Agreed on Charter being the only choice for Woostuh, where I lived and worked through the glorious 1980s and again briefly 2006-06 and 2010.  

That wottuh problem under Southbridge Street is due primarily to runoff from the hills above it PLUS the Blackstone River tributary which they built the street and 290 over back when.  

Regards from Saint Albans Bay, VT

Dave


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   1. OT: Looking for ISP (Richard Klein)
   2. Re: OT: Looking for ISP (dglaser@glaserresearch.net)
   3. Re: OT: Looking for ISP (Richard Klein)
   4. Re: OT: Looking for ISP (Chuck Anderson)
   5. Re: OT: Looking for ISP (JeffA Maillists)
   6. Re: OT: Looking for ISP (E Johnson)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 16:44:23 -0400
From: Richard Klein <rich@richardklein.org>
Subject: [Wlug] OT: Looking for ISP
To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug@mail.wlug.org>
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I'm moving back to Worcester after 5-ish years.  I used speakeasy for DSL
when I lived near Indian Lake, but they aren't the same company anymore,
and the new place is just off Hope Ave, by the cemeteries, Hadwen Park, and
the Auburn line.  Can anyone recommend a good ISP out that way, or a good
website to find an ISP?

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Thanks!
Rich
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Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 17:16:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: "dglaser@glaserresearch.net" <dglaser@glaserresearch.net>
Subject: Re: [Wlug] OT: Looking for ISP
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I live in the same general area (Malvern Rd) and your choice is either Verizon
DSL or Charter Cable.  I used Verizon DSL and found it to be really SLOOWWWW.
 The switching office is too far away for fast speeds.  I use charter and I get
30 mb download.  It is more reliable than Verizon.  The phone trunk lines run
under southbridge street and there is a severe water problem along that route.
 One time my phone and dsl was out for three days.
-David

On May 5, 2014 at 4:44 PM Richard Klein <rich@richardklein.org> wrote:

>  I'm moving back to Worcester after 5-ish years.  I used speakeasy for DSL
> when I lived near Indian Lake, but they aren't the same company anymore, and
> the new place is just off Hope Ave, by the cemeteries, Hadwen Park, and the
> Auburn line.  Can anyone recommend a good ISP out that way, or a good website
> to find an ISP?
>
>  --
>  Thanks!
>  Rich
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Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 17:18:44 -0400
From: Richard Klein <rich@richardklein.org>
Subject: Re: [Wlug] OT: Looking for ISP
To: "dglaser@glaserresearch.net" <dglaser@glaserresearch.net>,
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Thanks David!  Do you know anything about data caps for Charter?


On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 5:16 PM, dglaser@glaserresearch.net <
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>   I live in the same general area (Malvern Rd) and your choice is either
> Verizon DSL or Charter Cable.  I used Verizon DSL and found it to be really
> SLOOWWWW.  The switching office is too far away for fast speeds.  I use
> charter and I get 30 mb download.  It is more reliable than Verizon.  The
> phone trunk lines run under southbridge street and there is a severe water
> problem along that route.  One time my phone and dsl was out for three
> days.
>  -David
>
> On May 5, 2014 at 4:44 PM Richard Klein <rich@richardklein.org> wrote:
>
>  I'm moving back to Worcester after 5-ish years.  I used speakeasy for DSL
> when I lived near Indian Lake, but they aren't the same company anymore,
> and the new place is just off Hope Ave, by the cemeteries, Hadwen Park, and
> the Auburn line.  Can anyone recommend a good ISP out that way, or a good
> website to find an ISP?
>
>  --
>  Thanks!
>  Rich
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Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 17:23:42 -0400
From: Chuck Anderson <cra@WPI.EDU>
Subject: Re: [Wlug] OT: Looking for ISP
To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug@mail.wlug.org>
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Don't forget to fix bufferbloat.  A lot of complaints people have with
ISPs is probably due to high latencies under load caused by
bufferbloat.  You can fix bufferbloat by running either CeroWrt or a
"Barrier Breaker" development release of OpenWrt.  Check here to see
if you have bufferbloat and how to fix it:

http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/cerowrt/wiki/Quick_Test_for_Bufferbloat

On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 05:16:34PM -0400, dglaser@glaserresearch.net wrote:
> I live in the same general area (Malvern Rd) and your choice is either Verizon
> DSL or Charter Cable.  I used Verizon DSL and found it to be really SLOOWWWW.
>  The switching office is too far away for fast speeds.  I use charter and I get
> 30 mb download.  It is more reliable than Verizon.  The phone trunk lines run
> under southbridge street and there is a severe water problem along that route.
>  One time my phone and dsl was out for three days.
> -David
>
> On May 5, 2014 at 4:44 PM Richard Klein <rich@richardklein.org> wrote:
>
> >  I'm moving back to Worcester after 5-ish years.  I used speakeasy for DSL
> > when I lived near Indian Lake, but they aren't the same company anymore, and
> > the new place is just off Hope Ave, by the cemeteries, Hadwen Park, and the
> > Auburn line.  Can anyone recommend a good ISP out that way, or a good website
> > to find an ISP?


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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 17:38:37 -0400
From: JeffA Maillists <jeffa.maillists@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Wlug] OT: Looking for ISP
To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug@mail.wlug.org>
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  When I recently moved back to Worc, the options were: DSL or Cable
internet.

  DSL wasn't an option for me (IMHO), because the speed was predicted to be
"as high as" 3Mbps on my street, so I reluctantly went with cable
internet.  The only cable provider in the city is Charter.

  It's no match for the FiOS internet I had in Marlborough, but it's better
than DSL.

  Charter's advertised speed is 30Mbps, but I occasionally see upwards of
40Mbps.  Upload is capped at 4.2Mbps.

Jeff
On May 5, 2014 4:46 PM, "Richard Klein" <rich@richardklein.org> wrote:

> I'm moving back to Worcester after 5-ish years.  I used speakeasy for DSL
> when I lived near Indian Lake, but they aren't the same company anymore,
> and the new place is just off Hope Ave, by the cemeteries, Hadwen Park, and
> the Auburn line.  Can anyone recommend a good ISP out that way, or a good
> website to find an ISP?
>
> --
> Thanks!
> Rich
>
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Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 17:48:51 -0400
From: E Johnson <iris.gates@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Wlug] OT: Looking for ISP
To: Worcester Linux Users Group <wlug@mail.wlug.org>
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Charter is probably the only viable option.

Depending on what you need (TV or not? Phone or not? Or just internet), you
can probably get a promotion with a price that will remain fixed for 1-2
years. Whether or not you need a "package" or only internet, ask the
customer service (sales) Rep to find you a promotion.

I'm paying 54 now for only internet, which can run 30 mb down and I think 5
up. This is up from a one-year promo for which I was paying 44. When I
check the download speeds, it usually comes down at around 35 mb.

Internet analysis test (the Netalyzer at USC Berkley I think) is very
comprehensive and has been giving good reports. Once Charter got some line
issues fixed in the neighborhood about 2 years ago, the Netalyzer tests
come out very good. The only complaint that Netalyzer notices is that the
buffer is somewhat too big, but usually things work okay, even in
packet-sensitive applications such as Skype. But maybe that is my router or
something. Maybe the modem (which I own).

Welcome back to Woo.

Liz J


On 5 May 2014 16:44, Richard Klein <rich@richardklein.org> wrote:

> I'm moving back to Worcester after 5-ish years.  I used speakeasy for DSL
> when I lived near Indian Lake, but they aren't the same company anymore,
> and the new place is just off Hope Ave, by the cemeteries, Hadwen Park, and
> the Auburn line.  Can anyone recommend a good ISP out that way, or a good
> website to find an ISP?
>
> --
> Thanks!
> Rich
>
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