.
Make sure you read and understand the qmail Big Picture (http://www.nrg4u.com/). That helped me a lot in my understanding of how qmail is put together, which in turned helped me to effectively hack in my customizations.
OK, so I'm lazy ;-) No, wait, I'm *busy*. I fear that I will try to do too much too fast and really screw up the whole system. That's the last thing I need right now with everything else that's going on. I've been "directed" to cancel my current offsite vhost/email account before the end of the week, so I don't have a lot of time to work with (but that's really more of a personal problem, so I'll leave it to you to ruminate as to the exact situation here). Thanks for the links...
4. Some general Linux admin questions 5. Some special-project-related things
Well, you can certainly address the list.
Ownership/perms. Best way to keep the system up to date now that RHN is ignoring me. Security, security, security. Installing/configuring Kylix, Sphereserver, et al. All of the above, etc.
6. Possibly ditching RH8 and moving to YD or Debian
Dell will tell you to suck it, support-wise, if you do that. But you might be happier in the long run. The system I set up had some unfamiliar-to-me hardware such as as raid controller, system monitoring stuff, so we chose to leave it stock.
If you do this, I'd recommend making it step 1, instead of 6, however. :)
Yes ;-) The likely Dell response is why I haven't moved on this already. I wonder what Dell is thinking in regards to RH's move - seems like RH dropped a big customer support issue in Dell's lap. I think YD is cool, even though I don't really know how it staxup against the alternatives, and Debian is one of the distros approved for another machine I'm betatesting (Pegasos). Thanks for the reply, and TIA for any future helps/ideas/infos... Pete
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