YAICB (Yet Another Intel Cpu Bug) only worse...
We should definitely talk about the huge flaw that was just found the CSME on intel cpu's from the last five years and how intel has admitted it's entirely unpatchable... https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/6/21167782/intel-processor-flaw-root-of-trus... Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".
Oh good. No one was concerned about people breaking the SME at all... ________________________________ From: Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug@lists.wlug.org> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 1:51 PM To: Worcester Linux Users' Group General Discussion <wlug@lists.wlug.org> Cc: Tim Keller <turbofx@gmail.com> Subject: [EXT] [WLUG] YAICB (Yet Another Intel Cpu Bug) only worse... We should definitely talk about the huge flaw that was just found the CSME on intel cpu's from the last five years and how intel has admitted it's entirely unpatchable... https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/6/21167782/intel-processor-flaw-root-of-trust-csme-security-vulnerability<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theverge.com%2F2020%2F3%2F6%2F21167782%2Fintel-processor-flaw-root-of-trust-csme-security-vulnerability&data=02%7C01%7Cnjkrichevsky%40wpi.edu%7C422bfaf1a8f245918fa608d7c51bc872%7C589c76f5ca1541f9884b55ec15a0672a%7C0%7C0%7C637194595452216994&sdata=UShDDi5LPbx50nrhu0VfP1GDdTFDf%2B7pIaS6uj9Cg84%3D&reserved=0> Tim. -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".
AMD's looking good..... of course their CPUs will be filled with bugs too. On 3/18/20 6:08 PM, Krichevsky, Nicholas J. via WLUG wrote:
Oh good. No one was concerned about people breaking the SME at all...
Michael> AMD's looking good..... of course their CPUs will be filled Michael> with bugs too. All things will have bugs. I like AMD because they're the underdog and competition is good.
On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 09:18:48PM -0400, Michael Voorhis via WLUG wrote:
All things will have bugs. I like AMD because they're the underdog and competition is good.
Competition IS good.
None of my software has any bugs of any kind. Not a one, I tell you.
It is time for an Open Source CPU/chipset. No more hidden code.
Power9 / https://www.raptorcs.com/ is the only one with modern grunt, tmk. The whole thing's open. Spendy but not for what it is. -soup On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 11:18 AM Michael Voorhis via WLUG < wlug@lists.wlug.org> wrote:
On 3/19/20 11:01 AM, Chuck Anderson via WLUG wrote:
It is time for an Open Source CPU/chipset. No more hidden code.
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Chuck Anderson via WLUG <wlug@lists.wlug.org> writes:
On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 09:18:48PM -0400, Michael Voorhis via WLUG wrote:
All things will have bugs. I like AMD because they're the underdog and competition is good.
Competition IS good.
None of my software has any bugs of any kind. Not a one, I tell you.
It is time for an Open Source CPU/chipset. No more hidden code.
I think RISC-V is as close as you're going to get in the near term. This entry from Bunnie Huang's blog may be of interest to you: https://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=5706 -Jeff
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 11:19:22AM -0400, Jeff Moyer via WLUG wrote:
Chuck Anderson via WLUG <wlug@lists.wlug.org> writes:
On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 09:18:48PM -0400, Michael Voorhis via WLUG wrote:
All things will have bugs. I like AMD because they're the underdog and competition is good.
Competition IS good.
None of my software has any bugs of any kind. Not a one, I tell you.
It is time for an Open Source CPU/chipset. No more hidden code.
I think RISC-V is as close as you're going to get in the near term. This entry from Bunnie Huang's blog may be of interest to you:
Thanks for that. Now I'll go back to using my Apple II with its 6502 CPU. Does anyone have an electron microscope I can borrow?
"Chuck" == Chuck Anderson via WLUG <wlug@lists.wlug.org> writes:
Chuck> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 11:19:22AM -0400, Jeff Moyer via WLUG wrote:
Chuck Anderson via WLUG <wlug@lists.wlug.org> writes:
On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 09:18:48PM -0400, Michael Voorhis via WLUG wrote:
All things will have bugs. I like AMD because they're the underdog and competition is good.
Competition IS good.
None of my software has any bugs of any kind. Not a one, I tell you.
It is time for an Open Source CPU/chipset. No more hidden code.
I think RISC-V is as close as you're going to get in the near term. This entry from Bunnie Huang's blog may be of interest to you:
Chuck> Thanks for that. Now I'll go back to using my Apple II with Chuck> its 6502 CPU. Does anyone have an electron microscope I can Chuck> borrow? LOL! There's a limit to how paranoid you can get.
(whoops, didn't CC the list on 1st try) AMD's looking good..... of course their CPUs will be filled with bugs too. On 3/18/20 6:08 PM, Krichevsky, Nicholas J. via WLUG wrote:
Oh good. No one was concerned about people breaking the SME at all...
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