Generic VGA Driver (or other VGA driver)
Dear WLUG Members, Below is a question that I posted on Ask Ubuntu 8 days ago. I have received no replies, so I am now asking whether any of you might be able to help. BTW, in addition to the Diamond Stealth card, I also have a PCI Mach64 VGA card made by ATI and a PCI VGA card made by STB Systems. The STB one has a big chip made by S3 and a PROM (I think) labeled "NITRO 3D/GX EDO 1.0". Those have essentially the same problem. ************** I have added to my system a very old Diamond Stealth PCI VGA video card. That card can talk to the BIOS and display correctly on a VGA monitor (provided that I tell the BIOS that my primary graphics card is PCI-E not PCI), but it does not work in Ubuntu 18.04 LTS. I think I need a generic VGA driver. Here is some info from lshw: *-display UNCLAIMED description: VGA compatible controller product: 2000PV [Stingray] vendor: ARK Logic Inc physical id: 5 bus info: pci@0000:03:05.0 version: 00 width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: vga_controller configuration: latency=0 resources: memory:fdc00000-fdffffff memory:febf0000-febfffff Also, here is what happens when I try to install fglrx: sudo apt-get install fglrx Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package fglrx I'd appreciate any help or suggestions. Thanks. (P.S. I think I have to set the BIOS to PCI-E because when I sent it to PCI it finds the built-in video port on my AMD CPU.)
"gmcaplan---" == gmcaplan--- via WLUG <wlug@lists.wlug.org> writes:
gmcaplan---> Below is a question that I posted on Ask Ubuntu 8 days ago. gmcaplan---> I have received no replies, so I am now asking whether any of you might gmcaplan---> be able to help. Can I tell you to just go and buy a cheap PCIe graphics card made in the last 10 years? *grin* gmcaplan---> BTW, in addition to the Diamond Stealth card, I also have a PCI Mach64 gmcaplan---> VGA card made by ATI and a PCI VGA card made by STB Systems. The STB one gmcaplan---> has a big chip made by S3 and a PROM (I think) labeled "NITRO 3D/GX EDO gmcaplan---> 1.0". Those have essentially the same problem. All those cards are really stupid old, and the support has probably been dropped. Have you done a 'lspci -v' and then a the output of 'dmesg' after a clean reboot? gmcaplan---> I have added to my system a very old Diamond Stealth PCI gmcaplan---> VGA video card. That card can talk to the BIOS and gmcaplan---> display correctly on a VGA monitor (provided that I tell gmcaplan---> the BIOS that my primary graphics card is PCI-E not PCI), gmcaplan---> but it does not work in Ubuntu 18.04 LTS. I think I need gmcaplan---> a generic VGA driver. Here is some info from lshw: gmcaplan---> *-display UNCLAIMED description: VGA compatible controller gmcaplan---> product: 2000PV [Stingray] gmcaplan---> vendor: ARK Logic Inc gmcaplan---> physical id: 5 gmcaplan---> bus info: pci@0000:03:05.0 gmcaplan---> version: 00 gmcaplan---> width: 32 bits gmcaplan---> clock: 33MHz gmcaplan---> capabilities: vga_controller gmcaplan---> configuration: latency=0 gmcaplan---> resources: memory:fdc00000-fdffffff memory:febf0000-febfffff gmcaplan---> Also, here is what happens when I try to install fglrx: gmcaplan---> sudo apt-get install fglrx gmcaplan---> Reading package lists... Done gmcaplan---> Building dependency tree gmcaplan---> Reading state information... Done gmcaplan---> E: Unable to locate package fglrx gmcaplan---> I'd appreciate any help or suggestions. For fglrx, you might need to enable more repositories, especially for old hardware like this. Can you please post the 'lspci' output, and your dmesg output as well. gmcaplan---> (P.S. I think I have to set the BIOS to PCI-E because when I sent it to gmcaplan---> PCI it finds the built-in video port on my AMD CPU.) The next thing I would do is try to boot from an older liveCD and see if it can work with that display as well. But honestly, just get a new(er) card that is made in the past 10 years. :-) John
John Stoffel via WLUG <wlug@lists.wlug.org> writes:
Can I tell you to just go and buy a cheap PCIe graphics card made in the last 10 years? *grin*
Your advice may be good, but I don't like your attitude. One of the things I like about Linux is that you are not forced to buy the latest whiz-bang computer. It runs just fine on old hardware. Getting it working is half the fun. See "Dumpster Diving for Linux" http://www.free-comp-shop.com/none/dumpster.html --- Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug@lists.wlug.org> writes:
The meeting is going to be at our usual virtual hang out.. https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA @7pm.
I hope to be there.
I don't have a topic yet, I suspect something natural will emerge.
I don't have a suitable presentation, but I have written something about my latest Linux project. Maybe it will be a topic. See "How can a wireless router be added to a wired netork?" http://www.free-comp-shop.com/none/wireless.html Your advice is welcome and maybe useful. A few years ago one of the WLUG memebers (Frank Sweetser?) saved my bacon after my Idiot Service Provider suddenly decided it would no longer be convenient for them to continue running a secondary name server for me. They didn't even reduce my bill by the amount they had been charging for that service. The price remained the same, but now it was for extra email addresses that I had not requested and did not need. A few years later they quit providing any mailboxes at all. I think they would really rather just charge me for sending the invoice. To be fair, that seems to be hard for them. Frank (?) told me about Hurricane Electric, who run a secondary name server for free just for good will and advertising. They are good people, this plug is all I have ever done for them. https://dns.he.net/ -- Keith
"Keith" == Keith Wright via WLUG <wlug@lists.wlug.org> writes:
Keith> John Stoffel via WLUG <wlug@lists.wlug.org> writes:
Can I tell you to just go and buy a cheap PCIe graphics card made in the last 10 years? *grin*
Keith> Your advice may be good, but I don't like your attitude. One Keith> of the things I like about Linux is that you are not forced to Keith> buy the latest whiz-bang computer. It runs just fine on old Keith> hardware. Getting it working is half the fun. Sure! I agree that getting it working is half the fun. I've been planning on upgrading my main machine since it's 12 years old now (AMD Phenom II X4 945 running at 800-3000Mhz) but I'd have to find some solution to replace my old Cyclades PCI 8 port serial card that I have in the system. PCIe to PCI adaptor? New PCIe 4 port serial card? USB to Serial hanging off the back? But sometimes, if you go dumpster diving for old hardware, then you're going to be forced to stay with old distributions, because people won't support the older stuff past a certain point. I'm talking core developers here. Especially for older graphics cards. It just gets too painful as the state of the art has changed. Heck, I ran a Matrox G200 card for years! Loved that card, ran great. But eventually it wasn't supported and it was so old and slow it wasn't worth it. Keith> See "Dumpster Diving for Linux" Keith> http://www.free-comp-shop.com/none/dumpster.html Great resource! But realize you're going to be running older distributions. And with the move to https and updated SSL requirements, it's going to be harder to use those older systems, unless you can work through a proxy that will encrypt for you. Keith> Tim Keller via WLUG <wlug@lists.wlug.org> writes:
The meeting is going to be at our usual virtual hang out.. https://meet.jit.si/WlugMA @7pm.
Keith> I hope to be there.
I don't have a topic yet, I suspect something natural will emerge.
Keith> I don't have a suitable presentation, but I have written something Keith> about my latest Linux project. Maybe it will be a topic. Keith> See "How can a wireless router be added to a wired netork?" Keith> http://www.free-comp-shop.com/none/wireless.html Keith> Your advice is welcome and maybe useful. A few years ago one Keith> of the WLUG memebers (Frank Sweetser?) saved my bacon after Keith> my Idiot Service Provider suddenly decided it would no longer Keith> be convenient for them to continue running a secondary name Keith> server for me. They didn't even reduce my bill by the amount Keith> they had been charging for that service. The price remained Keith> the same, but now it was for extra email addresses that I had not Keith> requested and did not need. Keith> A few years later they quit providing any mailboxes at all. Keith> I think they would really rather just charge me for sending the Keith> invoice. To be fair, that seems to be hard for them. Keith> Frank (?) told me about Hurricane Electric, who run a secondary Keith> name server for free just for good will and advertising. Keith> They are good people, this plug is all I have ever done for them. Keith> https://dns.he.net/ Keith> -- Keith Keith> _______________________________________________ Keith> WLUG mailing list -- wlug@lists.wlug.org Keith> To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave@lists.wlug.org Keith> Create Account: https://wlug.mailman3.com/accounts/signup/ Keith> Change Settings: https://wlug.mailman3.com/postorius/lists/wlug.lists.wlug.org/ Keith> Web Forum/Archive: https://wlug.mailman3.com/hyperkitty/list/wlug@lists.wlug.org/message/M5DNGH...
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