I use a wireguard VPN on my phone anytime I leave my house, mainly for ad blocking. I run pi-hole at home to block ads network wide, and when I leave wifi, my phone automatically joins the VPN at home and uses the same pi-hole servers for DNS. Internet traffic is still directly through my carrier (so split tunnel) but my DNS is hidden from them and ad free!

-thea

On Sat, Dec 9, 2023, at 03:54, Jon "maddog" Hall via WLUG wrote:
>However, they still rely on the trust in the ownership/VPN service country's laws and policies.
>A VPN service is effectively a 'man in the middle'.
This is why everyone should train their mother to offer a secure ISP/VPN service.
"Mom's VPN:  Do you trust your Mom?"
md

On Fri, Dec 8, 2023 at 11:44 AM Kevin Stratton via WLUG <wlug@lists.wlug.org> wrote:
VPN services are a good tool for privacy.  However, they they still rely
on the trust in the ownership/VPN service country's laws and policies. 
A VPN service is effectively a 'man in the middle'.


On 12/8/2023 3:13 AM, Robert Schwein via WLUG wrote:
>
> You've pretty much hit the high points Chuck.  From my own experience
> when going overseas if I'm able to VPN to the country I'm going to,
> the rental car reservation is considerably less in cost to reserve
> that car than if I reserved it from state side. I'm assuming  there is
> a difference between a poor native and a rich American.
>
> Bob
>
> On 12/8/2023 12:56 AM, Chuck Anderson via WLUG wrote:
>> On Thu, Dec 07, 2023 at 09:08:00PM -0500, Doug Mildram via WLUG wrote:
>>> So, maybe or maybe not, that's the kind of VPN I suspect they're selling,
>>> but I don't see the value for normal folks....or maybe anyone. (educate
>>> me!)
>>> Unless their hosted-server-world-route network security is a win.
>>> Thanks for listening, and my thursday's look better than usual this month,
>>> so hoping for WLUG virtually dec 14.  -doug
>> Yes.  Those "modern" VPNs are used for many reasons.  Here are a couple:
>>
>> - To appear to servers/services that you are physically located in a
>>    different geographical area.  This can help you bypass
>>    geographically restricted content, such as watching sports programs
>>    that content owners don't want you to see based on where you live
>>    (local sports broadcast blackouts).  Or trick hotels into giving you
>>    a better price--yes, hotels can hike the rates they present to you
>>    if they think you are nearby--assuming you need last-minute
>>    accomodations while you are away on vacation.
>>
>> - To hide your real IP address from servers and/or hide your browsing
>>    from intermediaries (your ISP for example) for privacy.  This could
>>    be so you can avoid being tracked and having your browsing habits
>>    sold to advertisers (something your ISP can easily do--SSL does not
>>    hide DNS queries although that is changing with the availability of
>>    DNS-over-HTTPS and similar), to hide from authorities/copyright
>>    enforcers, or for life-and-death reasons (hide from unfriendly
>>    governments.)
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