VPN services are a good tool for privacy.  However, they they still rely 
 on the trust in the ownership/VPN service country's laws and policies.  
 A VPN service is effectively a 'man in the middle'.
 
 
 On 12/8/2023 3:13 AM, Robert Schwein via WLUG wrote:
 >
 > You've pretty much hit the high points Chuck.  From my own experience 
 > when going overseas if I'm able to VPN to the country I'm going to, 
 > the rental car reservation is considerably less in cost to reserve 
 > that car than if I reserved it from state side. I'm assuming  there is 
 > a difference between a poor native and a rich American.
 >
 > Bob
 >
 > On 12/8/2023 12:56 AM, Chuck Anderson via WLUG wrote:
 >> On Thu, Dec 07, 2023 at 09:08:00PM -0500, Doug Mildram via WLUG wrote:
 >>> So, maybe or maybe not, that's the kind of VPN I suspect they're selling,
 >>> but I don't see the value for normal folks....or maybe anyone. (educate
 >>> me!)
 >>> Unless their hosted-server-world-route network security is a win.
 >>> Thanks for listening, and my thursday's look better than usual this month,
 >>> so hoping for WLUG virtually dec 14.  -doug
 >> Yes.  Those "modern" VPNs are used for many reasons.  Here are a couple:
 >>
 >> - To appear to servers/services that you are physically located in a
 >>    different geographical area.  This can help you bypass
 >>    geographically restricted content, such as watching sports programs
 >>    that content owners don't want you to see based on where you live
 >>    (local sports broadcast blackouts).  Or trick hotels into giving you
 >>    a better price--yes, hotels can hike the rates they present to you
 >>    if they think you are nearby--assuming you need last-minute
 >>    accomodations while you are away on vacation.
 >>
 >> - To hide your real IP address from servers and/or hide your browsing
 >>    from intermediaries (your ISP for example) for privacy.  This could
 >>    be so you can avoid being tracked and having your browsing habits
 >>    sold to advertisers (something your ISP can easily do--SSL does not
 >>    hide DNS queries although that is changing with the availability of
 >>    DNS-over-HTTPS and similar), to hide from authorities/copyright
 >>    enforcers, or for life-and-death reasons (hide from unfriendly
 >>    governments.)
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