Pardon me or the universe:

I wrote that previously... 

Months ago or more? Terrible rant.

I don't know how it got sent (again?) today, I was in bed just now .. asleep 

On Wed, Jul 16, 2025, 8:13 AM Doug Mildram via WLUG <wlug@lists.wlug.org> wrote:

doug> I  was gonna reply, but my desktop Linux rebooted - oops my bad..Drafts to the rescue.

Guess why my desktop rebooted? I was messing around trying to peek at Quit options

........musta highlighted Shut Down.   I caused my own black screen of reboot/death!  Ha.

But I had Mint/etc updates waiting. I ALWAYS have them waiting. (except just now/rebooted).

Gory detail/thoughts on your Q?:

I can't think of a reason to fea of your current favored Choice2 below:

Choice1:

  "reboot required" -->  shut down now.  Fire up tomorrow. 

OS patches ...mmm, nothing eye catching in the list that pops up

on GUI/Mint/MATE on behalf of UpdateManager (not SoftwareManager),

the bugger that pesters me, adds popups 1x/day or such...

,,,As you sneak-away/ponder "ready to reboot/shutdown?"

 you wonder when you feel like peeking at the update list.

Choice2, (via any method ...click,allow,bless your imminent death, 

 via anything like   GUI choice Quit->Shut Down 

which probably invokes something like "shutdown --?" couple flags like

-h
           The same as --poweroff, but does not override the action to
           take if it is "halt". E.g.  shutdown --reboot -h means
           "poweroff", but shutdown --halt -h means "halt".

 Oh, gory!   Anyways, the answer seems (always?) dependent on time/patience.

Pardon the tangent now, if you're here, I'm amazed:

 "poweroff" however that really works with "shutdown" or other trick,

 might vary....... motherboard/etc might get a signal and take a real nap..

If you have hard disks, not SD, beware a days-long sleep ...sticky platter shaft/bearing...

(choice3) If I was feeing Totally Watchful,  I'd reboot, watch...Log In, ...then  Quit.

Inevitably=->    "Log In", and boring.....see what Update Manager sees in its playpen.

Debates,topics, questions could easily continue if interesting!

---the bottom line might be

what's the processes(session, service?) of greatest interest for you on your (desktop)?

I leave/let a 2010 Dell Opti w Mint 20.1  sleep on its own, 

SanDisk HD/root good since 2018/2019?. 500gb/disk1 (disk2  for "your data" helps for long life).

 CPU Fans still orig and quiet, a miracle!  --doug

On Sat, Apr 5, 2025 at 4:37 PM The Hammer via WLUG <wlug@lists.wlug.org> wrote:

I usually run any updates on my Linux machine after I'm done using the
machine for the day.

Sometimes the update the system says "reboot required" At that point I
close the active window.  Hit restart, let the machine start up, reboot,
and then I sign in again before shutting down for the night.

My question is: can I instead just shut down and wait until the next day
to start up the computer?

(I've read on line that I need a "proper" shut down.  With all the text
flashing at hyper speed I wonder if I do shut down or even start up
properly)

Ron

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