I've recently spent a small amount of time playing around with both the SuSe 8.2 Live Eval, and Knoppix 7-26-03, so I thought I'd pass along my observations.
Both default you into KDE and have a similar selection of apps (Like OpenOffice, Mozilla, the GIMP etc). Knoppix happens to be based of Debian.
There were a couple of things I liked about Knoppix. The first is that you don't have to go through all the YaST screens when you boot, Knoppix just boots right up to KDE and logs you on as user knoppix. The other neat
We could also have a distribution bake off if we wanted as well. We did this before and it worked really well. If we have a BSD head in the crowd, they could demo [Open|Free|Net]BSD as well. I think as a follow-up to this, we could have a separate meeting that would be entirely focused on securing BAD/linux. I think it would be disingenuous to not only the students of WPI, but also tech guys in WPI to let a bunch of people loose on the network with easily rootable machines. That's my 0.018441 Euros. Tim. -----Original Message----- From: Matt Higgins [mailto:matt@higgsolutions.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 9:49 AM To: wlug@mail.wlug.org Subject: RE: [Wlug] Re: Next Meeting? My 2 cents or less if you will. I think Knoppix is the way to go! The point is to showoff Linux-wares not to teach about a particular distributions configuration mechanism or file system layout. Knoppix is clean and impressive in many ways and does a great job at showing off what Linux can do. Furthermore we are to the point were a Linux install is no more difficult then a Windows install, particularly the commercial distributions; Red Hat, SuSe, Mandrake, Yellow Dog, etc... So thats my 2 cents or less, long live Slackware! Matt Quoting Steve Freitag <Steve.Freitag@alum.wpi.edu>: thing
about Knoppix is that you can save your configuration and home directory of the size you specify on a USB flash drive. With SuSE if you want to save your configuration/home dir it creates a 100MB file on your hard drive (and another 100MB for swap if you want). With Knoppix you can carry a cheap ($10 after rebate) 64MB USB flash drive around with you and a Knoppix CD and boot a PC into your personal environment without touching the hard disk.
-----Original Message----- From: wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org [mailto:wlug-admin@mail.wlug.org] On Behalf Of Stephen C. Daukas Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 4:23 PM To: wlug@mail.wlug.org Subject: Re: [Wlug] Re: Next Meeting?
Is introducing yet-another-flavor-of-linux useful? I understand what you are trying to achieve, but one of the first questions that came to my mind was "what is the difference between Knoppix and a regular Linux distro"? (The first was actually "what the hell is Knopix"!) Will it be confusing to the people looking at is verusus what they see when they look at SuSe, Red Hat, etc.?
Andy Stewart wrote:
On Monday 01 September 2003 4:52 pm, albutler33@netscape.net wrote:
Andy,
I think a great topic especially for the new students would be "Fast Track to Linux" where you introduce the GNOME and KDE desktops and a few of your favorite tools and utilities.
Al Butler
HI Al,
My most current thoughts are centered on Linux, its origins, the GPL, WLUG/WPILA, and then segue into single CD demo distributions for folks who
want to "kick the tires", as it were, without fully committing their hard drives to Linux.
One such single CD demo distribution is Knoppix, which does have KDE (and GNOME?). Once Knoppix is running, many things could be demonstrated. If I go with this idea, I'd want to have copies of the Knoppix CD available for
people to take home, and hopefully they would try it at their leisure.
How does that sound? Do people have additional ideas? Let's hear them! :-)
Later,
Andy
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On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 08:52:15AM -0400, Keller, Tim wrote:
be entirely focused on securing BAD/linux. I think it would be disingenuous to not only the students of WPI, but also tech guys in WPI to let a bunch of people loose on the network with easily rootable machines.
You mean, letting lots of newbie students loose on a large network with machines they barely know how to use, let alone keep reasonably virus/trojan/hacker free? Yeah, we call that "A Term" <G>. At least most linux distributions actually have a sane update mechanism, unlike the mess that is Windows Update. Plus, <plug type=shameless>we have a working up2date server on the WPI campus for anyone on the campus network to use. I don't really have any good docs on how to use it written, but if anyone on campus is interested, email me and I'll give you the quick'n dirty on getting started.</plug> -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu WPI Network Engineer
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