HI gang, Christmas is coming, and I'm thinking about asking Santa for a portable MP3 player. Of course, it needs to work with Linux. Judging from the looks of the CDs which I've ripped into MP3 files, 32 MB of memory looks like it might be a tad small for a single CD, while 64 MB looks like it might do the trick for loading up around 2 CDs worth of music. Is this a fair assessment? Since I use compact flash for my digital camera, any MP3 player that uses this medium should probably get extra consideration, I would think. Any thoughts or recommendations will be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Andy -- Andy Stewart Founder Worcester Linux Users' Group Worcester, MA, USA http://www.wlug.org
On Sun, Dec 02, 2001 at 03:00:26PM -0500, Andy Stewart wrote:
HI gang,
Christmas is coming, and I'm thinking about asking Santa for a portable MP3 player. Of course, it needs to work with Linux.
Judging from the looks of the CDs which I've ripped into MP3 files, 32 MB of memory looks like it might be a tad small for a single CD, while 64 MB looks like it might do the trick for loading up around 2 CDs worth of music. Is this a fair assessment? Since I use compact flash for my digital camera, any MP3 player that uses this medium should probably get extra consideration, I would think.
Any thoughts or recommendations will be greatly appreciated!
Personally, I'd avoid the memory based ones altogether. Unless you really want the small physical size, the cost per song can't even come close to the ones that read ISO9660 cds filled with MP3 files, or the ones with a built in multi-gig hard drive. If you do want a tiny memory based one, though, I'd reccomend also checking out the Digital Wallet - essentially a large hard drive with a builtin simple file manager that connects via USB, SmartMedia, CompactFlash, MMC, StrataFlash, IBM Microdrive, Sony Memory Stick, and Panasonic SD Memory Card. http://www.thinkgeek.com/ has a small, but very high quality, selection, including the Digital Wallet. -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu, fs at suave.net | $ x 15 Full-time WPI Network Tech, Part time Linux/Perl guy | After they make styrofoam, what do they ship it in? -- Stephen Wright
On Sun, Dec 02, 2001 at 03:00:26PM -0500, Andy Stewart wrote: andystewart> Christmas is coming, and I'm thinking about asking Santa for a portable andystewart> MP3 player. Of course, it needs to work with Linux. You to, eh? andystewart> Judging from the looks of the CDs which I've ripped into MP3 files, 32 MB andystewart> of memory looks like it might be a tad small for a single CD, while 64 MB andystewart> looks like it might do the trick for loading up around 2 CDs worth of andystewart> music. Is this a fair assessment? Since I use compact flash for my andystewart> digital camera, any MP3 player that uses this medium should probably get andystewart> extra consideration, I would think. Personally, I think the memory-based MP3 players are way too expensive for how many songs they can hold. I'd rather have a CD-ROM-based player, since a CD can hold about 10 hours of music. Also, you don't have to worry about Linux compatibility, since it will take any standard ISO9660 CD-ROM which you can burn from Linux just fine. The other type of players, based on hard drives, are also too expensive for my taste, and who needs to store 100's of hours of music on a portable device? The CD-MP3 players are the "just right" price/performance right now. The latest CD-MP3 players have come a long way since the Genica 1st generation units. By far the best ones I have found are these two, since they have excellent navigation capabilities, which you'll need to navigate the hundreds of songs on a CD: Sonicblue Rio Volt SP250 TDK Mojo Check out their reviews on http://music.cnet.com/ . They both got Editor's Choice. -- Charles R. Anderson <cra@wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886
A little more depth on the Sonicblue Rio Volt SP250: This is the model I was going to (and still might) purchase, kuz you can't be a cool dork w/out a portable mp3 player. ;) When I dug a little deeper into this model, I came across it's European counter-part, the iRiver. It is, of course, a little more expensive. Essentially, it's from the same company who OEM's the RioVolt line, but the trick is, they water down their products for the American market. There are a few things that the iRiver has that the RioVolt doesn't. 1.) LCD on the remote control. I don't know how much this interests people, but it's a nice little feature. Also, I believe those stupid dancing people that everyone so widely hated do not appear on the iRiver. 2.) I've been told by people experienced in both players that there are much more frequent firmware revisions for the iRiver. Oh, and this is a good place to mention that this is the feature that made me wanna buy it. As patches/fixes/upgrades are made for the player, you can d/l firmware upgrades, burn them to a cd, and run them in the player. One thing that really interested me is that, on the iRiver site http://www.iriver.com/english/imp250.htm they mention the potential implementation of the OGG Vorbis format, which I'm a big fan of, (no royalties threatened like MP3.) This is something I haven't seen mentioned for the American version, but who knows. One other thing I should mention. You'll need a power converter for this model. :) If anyone does end up with this player, please post your impressions on the list. I haven't completely made up my mind yet whether I want to pay more. Sincerely, Cheapskate Sands Fish <x>< --- "Charles R . Anderson" <cra@WPI.EDU> wrote:
On Sun, Dec 02, 2001 at 03:00:26PM -0500, Andy Stewart wrote: andystewart> Christmas is coming, and I'm thinking about asking Santa for a portable andystewart> MP3 player. Of course, it needs to work with Linux.
You to, eh?
andystewart> Judging from the looks of the CDs which I've ripped into MP3 files, 32 MB andystewart> of memory looks like it might be a tad small for a single CD, while 64 MB andystewart> looks like it might do the trick for loading up around 2 CDs worth of andystewart> music. Is this a fair assessment? Since I use compact flash for my andystewart> digital camera, any MP3 player that uses this medium should probably get andystewart> extra consideration, I would think.
Personally, I think the memory-based MP3 players are way too expensive for how many songs they can hold. I'd rather have a CD-ROM-based player, since a CD can hold about 10 hours of music. Also, you don't have to worry about Linux compatibility, since it will take any standard ISO9660 CD-ROM which you can burn from Linux just fine. The other type of players, based on hard drives, are also too expensive for my taste, and who needs to store 100's of hours of music on a portable device? The CD-MP3 players are the "just right" price/performance right now.
The latest CD-MP3 players have come a long way since the Genica 1st generation units. By far the best ones I have found are these two, since they have excellent navigation capabilities, which you'll need to navigate the hundreds of songs on a CD:
Sonicblue Rio Volt SP250 TDK Mojo
Check out their reviews on http://music.cnet.com/ . They both got Editor's Choice.
-- Charles R. Anderson <cra@wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886 _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug@mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug
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A little more depth on the Sonicblue Rio Volt SP250: This is the model I was going to (and still might) purchase, kuz you can't be a cool dork w/out a portable mp3 player. ;) When I dug a little deeper into this model, I came across it's European counter-part, the iRiver. It is, of course, a little more expensive. Essentially, it's from the same company who OEM's the RioVolt line, but the trick is, they water down their products for the American market. There are a few things that the iRiver has that the RioVolt doesn't. 1.) LCD on the remote control. I don't know how much this interests people, but it's a nice little feature. Also, I believe those stupid dancing people that everyone so widely hated do not appear on the iRiver. 2.) I've been told by people experienced in both players that there are much more frequent firmware revisions for the iRiver. Oh, and this is a good place to mention that this is the feature that made me wanna buy it. As patches/fixes/upgrades are made for the player, you can d/l firmware upgrades, burn them to a cd, and run them in the player. One thing that really interested me is that, on the iRiver site http://www.iriver.com/english/imp250.htm they mention the potential implementation of the OGG Vorbis format, which I'm a big fan of, (no royalties threatened like MP3.) This is something I haven't seen mentioned for the American version, but who knows. One other thing I should mention. You'll need a power converter for this model. :) If anyone does end up with this player, please post your impressions on the list. I haven't completely made up my mind yet whether I want to pay more. Sincerely, Cheapskate Sands Fish <x>< --- "Charles R . Anderson" <cra@WPI.EDU> wrote:
On Sun, Dec 02, 2001 at 03:00:26PM -0500, Andy Stewart wrote: andystewart> Christmas is coming, and I'm thinking about asking Santa for a portable andystewart> MP3 player. Of course, it needs to work with Linux.
You to, eh?
andystewart> Judging from the looks of the CDs which I've ripped into MP3 files, 32 MB andystewart> of memory looks like it might be a tad small for a single CD, while 64 MB andystewart> looks like it might do the trick for loading up around 2 CDs worth of andystewart> music. Is this a fair assessment? Since I use compact flash for my andystewart> digital camera, any MP3 player that uses this medium should probably get andystewart> extra consideration, I would think.
Personally, I think the memory-based MP3 players are way too expensive for how many songs they can hold. I'd rather have a CD-ROM-based player, since a CD can hold about 10 hours of music. Also, you don't have to worry about Linux compatibility, since it will take any standard ISO9660 CD-ROM which you can burn from Linux just fine. The other type of players, based on hard drives, are also too expensive for my taste, and who needs to store 100's of hours of music on a portable device? The CD-MP3 players are the "just right" price/performance right now.
The latest CD-MP3 players have come a long way since the Genica 1st generation units. By far the best ones I have found are these two, since they have excellent navigation capabilities, which you'll need to navigate the hundreds of songs on a CD:
Sonicblue Rio Volt SP250 TDK Mojo
Check out their reviews on http://music.cnet.com/ . They both got Editor's Choice.
-- Charles R. Anderson <cra@wpi.edu> / http://angus.ind.wpi.edu/~cra/ PGP Key ID: 49BB5886 Fingerprint: EBA3 A106 7C93 FA07 8E15 3AC2 C367 A0F9 49BB 5886 _______________________________________________ Wlug mailing list Wlug@mail.wlug.org http://mail.wlug.org/mailman/listinfo/wlug
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