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Tim Keller

30 Oct 2018 30 Oct '18

2:26 p.m.

Sad trombone for redhat or do you think IBM won't screw it up? -- I am leery of the allegiances of any politician who refers to their constituents as "consumers".

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Anderson, Charles R

30 Oct 30 Oct

3:16 p.m.

On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 10:26:59AM -0400, Tim Keller wrote:

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Sad trombone for redhat or do you think IBM won't screw it up?

I like how Maddog put it best: http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Blogs/Paw-Prints-Writings-of-the-maddog...

IBM of today is far different than the IBM that started investing in Linux. They have sacrificed the long term for short term profits. The question in my mind is does IBM realize this? Will they use Red Hat to reinvigorate? Or will they just cost cut it to death as well? https://www.cringely.com/2018/10/29/red-hat-takes-over-ibm/

Jon "maddog" Hall

2:29 p.m.

I think that this is a big enough deal that IBM knows it is "bet the farm". Did you know that IBM has over 600 engineers working on "Open Source" projects of all kinds? md On Thu, Nov 1, 2018, 06:55 Dennis Payne

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IBM of today is far different than the IBM that started investing in Linux. They have sacrificed the long term for short term profits. The question in my mind is does IBM realize this? Will they use Red Hat to reinvigorate? Or will they just cost cut it to death as well?

https://www.cringely.com/2018/10/29/red-hat-takes-over-ibm/

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Tim Keller

7:30 p.m.

I guess the question I have is this. IBM just spend 34B on redhat. Okay, now what. Is it possible that RedHat's support stuff was generating so much revenue that IBM thinks it can simply sit back and let it print money? While that's possible, I don't think RedHat has made 34B in it's entire existence. Thusly, there will be a point where the people who push the heaps of money around at IBM go "You know, we spent 34B on this thing, how are we going to get some ROI out of this?" My interactions with AIX and it's adoption of RPM as a method of software installation makes me think that possibly IBM sees a transition plan where AIX gets supplanted with Linux over time. Again, this is just conjecture. My fears are that those who care about FOSS in IBM and RedHat will be pushed aside by those in IBM who'll want a short term return on investment that makes the shareholders happy. Tim. On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 10:30 AM Jon "maddog" Hall wrote:

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I think that this is a big enough deal that IBM knows it is "bet the farm".

Did you know that IBM has over 600 engineers working on "Open Source" projects of all kinds?

md

On Thu, Nov 1, 2018, 06:55 Dennis Payne
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IBM of today is far different than the IBM that started investing in Linux. They have sacrificed the long term for short term profits. The question in my mind is does IBM realize this? Will they use Red Hat to reinvigorate? Or will they just cost cut it to death as well?

https://www.cringely.com/2018/10/29/red-hat-takes-over-ibm/

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