Re: [Wlug] Repartitioning for Installfest
Thanks for offering to loan your copy of PQMagic for the Installfest. I think we'll give the Open Source options a run through before the event; if they cause problems we'll revert to PQMagic. Concerning your server, I would move to another distro. I personally use Gentoo, but for your applications you may want to go with Debian. I like Gentoo since its so customizable, and the fact that everything is compiled from the source code speeds up the computer a fair amount. For Apache file permissions, directories should be 755 and files should be 644 as I understand it. I've always had a hard time with Samba and file permissions, so I would leave that to someone else. Apache and Samba config files can be very unique to what you are trying to accomplish with both - the only thing I can really suggest is to copy the config files onto a disk before your wipe out so you don't have to start from scratch! Sincerely, Ryan Caron ACM Secretary Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 11:27:37 -0500 From: Pete Wason <rogue@hynoom.com> Subject: Re: [Wlug] Repartitioning for Installfest To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug@mail.wlug.org> Message-ID: <40460779.7090306@hynoom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Martin, Eric wrote:
What are you looking for as far as help?
I'm running RH8.0 on my server. a. I'm not sure if I should continue to use RH as support has expired, and I can't affort their enterprise version. b. I'm not sure of/satisfied with my Apache configuration c. I'm not sure of/satisfied with my Samba configuration d. I'm not sure of/satisfied with general file permissions as they relate to (b and c) e. I want to install tcpserver and qmail, and disable sendmail (which I'm not using anyway) Network: CAT-5 ethernet Server: Dell 600SC/RH8.0 (http, samba, sshd, etc.) Router: LinkSys BEFSR81, on a cablemodem... Wkstns: Pegasos I/Morphos 1.4 (samba server also, I think) Clone PC/Win2000 Pro (windows shares, printer) Amiga 3000D/AmigaOS3.1 (printer, accesses shares via smbfs) Amiga 3000D/AmigaOS3.1 (smbfs) Sony Vaio laptop/WinXP Home (windows shares) Questions, Comments: 1. Is it normal that my http port should be getting hit hundreds of times a day with intrusion attacks aimed at an NT server? Strange days indeed... 2. I also am constantly bombarded with hundreds of virus-infected spam messages; right now I'm using a mailserver in NJ -- when I get mine set up, I'll switch. 3. I find it strange and somewhat disturbing that if I have my laptop booted to the logon screen, I can connect to its shares via samba - without a password! Is this normal (read: goofy) windows security? 4. If I didn't have to spend all my time looking for a job, doing part-time work on the side, and acting as non-paid VP of an ill-fated (so far) software startup, I could just hunker down and learn all this stuff myself. Right now, that's not an option. Pete
On Wednesday 03 March 2004 07:03 pm, Ryan Caron wrote:
Concerning your server, I would move to another distro. I personally use Gentoo, but for your applications you may want to go with Debian. I like Gentoo since its so customizable, and the fact that everything is compiled from the source code speeds up the computer a fair amount.
or perhaps move to fedora as that'll be the most redhat like (assuming thats what you want :]) -mike
Mike Frysinger wrote:
On Wednesday 03 March 2004 07:03 pm, Ryan Caron wrote:
Concerning your server, I would move to another distro. I personally use Gentoo, but for your applications you may want to go with Debian. I like Gentoo since its so customizable, and the fact that everything is compiled from the source code speeds up the computer a fair amount.
or perhaps move to fedora as that'll be the most redhat like (assuming thats what you want :])
Does anyone have any exp with YD? I always liked the *look* of their stuff ;-) Pete
Charles R. Anderson said:
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 07:03:49PM -0500, Ryan Caron wrote:
Gentoo since its so customizable, and the fact that everything is compiled from the source code speeds up the computer a fair amount.
Placebo affect most likely.
Thank you thank you thank you. I'm so sick of the gentoo weenies claiming that. Scott
Scott Venier said:
Thank you thank you thank you.
I'm so sick of the gentoo weenies claiming that.
OK. I'll apologize for this one up front. That was supposed to be off list. Bad squirrelmail. Now for some justification so I don't seem like a total jerk. I've just read reports of using 3 days of CPU time to intall a gentoo system. My wimpy k6 system has over 98% idle cpu cycles - that's running i386 compiled debian code and a not totally trivial workload, it's a firewall, mail/web/dns server, and has a fair number of interactive users (15 as I write this, but it's still early in the day). My computer spends almost all of its time waiting for me. Any time that it doesn't spend waiting for me is spent waiting for I/O devices like disks and the network. If you want your computer to be faster, get yourself gobs of ram and run out of a ram disk. The cpu time is rarely the bottle. 3 days to save something that I'm only using 3% of... It's just not worth the hassle, imho. Scott
"Scott Venier" <scott@scooter.cx> writes:
That was supposed to be off list. Bad squirrelmail.
Actually, bad settings on the list server. This list preforms reply-to munging, which has caused several people in the past to accidentally reply to the list when they had intended to send a private message. I like this: http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html And this: http://cr.yp.to/proto/replyto.html wrt. building from source vs. binary packages, of course there is a tradeoff. I use Debian myself, and might consider trying something else if I actually had some measurable amount of free time to screw around with building software. I think an important part of using a distribution with binary packages is learning how to make your own. (be it RH or Debian, etc) Once you do know how, dealing with that one package which isn't built the way you like it becomes much easier. -- Josh Huber
On Thu, 4 Mar 2004, Scott Venier wrote:
Charles R. Anderson said:
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 07:03:49PM -0500, Ryan Caron wrote:
Gentoo since its so customizable, and the fact that everything is compiled from the source code speeds up the computer a fair amount.
Placebo affect most likely.
Thank you thank you thank you.
I'm so sick of the gentoo weenies claiming that.
As a "Gentoo Weenie" (Don't worry, no real offense taken), I'd like to comment on this. Yes, Gentoo does compile packages optimized for the CPU. I'm sure this does speed up packages, although probably not as much as a lot of Gentoo users seem to think. What people fail to take into consideration is the other available optimizations. When packages are compiled for most major distributions need to compile any and all available options that the distribution will support for any particular set of users. For a quick example: Evolution. Here are the available options you can enable/disable in Evolution for Gentoo: crypt doc ipv6 kde kerberos ldap mozilla pda spell ssl Redhat would need to compile support for all of these things into Evolution if any of their customers are going to use the feature. Each of these options add more memory requirements to evolution at the very least. Certain options may also increase the amount of cpu time used by the process as well. Other packages have even more options. Added together you can certainly save quite a bit of system resources on a heavily utilized system. Changes to the kernel itself and glibc can also give you savings or performance increases. (Yes, you can compile a custom kernel for other distros). Enabling nptl for glibc can give you a big speed increase if you're not using any programs that break with it. -- Greg
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