Here are two emails from the Fedora Development list about what I was just talking about: 1. CentOS Stream as a rolling release *of a stable RHEL branch*. 2. Idea to write an ansible script to upgrade to the point release of packages that RHEL 8.x ship with. ----- Forwarded message from Adam Williamson <adamwill@fedoraproject.org> ----- Date: Wed, 09 Dec 2020 08:52:09 -0800 From: Adam Williamson <adamwill@fedoraproject.org> To: Development discussions related to Fedora <devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> Subject: Re: End of CentOS Linux: What about Fedora? Return-Path: devel-bounces@lists.fedoraproject.org Precedence: list Reply-To: Development discussions related to Fedora <devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> On Wed, 2020-12-09 at 14:07 +0100, Jaroslav Prokop wrote:
If I understood the announcement, it would be a kind of CentOS streams is rolling release or a release with short release interval. That does not make my job much easier as someone who just sets up services and leaves it running.
It's a rolling release *of a stable RHEL branch*. You're not getting radical new changes if you run CentOS Stream; you're just getting the changes you'd usually get in RHEL stable point releases (e.g. 8.1, 8.2 etc) but getting them early and as they are produced, rather than in periodic lumps). For some folks / maintenance styles this might still be an issue, but it should work OK in quite a lot of cases. It's not like you're running Rawhide. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org ----- End forwarded message ----- ----- Forwarded message from Gary Buhrmaster <gary.buhrmaster@gmail.com> ----- Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 17:08:19 +0000 From: Gary Buhrmaster <gary.buhrmaster@gmail.com> To: Development discussions related to Fedora <devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> Subject: Re: End of CentOS Linux: What about Fedora? Return-Path: devel-bounces@lists.fedoraproject.org Precedence: list Reply-To: Development discussions related to Fedora <devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 4:52 PM Adam Williamson <adamwill@fedoraproject.org> wrote:
For some folks / maintenance styles this might still be an issue, but it should work OK in quite a lot of cases. It's not like you're running Rawhide.
For those that want the equivalent of a point release, I would think they should be able to write an ansible script to upgrade to the point release of packages that EL 8.x ship with. A little more work (for someone) to maintain, but I would not be surprised if someone (or a community) decided to take it one. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org ----- End forwarded message -----
I am porting my (limited) stuff to Ubuntu 24.0.1 My ram had another failure and Ubuntu 22.04 entered into a state where I could not install or uninstall any thing. I did different things to repair this. I had no luck in fixing this. I decided to get thundebird Email working and I hit a suprise. I do not get a visible Thunderbird icon when I installed thunderbird. It also seems to be already installed (In installed the optional ëxtras¨when I installed Ubuntu). I had to fix the desktop icon by commenting out NoDisplay=true in a copy of the file thunderbird.desktop that I moved to ~/local/share/applications. I wonder if this is partly due to this being the type of application that would be supported by the subscription service.
"Kevin" == Kevin Stratton via WLUG <wlug@lists.wlug.org> writes:
I am porting my (limited) stuff to Ubuntu 24.0.1
You mean you're upgrading your system to Ubuntu 24.0.1 with 'do-release-upgrade'?
My ram had another failure and Ubuntu 22.04 entered into a state where I could not install or uninstall any thing. I did different things to repair this. I had no luck in fixing this.
Post some errors, but I suspect you need to fix your apt package database. I usually use the CLI, so if you can open an xterm, it would be helpful to get the output of the following commands sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get dist-upgrade And if you get reports of problems, you might do: sudo apt-get install --fix-broken to see if that helps.
I decided to get thundebird Email working and I hit a suprise.
So if you can't install packages, how did you get this installed?
I do not get a visible Thunderbird icon when I installed thunderbird. It also seems to be already installed (In installed the optional ëxtras¨when I installed Ubuntu).
I had to fix the desktop icon by commenting out NoDisplay=true in a copy of the file thunderbird.desktop that I moved to ~/local/share/applications.
Funky...
I wonder if this is partly due to this being the type of application that would be supported by the subscription service.
Has nothing to do with subscription service, I just suspect you have an old old old install which needs to be cleaned up. As I recall, you were upgrading from ubuntu 18.04 right? So I suspect you might have some old packages installed which are holding you back. If you can, do: dpkg-query -l > /tmp/packages.txt and then email me or the list the file as an attachement. I can look it over and give you suggestions on what you maybe remove. Good luck! John
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