Hi all After the neglegible turnout of "customers" for our most recent installfest there was some discussion aa to whether the day of the installfest is past and we should look for other ways to serve the community. In this context I found this morning's (Oct 31) T&G had an interesting article which may provice a template for what we might now do. In a nutshell they described (pages A1 and A11) the Atlantic Paranormsl Society who for the past 12 years send out teams to help people who are having trouble with "domestic disturbances like eerie noises and signs of spirit possession". Their website, http://the-atlantic-paranormal-society.com/ gets 6000 hits a day from around the world" (they do not say whether setag lib is among them). They do not charge for their "work" and say "the rich and poor both need help" and say "Also how can you charge for something that cannot be proved to exist" (which does not seem to stop Micro$oft!). They have about 25 regular members, consult with a network of similar groups and gather at an eatery (Starbucks, not the Boynton). I suggest that, if you can find today's T&G you read the article since I cannot do justice to it here. For example, I learned about the taxonomy: Hauntings Human Intelligent spirits (they talk) Residuals (leftover energies condemned to repeat one small action from their lives) Poltergeists ("usually the spirits of young girls which make a racket and and can wreak havoc on property values") Inhuman Demons Incubuses Succubi Nature spirits Angles Apparently the human variety are the more "benign" while the others "can be viscious and deceitful", says "Never believe anything you hear from an inhuman haunting". Apparently other groups often get in over their heads and haveto call in his crew to "clean things up". (This is getting long; check out the T&G if you do not wish to miss the full picture.) Now I realixe some of this may sound scary but we would have the advantage that we could send Keith in first to scare the spirits! :-) So, instead of instalfests we could adapt to the times and move into deinstallfests! doug